Illegitimati non carborundum!!!!

[niyad]

[marble falls]

1. semper ubi sub ubi.

[niyad]

2. That, too!!!!!!

[marble falls]

3. You're a lazy Latin fan, too! Remember "Si Non Oscillus Noli Tintinare"?

[niyad]

4. How could one forget!

Having gone to catholic elementary schools before Vatican II, I could recite the whole mass in Latin. For some reason, in high school, my instructor did not exactly approve of my vocabulary. Nor did my German instructor, come to think of it!

[marble falls]

6. I took it for four years, the hell I put those poor teachers through. The most imprtant thing I ...

get from was verb conjugation, which got me into AP English.

Latin is a language
As old as it can be,
Once it killed the Romans;
Now its killing me.

Puellae rosas amant.

Puer coca cola amat.

[Dale Neiburg]

16. I believe that should be "cocam colam." n/t

[marble falls]

28. Caveat Emptor! First year Latin was in 1963. My vocabulary was always weak, and the gender of ...

Coca Cola has deserted my memory banks.

[Hugin]

5. or the lesser known...

"si non agmine gestatio pulsans"

[marble falls]

7. Stumped me.

[Hugin]

8. Here's the more colloquial form...

"vel gestatio est si ne pulsate"

[marble falls]

29. Medical term regarding iimaging???

[Hugin]

30. Sort of...

See post #15.

[marble falls]

31. Jeez. Gallia est omnis divisa in partes tres ... how did I forget that nightmare! Or translating ...

the Aeneid ... yoy.

[Hugin]

32. My personal favorite remains, "Veni, vidi, vici."

We'll see if I get to use that bit soon.

Which, means for the inquisitive: "I came; I saw; I conquered."

[marble falls]

33. My turn: vinci.

[Hugin]

37. Fini?

[marble falls]

38. feni, fidi, finci?

[Hugin]

9. It's funny that you should say this, as this morning the Democrats stand on the banks of the...

Rubicon.

FORWARD!

[Hugin]

10. "alea iacta est" n/t

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[niyad]

11. Yes!!!!

[Hugin]

22. ...

A big Romanesque !

[Ilsa]

12. Latin wasn't offered in my high school or college.

Could all of you at least give us the literal translation to your phrases so we might eventually learn them?

[niyad]

13. The first is "don't let the bastards grind you down" (as marble falls says, lazy Latin).

I will let them translate theirs.

[Ilsa]

17. Thank you. I've heard it

before, but not for a very long time. I generally don't remember foreign phrases unless I hear them with some frequency. Maybe if I start using them in emails, posts, etc, they'll stick better.

[niyad]

21. Your comment about emails and texts reminded me of "Brush Up Your Shakespeare" from Cole

Porter's "Kiss me, Kate" (1953). Thanks to you, I just watched a YouTube clip of that number that was delightful.

[Wicked Blue]

14. Yes, please translate

for those of us who took German or French or Spanish.

Ease-play, anslate-tray

[Hugin]

15. A summary so far...

"Illegitimati non carborundum" ~ "Don't let the bastards grind you down"
"semper ubi sub ubi" (Latin/English pun) "Always where under where."
"Si Non Oscillus Noli Tintinare" ~ "If you don't swing, don't ring." Made famous as a brass plaque at the door of the Hefner mansion.
"si non agmine gestatio pulsans" ~ "If it is rocking do not knock."

And, finally and most importantly:

"alea iacta est" ~ "The die is cast." Reportedly the words Julius Caesar said right before he and his Legion set off across the Rubicon to take on the forces of the Roman Senate.

[Ilsa]

24. thank you very much. Puts the whole thread in context. nt

[Hugin]

27. I'm glad you asked.

Inquiry and curiosity are the hallmarks of a progressive mind.

[marie999]

20. Two years of Latin was mandatory in Junior High and four years of French in High School.

[Ilsa]

23. Must be a regional thing.

The students I knew that were going to study mathematics considered taking German classes, if they could get them.

Where I grew up, the only second language offered was Spanish, not Latin. Latin was only available at the one private Catholic school in the region.

A friend from thirty years ago from PA studied French.

Until the widespread development of personal computers and language software, students in rural areas were limited in course selection unless their district was wealthy.

[burrowowl]

35. Actually many German mathematicians wrote in French after Latin was abandoned

Renaissance Latin is a real pain.

[Greybnk48]

18. My dad had this behind the bar over the cash register at his tavern

when I was young. All the local farm kids who hung out would joke that they knew Latin, thanks to Bill!

Our drinking age for beer only in Wisconsin was 18. We had a "Beer Bar&quot .

[SaveOurDemocracy]

19. 1st one:

Illegitimi non carborundum is a mock-Latin aphorism, often translated as "Don't let the bastards grind you down". The phrase itself has no meaning in Latin and can only be mock-translated as a Latin–English pun.

[smirkymonkey]

25. Per unitatem vis!

[Wednesdays]

26. One of Harry Potter's spells, too.

[electric_blue68]

34. A Latin question. And my language story...

Knocked myself out of the site but I got to look up something relevant
.
Semper = always
When The Marines say "Semper Fie" is that...
"Always Loyal" ?
Latin was taught in about 25% of public schools but fell out of favor in "The 60's" as too traditional.

My language story...
Born & bred NYC'r. When I got to JHS in 66, 67 we were offered the usual Spanish and French. Hated my 6th grade French teacher back then so that spoiled my interest in it. Spanish, eh, no big interest either. But they also offered...


Russian!
Yeah, really. For future UN translators, Foreign Service, and CIA - I suppose. There were only 3 other JHSs in the the 5 Burroughs that offered it.
I'm half Ukrainian-American. I didn't really know about the emnity that many Ukies felt towards the (then) Soviet Union since The Ukraine had been taken over by ?Stalin. My dad spoke Ukraine to his dad. So since there were similarities I thought it would be cool to learn.

Three "genders". And a Cyrillic alphabet to learn!
But I actually did well in it! Unfortunately since I went to a specialized Art & Music HS it wasn't offered (wherein our local HS did but I wasn't intending to go there). So I took Spanish, and barely made it through.

I still remember some Russian words. 👍

Ha, I forgot the kicker! We had bomb scare in our JHS! I never heard anything about who was behind it. Looking back years later; us kids were a mix of ethnic whites, Jews, some African-Americans, Puerto Ricans and.....

Cubans! I wouldn't be surprised if it was some Anti-Castro Cuban being upset that our school was offering Russian as a third language choice.

[Hugin]

36. It's 'fi' which means 'faithful'.

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So, 'Semper fi' translates to 'Always faithful'.

I too missed out on a formal Latin class in school and I've picked up what I know through other disciplines. Which also say that Spanish (excluding the Castilian additions) is closer to the spoken Latin than any of the other Romance Languages including oddly enough modern Italian. There seems to be some controversy about this, but, I can see where it's true. Another fun fact is that even though it left an extensive linguistic footprint the Roman Empire left a sparse genetic footprint.

When you get over to the Eastern side of Europe obviously the Greek language holds more sway.

[electric_blue68]

40. Thanks for the spelling correction. Interesting ...

about Spanish being possibly the closest to Latin vs Modern Italian.

My HS Spanish teacher was about the Castilian pronunciation.

And I'm half Greek-American on my mom's side.

[JHB]

39. Carpe vium!