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Rachel continues to kick FOX butt! (Original Post) AnnieK401 Sep 2012 OP
And she has some of us old people too. Skidmore Sep 2012 #1
Rachel, this is for you coldbeer Sep 2012 #28
Pleasing that people prefer honest analysis to propaganda when given the choice. 1-Old-Man Sep 2012 #2
Wouldn't it be funny if Fox decides to sneak a liberal show in the line up? JohnnyRingo Sep 2012 #3
Olbermann's free. Swamp Lover Sep 2012 #6
Murdoch & Olbermann ? Yikes! mwooldri Sep 2012 #11
Actually, Olbermann did work for Fox muntrv Sep 2012 #29
So FOX will have one show that debunks all its other shows lunatica Sep 2012 #12
No he won't. obxhead Sep 2012 #14
Is the Fox audience dying off or have they finally had it with the Repub Propaganada Larkspur Sep 2012 #4
There was a big shift during the Democratic convemtion which Fox did not directly cover. existentialist Sep 2012 #9
Rachel was one of the pundits during the Convention lunatica Sep 2012 #13
I'm one of those people. tjdee Sep 2012 #33
FoxNews audiences were never all that large, the entire cable news world is a niche Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #18
People are ashamed these days Aerows Sep 2012 #37
Whoo ananda Sep 2012 #5
MSNBC should flip Ed and Rachel, mzmolly Sep 2012 #7
Friday nights wouldn't be the same lobodons Sep 2012 #8
I missed the origins of that.... AnneD Sep 2012 #10
On Friday nights right after Rachel the show 'Behind Bars' comes on for hours and hours. lunatica Sep 2012 #15
I can't wait for their new edition--"Lockup: Boat Jail" pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #16
They do it because they spend so heavily on talent that they can not produce Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #19
Lock-Up according to TV Guide also gets high ratings, it has Raine Sep 2012 #25
Give me a show at msnbc Shankapotomus Sep 2012 #32
I'd rather they run a "best of" the week from all of the weekday shows. mzmolly Sep 2012 #35
Thanks... AnneD Sep 2012 #22
She used to (always? often?) pour herself a cocktail at the end of Friday's shows. Thegonagle Sep 2012 #30
Wahoo! Lord have mercy and please pass the biscuits. cr8tvlde Sep 2012 #17
I have a tune in my head now MissNostalgia Sep 2012 #20
She's pretty awesome...but Hulk Sep 2012 #21
remember that MSNBC is probably on less than half the outlets rurallib Sep 2012 #23
Fox News 24-54 demo liberal from boston Sep 2012 #24
I just "liked" MSNBC on Facebook. Arugula Latte Sep 2012 #26
this is such soul warming news! Thanks AnnieK! Cha Sep 2012 #27
It is not because Rachel is good (she is), but ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2012 #31
I'm surprised MSNBC has kept them this long progressoid Sep 2012 #34
Or send them to Boat Jail pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #36
Switching Rachel and Ed, mentioned upthread, is not a bad idea really if you think about it... winstars Sep 2012 #38

JohnnyRingo

(18,633 posts)
3. Wouldn't it be funny if Fox decides to sneak a liberal show in the line up?
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 05:21 PM
Sep 2012

It's certainly not an idea without merit. If MSNBC continues to pick up steam, Murdock will be forced to rethink his programming schedule. Perhaps he'll woo Alan Colmes back into the Fox family.

Programming has less to do with ideology than ratings, and when money talks Murdock will listen. I guarantee it.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
11. Murdoch & Olbermann ? Yikes!
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 06:13 PM
Sep 2012

I don't think either will come to any acceptable terms for Olbermann to be a personality on *ANY* Fox network, owned and operated by News Corp ... let alone "Fox News".

muntrv

(14,505 posts)
29. Actually, Olbermann did work for Fox
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 08:27 PM
Sep 2012

when he was on Fox Sports Net in the early 2000s. I doubt he wants to go back.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
12. So FOX will have one show that debunks all its other shows
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 06:24 PM
Sep 2012

LOL! The Cognitive Dissonance would be hilarious!

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
14. No he won't.
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 06:26 PM
Sep 2012

Fox News is not there to generate a profit. They do not care. Fox and Murdock own plenty of other channels and businesses that do create a profit.

As long as Fox continues to influence elections, it will be on the air as is. They don't care how much it costs to keep it in operation. In fact, I'm betting they would go 100% commercial free if they had to. The 1% would keep it alive.

 

Larkspur

(12,804 posts)
4. Is the Fox audience dying off or have they finally had it with the Repub Propaganada
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 05:27 PM
Sep 2012

outlet? Or are they just tuning out until after the election to renew their "hate Obama" pablum?

existentialist

(2,190 posts)
9. There was a big shift during the Democratic convemtion which Fox did not directly cover.
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 06:09 PM
Sep 2012

Maybe people got a taste of something refreshing and different and didn't go back.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
13. Rachel was one of the pundits during the Convention
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 06:25 PM
Sep 2012

People may have really liked her and tuned in to her show after the Convention.

tjdee

(18,048 posts)
33. I'm one of those people.
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:07 AM
Sep 2012

I had stayed away from politics from a long time and happened into MSNBC coverage of the conventions. I found out I really like their lineup. Or, at least Rachel, Lawrence O'Donnell and Chris Hayes. Ed and Bashir are ok too.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
18. FoxNews audiences were never all that large, the entire cable news world is a niche
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 06:33 PM
Sep 2012

market. FoxNews says they are 'number one in cable news' and that means just that, nothing more. They are not number one in cable, nor in news, nor are they ever number one in any time slot. They are 'number one' in that they beat the other two cable news outlets. Most FoxNews shows draw under a million viewers.
The website the OP links to is very useful for those who want to learn actual viewship on these shows. MSNBC is gaining viewers, not taking them from Fox so much as making new viewers and taking some from Networks and CNN.
The DU meme that 'America gets all it's news from Fox' has never been anything close to true.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
37. People are ashamed these days
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:51 AM
Sep 2012

to admit they watch Fox News, even when you know good and well that's where they get their news from by their talking points.

 

lobodons

(1,290 posts)
8. Friday nights wouldn't be the same
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 06:06 PM
Sep 2012

I would miss Rachel's send off to the prison on Friday nights.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
15. On Friday nights right after Rachel the show 'Behind Bars' comes on for hours and hours.
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 06:27 PM
Sep 2012

No one knows why MSNBC does it but Rachel sends all her viewers off to jail as her sign-off comment.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
25. Lock-Up according to TV Guide also gets high ratings, it has
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 07:04 PM
Sep 2012

a real fan following even among celebrities ... go figure.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
32. Give me a show at msnbc
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 07:21 AM
Sep 2012

and I would produce news content for free just so msnbc could be a full time news network. Airing lockup makes them seem less committed.

Thegonagle

(806 posts)
30. She used to (always? often?) pour herself a cocktail at the end of Friday's shows.
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 08:34 PM
Sep 2012

I haven't seen that in awhile.

Now it's go directly to jail, do not stop for last drink.

MissNostalgia

(159 posts)
20. I have a tune in my head now
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 06:39 PM
Sep 2012

I just hear the chorus of the tune from Aladdin,"A Whole New World" stuck in my head now, so fitting.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
21. She's pretty awesome...but
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 06:45 PM
Sep 2012

she sure brings out the "hate" in the repukkkes. I'm guessing it's primarily that she's a lesbian, and then also that she's not a nasty, snarky, vendictive bitch like you see on fox....so they LOVES to HATE them some Maddow.

rurallib

(62,416 posts)
23. remember that MSNBC is probably on less than half the outlets
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 06:53 PM
Sep 2012

that FUX is.
Plus on many cable or dish systems MSNBC is not part of the basic package, whereas FUX is.
I pay extra just to get MSNBC.

Therefore the fact that Ed and Rachel are doing so well means that they are being watched by a much higher percentage of potential viewers than FUX.

If you could add in Current numbers (I often watch Spitzer) the numbers would probably be lefties all the way.

24. Fox News 24-54 demo
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 07:03 PM
Sep 2012

Lawrence O'Donnell is also doing great. The Last Word beat Greta in the 24-54 demo 4 days last week, Mon-Thurs.
The Last Word is not on Fridays. Wow, that the Rachel, Ed & Lawrence prime time shows are beating Fox is unbelievable. Keep up the good work!!!

Cha

(297,240 posts)
27. this is such soul warming news! Thanks AnnieK!
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 08:00 PM
Sep 2012

Hope cnn is still going down..with their Narrative "news" scenarios. You'd think they take a look at how well Rach is doing at msnbc?

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
31. It is not because Rachel is good (she is), but
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 07:11 AM
Sep 2012

Because the average age of a fox viewer is 86.4 years. They simply are dying off.

winstars

(4,220 posts)
38. Switching Rachel and Ed, mentioned upthread, is not a bad idea really if you think about it...
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 03:21 AM
Sep 2012

Let Ed battle InSannity, let them duke it out, it could be fun to watch. Putting Rachel against Billo, our best rated show versus their best rated show is an awesome idea, it would be be most excellent!!! Wasn't it KO versus Billo, oh so long ago... That worked just fine for me...

That said, I doubt that MSNBC and Phil Griffin will tinker with the schedule they currently have. Look at this thread, the headline is "MSNBC doing great!!!" I doubt they will make any change now and will wait till the post election-- first of the year time frame when things settle down. If they were cool they could/would fine tune things but...

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