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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe world class idiot, Donald J Trump, has made many mistakes but one of the worst ones he ever made
was fucking with the New York Times right from the very start and thinking there wouldn't be consequences to pay. What a fucking dope!
Thank you, New York Times!!
Midnight Writer
(21,845 posts)MarcA
(2,195 posts)He has crossed so many people, I'm sure many are working on retaliation right now. You can't screw over so many people, for so long and not have it come back and smack you in the ass. He should have gotten a clue with Michael Cohen, his niece Mary, John Bolton and so many more. He really is a slow learner.
johnnyfins
(866 posts)I'd bet the farm that there's so many people with so much bad shit on him. Time to come forward and tell your stories! Speak YOUR truth!!!
TheBlackAdder
(28,252 posts).
Just wait until some of Trump's people rat them out for that ACB pick, which is not going over very well.
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madaboutharry
(40,245 posts)He thinks hes smarter than everyone else.
Stuart G
(38,458 posts)Mr. Trump thought that he could get away with everything.....
Perhaps he knows now, that he can get away with very little.....and as other have said and
said in the Original Post
.................YOU DON'T FUCK WITH THE NEW YORK TIMES.........................
Patterson
(1,534 posts)mwooldri
(10,303 posts)Just thinking...
homegirl
(1,436 posts)with people who buy printers ink by the railroad tanker.
"Power of the press belongs to those who own one." -- H.L. Menken
RussBLib
(9,057 posts)He could have lived a raucous personal life under the radar, all the hookers he wanted, all the blow, all of it, but he wanted to be president. After all, how hard could it be? A black guy made it. (That's Trump talking, not me)
I would like to think that America is made of stronger stuff than Donnie Jackass Trump.
njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)oldtime dfl_er
(6,931 posts)running for President! If his ego and Obama hate hadn't gotten the better of him he'd still be sitting on his golden toilet in Trump Tower, probably with a new younger wife.
dchill
(38,610 posts)tblue37
(65,528 posts)The Magistrate
(95,264 posts)Years ago I knew some people who dealt marijuana for years. When they stepped up to cocaine they didn't last two weeks....
moonscape
(4,676 posts)usual explanations) why he would do this. In the beginning I thought: nobody could be stupid enough not to realize the spotlight and how everything, every thing, every.thing, comes out.
But then we learned just how totally bankrupt he was not just morally and financially, but cranially too.
He didn't expect to win. Okay. But stuff like this comes out during the race as well.
Midnight Writer
(21,845 posts)He supposedly talked to Kasich, offered him VP if he would do all the heavy lifting. Trump would be the figurehead, attend official events, State Dinners, stuff like that. Kasich would actually run the Office.
He thought he was going to be American Royalty.
moonscape
(4,676 posts)Is that what he was expecting from Pence as well you think?
Midnight Writer
(21,845 posts)I think Pence was "pushed" on Trump, who was desperate for a running mate. Nobody was interested. Trump didn't care anymore about the name of the VP than the name of his Supreme Court nominees. Somebody hands him a list, and he throws a dart at it.
The question is why Pence? He was kind of picked out of left field. What is it about Pence that appealed to this cabal?
moonscape
(4,676 posts)which he is. Acceptable to the right with experience. And at the time he was definitely desperate enough to stay in public life to accept. He was going to lose his senate seat if I recall.
Sympthsical
(9,182 posts)I think its as simple as that. Trumps personal life probably gave no minor amount of them pause. Throw Pence in there, and it probably assuaged a lot of doubts, or at least gave a decent enough rationalization to pull the lever.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)Pictures of him with sexually with minors? Homosexuality? Money taken?
Whatever it is, I have long believed it is why he was chosen....aside from his false piety.
The answer to this needs to be looked into and I believe if Pence was to be fully investigated (along with McConnell and many more) the answers would be shocking.
tblue37
(65,528 posts)faked a plane problem to arrange a meeting with Pence, whose rabid rant against the Clinton's won Trump over.
StClone
(11,692 posts)Is he did it to raise his pay and get back at NBC as his TV paydays were waning (maybe the only honest money he ever made) and never expected to win the Presidency. Of course Idiocracy is a real thing in the good old greatest country on Earth. We are dealing with the ramifications of President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho dumber more crooked twin.
moonscape
(4,676 posts)since it was an actually profitable gig that fed his ego at the same time.
Being president is profitable for him too, and throw in his mastubatory rallies, its not far removed from The Apprentice, except the awkward legally-dangerous spotlight of course.
regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)Without the "pee tape," Putin could never have forced him to run. You know Trump never wanted to be president, but running was his only way out of the consequences. Then, once he was in power, he decided he liked that he had even more adulation.
Chemisse
(30,824 posts)He could have flown just under the radar for the rest of his life. Now everyone in the world has intimate knowledge of his crimes.
ecstatic
(32,782 posts)racketeering, tax evasion, etc were ignored. NYC is my hometown, but they have to make this right. If they don't have him in the back of a paddy wagon come 1/21/21, I will be forever disappointed.
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,096 posts)captain queeg
(10,287 posts)He never thought hed win. He should have just said he was too rich and busy to accept it, but he couldnt back down. Then he ran the presidency like one of his crooked other businesses and made many more enemies that hed ever had before. Its finally coming home to roost. Even getting Pence to pardon him isnt going to clear all the charges that are coming. His fan club will stick by him for awhile but they arent enough to protect him.
Maybe some good will come of this and significant changes made to the tax code. That would be great if all his supporters of his ongoing grifting found themselves suffering a huge increase in taxes. Its certainly due time.
pwb
(11,308 posts)Cable news just shakes their heads yes and wonder about everything. Yes Thank you New York Times.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Print Media needs to make its way BACK across this nation after this story.
GoCubsGo
(32,100 posts)If he hadn't fucked over his niece, Mary, and her family, they might not have ever gotten those boxes and boxes of financial records she gave them.
BlueWavePsych
(2,641 posts)CincyDem
(6,418 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)agingdem
(7,874 posts)however on this Yom Kippur in the year 5781 the New York Times is now on the long road to atonement and redemption...the NYT, along with every other media outlet, took a known depraved sexual predator, a malignant narcissistic sociopath and legitimized him and sold him as a viable candidate all because they hated the Clintons...our asshole media has a lot to answer for...
Blue Owl
(50,567 posts)n/t
RestoreAmerica2020
(3,439 posts)...pendejo [it's over you fucking moron,! What? just quoting Tillerson ok he allegedly said "fucking" ]
fierywoman
(7,706 posts)3catwoman3
(24,109 posts)Im guessing whatever you just said was not included in my high school Spanish over 50 years ago.
fierywoman
(7,706 posts)(I learned it from playing in an orchestra in Mexico City);
I *think* this is what it means:
pinche: a scullery maid type worker, the lowest of the low work.
pendejo: literally (I believe): a pubic hair. (ahhh ... but you must take that in metaphoric context of the Mexican culture: what's important is the penis, the pubic hair here is pretending to be important because it's next to the penis, but we all know what's really important. Here, Michael Cohen in the day was a sort of pendejo.)
cabron: old (big) goat.
3catwoman3
(24,109 posts)...gracias -
fierywoman
(7,706 posts)Beacool
(30,254 posts)"Never argue with a man who buys ink by the barrel.
SunSeeker
(51,797 posts)The NYT said they can't release the documents because they need to protect their source. Apparently the images of the documents would show where they came from.
My guess is they are Bates numbered and that numbering system reveals the entity that was holding them. It also narrows the group of individuals who had access to them and thus could have leaked them to the NYT. So it is quite probable their image literally endangers the source.
Ilsa
(61,712 posts)So, it wasn't from a judge's order!
I was thinking someone, somewhere, needed to take a chance and do this. It was the right thing to do.
fierywoman
(7,706 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(11,675 posts)It ranks up there with running for President, fucking over his relatives, and thinking he could con Bob Woodward.
thenelm1
(859 posts)Yes, he had a big media presence in NYC, but he was also pretty much seen as an ongoing joke.
He was always mentioned in the gossip press, but putting himself under the scrutiny of the national political press - that is a horse of a very different color. It took them time to get all their ducks in a row, but it seems the chickens are coming home to roost. There is blood in the water. And I suspect there are more skeletons in that closet than we even think or know. Or at least it appears that way with the latest stories. The next month or so will tell how far that goes. Fingers crossed.
muntrv
(14,505 posts)UpInArms
(51,291 posts)Never fight with someone who buys their ink by the barrel ?
GusBob
(7,286 posts)How soon we forget
These types of posts make me smile
The NYTIMES and the Wash Post and Bob Woodward will all start attacking Biden and Harris about 18 months in and DUERS will be screaming bloody murder
How soon we forget indeed