Marc Elias: BIG Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruling (voting)

[Nevilledog]

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[Ilsa]

1. So, ballots without inner envelop do count?

Am I understanding that correctly? An no ability to cure means what? How broad is that?

[Nevilledog]

2. I believe you are correct that no inner envelop do count.

I think the no ability to cure goes to missing or mismatching signatures.

[LisaL]

3. It says ballots without inner envelops don't count.

Inner envelop is the one that is supposed to be signed.

[Nevilledog]

5. I read it the other way. Struck the no envelope and no ability to cure.

[LisaL]

4. No ability to cure is not good.

It means voters won't be able to fix the ballot if its rejected.

[MissB]

6. I read it as that part was struck down

So I think you still have an ability to cure and not use the inner envelope

[LisaL]

8. Ability to cure is very good. That means voters will be notified

if their ballot is not accepted and will have an opportunity to fix the ballot.

[Nevilledog]

7. Looks like you might be correct.

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[LisaL]

9. Well, the inner envelope one makes sense.

That's where voter is supposed to sign, so without the inner envelop, there is no signature. So not accepting ballots without inner envelop makes sense. But no ability to cure is not good. Other states have that.

[Nevilledog]

10. Here's info about the ballot components

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[MissB]

11. Interesting!

In oregon, the inner envelope is just a privacy one and the outer envelope is where you sign.

[LisaL]

13. Apparently it's the same in PA.

But in OH we sign on the inner envelope, and put that into the outer envelope which is not signed.

[LisaL]

12. It's different in OH. We sign on inner envelope.

So I was thinking PA has similar rules, I guess not.

[qazplm135]

14. PA can have that too, they just need to put it into law

it's not really the judiciaries role to make law better, it's to rule on whether a law is constitutional or otherwise "correct."

So I agree with the court here, even if it does hurt us.