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regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:41 AM Sep 2020

Are the folks at Politico delusional...?

I don't want to link to the article because I don't want to give it any more exposure, but they have a piece up suggesting that Trump is now "riding high" after RBG's death, and that the naming of a new Justice will be just what he needs to bring back a whole bevy of anti-abortion voters into his camp, "flipping the script" and possibly allowing him to pull off a come-from-behind victory in November (although they grant he has a tendency to "blow it" when put in a strong position).

My initial question: what strong position???

It seems to me that the notion that there is a yuge hidden army of right-to-lifers out there who aren't already firmly in his camp, and haven't been there since 2016, seems utterly fanciful at best. And, considering that the one poll that has come out so far shows respondents opposed to Trump being able to fill the vacancy by a 51%-42% margin, I utterly fail to see how it's going to net him a large share of voters who wouldn't have backed him until now -- in fact, it would seem to be more likely to hurt him with voters than help him.

Am I missing something here?


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Are the folks at Politico delusional...? (Original Post) regnaD kciN Sep 2020 OP
politico is doing whatever it can to make some $$$. rumors, whatever nt msongs Sep 2020 #1
You're right on. lunatica Sep 2020 #2
There are some there that REALLY REALLY wants him to stay in office JI7 Sep 2020 #3
I agree with Politico unfortunately LeftInTX Sep 2020 #4
Covid was pushed off the front page for a few days, but it isn't staying off. SunSeeker Sep 2020 #7
Its like hatred, spite and divisiveness keep him alive. Nexus2 Sep 2020 #12
Agree. If anything RBG's death will move the left radius777 Sep 2020 #5
Anyone would think there wasn't a vacancy in 2016 Eid Ma Clack Shaw Sep 2020 #13
Right-wingers who were going to sit out the election BainsBane Sep 2020 #6
Right wingers who would be with him because of the Court are already with him. SunSeeker Sep 2020 #10
I think getting a new judge on the bench will invigorate right-wingers LeftInTX Sep 2020 #11
No and Americans are ready to vote trump out rockfordfile Sep 2020 #18
I don't think it is going to change much. This election has been locked in since mid June. RDANGELO Sep 2020 #8
Politico - delusional. dchill Sep 2020 #9
Media outlets desperately want horseraces too close to call Steven Maurer Sep 2020 #14
I never read Politico anymore crimycarny Sep 2020 #15
Excuse me but, I heard Steve Schmidt say Trump was on the run yuiyoshida Sep 2020 #16
I think they're being careful RBGForever Sep 2020 #17
Trump was getting the anti-abortion voters regardless DeminPennswoods Sep 2020 #19
Politico is a mouthpiece of the one percent...they will always find a conservative angle pecosbob Sep 2020 #20
There several articles on Politico regarding the election. SharonClark Sep 2020 #21

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
2. You're right on.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:44 AM
Sep 2020

His dismal approval rating is not going to budge and hasn’t for the last year. Maybe even the last 4 years.

Well actually it’s gone down.

LeftInTX

(25,563 posts)
4. I agree with Politico unfortunately
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:50 AM
Sep 2020

All news is good news when it comes to Trump

The loss of RBG, puts him back in the spotlight. The general public won't know too much about the nominee. If it's a woman, they will think, "How nice". It distracts voters from all the other shitty stuff that he's doing. All of sudden Covid isn't front page news anymore.

___________________

Last night, I was sitting in my car at Sonic, texting my friends. I suddenly got an alert on my phone, but I didn't get a text pop-up. Wishfully, I was hoping that Trump had died. I asked my friends and they told me it was just another Amber Alert..sigh...


Why can't he die??????????????

SunSeeker

(51,726 posts)
7. Covid was pushed off the front page for a few days, but it isn't staying off.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:08 AM
Sep 2020

People continue to die by the thousands. Schools are going back with no safeguards or testing plans, so infections will skyrocket, made worse by the flu season.

Nexus2

(1,261 posts)
12. Its like hatred, spite and divisiveness keep him alive.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:39 AM
Sep 2020

Like some bizarre psychic vampire. Or maybe its his 'good genes'.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
5. Agree. If anything RBG's death will move the left
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:55 AM
Sep 2020

in ways that Biden himself could not. Trump already moves the right.

The MSM is operating under the conventional wisdom that 'the Right votes on supreme court, Left does not'. This may be true in a generic sense but not when a liberal icon like RBG and her legacy is essentially 'on the ballot'. There is deep sadness and anger in the air, which will motivate the left and anti-Trump voters in general (women, moderates, etc).

Eid Ma Clack Shaw

(490 posts)
13. Anyone would think there wasn't a vacancy in 2016
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 04:14 AM
Sep 2020

the religious nut jobs will vote for Trump anyway, because they all think he’s the greatest god to ever do godly things. The support he’s lost and Biden has gained isn’t coming from that demographic.

BainsBane

(53,072 posts)
6. Right-wingers who were going to sit out the election
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:05 AM
Sep 2020

are less likely to do so now. The court is everything to the right.

It just occurred to me that this is a reason for Trump not to put through a nominee until after the election.

SunSeeker

(51,726 posts)
10. Right wingers who would be with him because of the Court are already with him.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:13 AM
Sep 2020

This won't bring the Never Trumpers back into the GOP fold.

Look what Lincoln Project Never Trumpers just put out:




LeftInTX

(25,563 posts)
11. I think getting a new judge on the bench will invigorate right-wingers
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:26 AM
Sep 2020

We're so fucked......
Unless Trump nominates a real turd like Barr or Dick Cheney etc.

He's gonna nominate a woman, and these women are not highly known. Additionally they can't use the same kind of questioning like they did the Kavanaugh.

Steven Maurer

(476 posts)
14. Media outlets desperately want horseraces too close to call
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 04:50 AM
Sep 2020

That's what sells eyeballs.

Further, the right wing gets angry at articles that point out that facts don't line up with what they want, while Democrats are obsessive hand wringers.

So of course they know the way to make money is to post this kind of stuff. Don't put any credence in it.

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
15. I never read Politico anymore
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 05:12 AM
Sep 2020

I stopped reading Politico articles about 6(?) months ago. They seemed to have a shift in their reporting from informational to opinion/sensational. Did they have a change in ownership?

yuiyoshida

(41,862 posts)
16. Excuse me but, I heard Steve Schmidt say Trump was on the run
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 05:12 AM
Sep 2020

That he is really way behind in the polls and is in a panic.. Both can't be true...

 

RBGForever

(30 posts)
17. I think they're being careful
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 05:48 AM
Sep 2020

I certainly thought Trump was done back in 2016, never would have thought he would be able to get even 40% of the vote after everything that had come out about him.

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
19. Trump was getting the anti-abortion voters regardless
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:22 AM
Sep 2020

They are the craziest, but most devoted to whatever candidate spouts a "pro-life" position whether the candidates believes it or not (in Trump's case).

pecosbob

(7,544 posts)
20. Politico is a mouthpiece of the one percent...they will always find a conservative angle
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:36 AM
Sep 2020

Some people here often like to spread their spin on things...both siderism, normalizaton, etc. The same sort of people that believe Susan Collins when she says she is concerned, or the New York times Editorial department when they say anything at all.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
21. There several articles on Politico regarding the election.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 10:59 AM
Sep 2020

Are your refering to one of these?

Ginsburg's death gives GOP an edge in 2020 legal fights by JOSH GERSTEIN
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/20/ginsburgs-death-gives-gop-an-edge-in-2020-legal-fights-418672

The left channels its fury toward McConnell by HOLLY OTTERBEIN
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/19/the-left-channels-its-fury-toward-mcconnell-418542

Check In 2020: How RBG's open seat impacts the election by Eugene Daniels
https://www.politico.com/video/2020/09/19/check-in-2020-how-rbgs-open-scotus-seat-impacts-the-election-091111

Pelosi: House has 'arrows in our quiver' to delay SCOTUS nomination by AUBREE ELIZA WEAVER
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/20/pelosi-house-supreme-court-nomination-418773

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