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USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 08:37 AM Sep 2020

Nate (538) has Biden 77, Trump 22

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/

Joe Biden’s lead in national polls has narrowed to 7 percentage points, but he remains favored to win the election because we have a number of high-quality state polls that contain mostly good news for him. States like Minnesota, Arizona and Wisconsin show particularly strong numbers for Biden; however, don’t count President Trump out. He may be the underdog, but he still has a roughly one-in-four chance of pulling off an upset, and in states like Florida and North Carolina, he’s managed to narrow the gap considerably.
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mucifer

(23,561 posts)
2. I forget what did they have Hillary at just before the election? The good news is their
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 08:45 AM
Sep 2020

number has widened. It was 72% less than a week ago.

Bigredhunk

(1,351 posts)
8. :-)
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:20 AM
Sep 2020

Yes, of course we're all going to vote our asses off. But tell me reading things like this don't put a little pep in your step...esp on Monday mornings.

Thanks OP!

SKKY

(11,820 posts)
9. Well, call me a Negative Nancy, but this looks just a bit too much like...
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:23 AM
Sep 2020

...2016 for my taste. And given we may not even know days, or even weeks after November 2 who the actual winner is, I just wish someone would put me in a medically induced coma until January after the inauguration.

SKKY

(11,820 posts)
12. No doubt. But still, fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice. We won't get fooled again.
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:50 AM
Sep 2020

Not sure who said that.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,651 posts)
15. Big difference from 2016: Biden has 7 pt lead vs HRC's 2-3 pts.
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:54 AM
Sep 2020

According to 538, a 7 pt lead gives 99% odds of winning the electoral college, where a 2-3 pt lead only gives about 45-50% odds of winning.

Also, polls in 2016 oversampled college educated voters; this year, they are being weighted to include more responses from non-college voters.

SKKY

(11,820 posts)
17. And that is exactly what my head is tell me. But my heart still tells me this is not a done deal...
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 10:00 AM
Sep 2020

...and we could be in for another huge disappointment. And I know we only have to overcome 77,744 votes. But still, it shouldn't even be this close and the fact that it is make me nervous.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
10. The bookies have it 53 to 46
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:47 AM
Sep 2020

Silver is smart. The market is smart. I would guess reality is in between.

Yavin4

(35,445 posts)
14. The polls in 2016 were right, BUT they got the turnout wrong.
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:53 AM
Sep 2020

This is the big disconnect that some are making. Polls are one thing. Turnout is another. If supporters don't turnout, the polls will be wrong.

Hillary lost because turnout was down. See Milwaukee, WI in 2016 as an example.

I suspect that the polls are going to be more accurate this time because turnout will be up as we saw in VA this past weekend.

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