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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNew Republican Talking point: "Obama is a not personable with our foreign leaders."
WTF. What is this need to have our leaders cosy cosy with each other? I always hated when Bush and even Clinton would express this "special friendship" with England. No...we don't have a special friendship. We have business arangements with these countries.
This all started with Scarborough, this morning for me and Guilianni just reiterated this same claim today. I am tired fo this.
It's this "special friendship" that gets our hands dirtied in war...Iraq comes to mind. Obama is "detached," that's what I want. I want my leader detached and able to look at a situation with reason and not some emotional obligation to another leader. What are these fuck heads talking about.
Then they are ranting over "small bump in the road"---they love taking Obama out of context and comparing it to Romney's statement. Obama is talking about the development of democracy in the world and they are saying Obama is suggesting the death of the ambassador is the small bump in the road. What kind of comparison is this? And not a single commentator denied this misrepresentation. Sure, John Mitchum slightly implied it---but then equated it, incorrectly I might add, to Romney's 47% comment. Romney was not taken out of context. Romney was talking about 47% of the people. Obama is talking entirely about Arab Spring and not the attacks on our ambassadors.
Good Lord.....and Mika---Mika---weak. She stood up for The View, but because she obviously doesn't know the news she late that shit slide, and Mika knows better. John Mitchum knows better but he wanted to be invited back on Joe's show. What is the purpose of Barnacle? And that other kid---Willie Geise is like Scarborough's lap dog. What a waste....what a damn waste.
Not to mention the bullshit comments this morning that Obama won't do tough television like Joe Scarborough. Why would he waste his time on that guy? He has done interviews for Olbermann and Maddow. Scarborough feeling slighted also pisses me off. He runs on talking points like it's worthwhile.
Scarborough doesn't care about the betterment of this nation--he knows that Romney is a worthless piece of shit. However, he only cares about his party winning.
What the hell is Romney even talking about in this speech at the Global Initiative (I'm listening to it as I type this up)? What a shitty speaker!
renegade000
(2,301 posts)...and Romney will be?
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)he doesn't give back rubs or barf in their laps.
valerief
(53,235 posts)vaberella
(24,634 posts)Chris Matthews snuffing Reince Priebus.
bigtree
(85,999 posts)vaberella
(24,634 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Remember the Queen even hugged Michelle?
This Rovian idea of use their strengths against them is obviously not bullet proof. It leads Republicans into some pretty stupid territory.
okieinpain
(9,397 posts)detached to protect american interest.
tanyev
(42,573 posts)Have they forgotten how Romney's Insult The World Tour two months ago went over like a lead balloon?
porphyrian
(18,530 posts)Foreign leaders seem to disagree with the republican assessment on this.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Meacham did seem to be a bit uncomfortable with this line of talk. Pulitzer might want his prize back from him...
Botany
(70,522 posts)I heard Joe S. for a few minutes and he said:
Obama is uncomfortable in a crowed room.
His lack of skill in international politics makes him uncomfortable around other leaders.
Obama does not golf w/ democratic congressional members because he is socially awkward.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Pretty amusing.
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)He's not giving Angela Merkel an unwanted shoulder massage a la Dumbya, so obviously, she hates him. If Obama was "cozy" with any of these leaders, they'd criticize that, too. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. It doesn't matter what the President does. These assholes will find fault with it--even if he does the same exact goddamn things they and Dumbya did.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,501 posts)Angela Merkel got a good back rub from the President of the US? Has he even offered Cristina Kirchner a good foot rub? I don't think so.
Frances
(8,545 posts)ridiculing him, including the Conservative leadership, which is normally pro-Republicans?
gollygee
(22,336 posts)The Romney traveling gaffe-athon from earlier would make me worry about him in that capacity. What countries did he get nasty with? The UK, Russia, hmm can't remember everything anymore.
Obama always comes across and kind and caring and shows empathy. I feel much more comfortable with the idea of him speaking to foreign leaders than Romney.
Frances
(8,545 posts)It was only weeks ago that the mayor of London ridiculed Romney in front of a crowd of thousands in England, who all joined in the ridicule.
I don't think any politician has ever had such a disastrous foreign trip to friendly countries as Romney did only a few weeks ago.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,415 posts)'nuff said.
BTW are they pulling stuff out of their posteriors or are there world leaders (other than Netanyahu) complaining about this? My guess is the former rather than the latter but that's just par for the course. If he were spending too much time with world leaders, esp. European ones, they'd just be pointing to that as (more) proof that he's trying to turn the US into Europe (as if that would necessarily be a horrible thing.....)
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)And no one called BS on that. Not a peep from Joe's chorus.
KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)...as though the President campaigned for the Islamic Brotherhood. More specific, it's Bishop Willard's inner Orly speaking...just connect them dots (wink wink nod nod)
The rushpublicans are going crazy that they've lost two issues they used to think they owned...foreign policy and the military. They are desperate to show that this President is weak in what is obviously a strength and hope to neutralize their own lame candidate's lack of any foreign knowledge other than the exchange rates in Zurich, Freeport and other tax havens.
Mittens continues to run for the rushpublican nomination...campaigning inside the bubble...
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,415 posts)of Arab countries and specifically, the "Arab Spring" is that their guy, GWB, spent a fairly significant portion of his Presidency (after 9/11) calling for freedom and democracy in the ME, claiming, among other things that democratic countries would be less likely to support terrorism. He even going so far as to advance the spurious claim that invading Iraq and overthrowing SH would lead to other countries in the ME gaining democracy and freedom. They even tried to claim that some of nascent uprisings in the ME in 2005-2006 were evidence of this. Now that some Arab countries have risen up- with President Obama's encouragement- and overthrown their oppressive regimes and are in the process of instituting new forms of democratic government, they now blame President Obama for the outcome of their democratic decisions. So, do Republicans really stand for freedom and democracy (which means that we might have to tolerate some democratically elected governments that we might not agree with) or do they stand for supporting puppet dictators that preserve our interests at the expense of our people? Is it our prerogative/responsibility to ensure that only "approved" governments are "chosen" by their own people?
KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)You know that if the Arab Spring had happened under a booooosh or mccain regime the rushpublicans would be claiming all of what you state above. Since it happened under a Democratic administration then it's all bad and mishandled. it also plays into all the birfer crap...that somehow President Obama is showing his true "muslim" nature. But then it's always been the case with the authoritarian right that "democracy" is only good when its rigged in their favor...
Cheers...
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,415 posts)I don't expect anything less (or more) from the right when it comes to President Obama. One thing I've learned over the past four years is that-to the right-President Obama is bad, awful, horrible, evil, etc. no matter what he does, doesn't do, is allegedly planning to do...............
treestar
(82,383 posts)Foreign leaders looked downright relieved. They were happy. They were so glad the Shrub was gone.
ecstatic
(32,712 posts)Lucy Goosey
(2,940 posts)Not that I agree with their premise, but even if I thought Obama wasn't personable, THEIR CANDIDATE IS MITT FUCKING ROMNEY. One of the big goals of their convention was to make the candidate seem human, which should be a pretty low bar, yet they failed.
Obama's not personable = textbook projection, methinks.