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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBreaking: October Surprise via AG Barr going after big name Dems.
John Durham, investigator, has been enlisted by AG Barr in 2019 to look into origins of the government investigating Russian interference in our elections and the link to Trump. Trump all along has said it was illegal.
Washington Post investigative reporter, speaking on NPR today, said several big names will be brought up to the public by AG Barr.
The Washington Post article will be released in a couple days, it is currently with the editors.
(This is my paraphrase of what I just heard on the radio) I don't know exactly what Barr is going to do.
EDIT UPDATE: There are several articles from conservative media sources talking about John Durham and his investigative team working on Spygate crap.
Claustrum
(4,846 posts)And it definitely has nothing to do with politics /s
mysteryowl
(7,398 posts)onetexan
(13,069 posts)Dems to influence people's votes. Fat chance.
mysteryowl
(7,398 posts)Just by suggesting apparently makes it so, in this day and age of conspiracy theories being believed by so many.
GopherGal
(2,010 posts)Toss around a bunch of not proven, but too-hazy to be refutable accusations.
onetexan
(13,069 posts)saying "Many people said...". It's the same crap that gullible people fall for.
2naSalit
(86,832 posts)That "many people" are all the voices in his head.
onetexan
(13,069 posts)Talitha
(6,624 posts)CanonRay
(14,119 posts)Most prosecutors can get a Grand Jury to indict anyone. They could drop the charges after November 3rd.
Mr.Bill
(24,334 posts)who is going to stop them?
Fits with the horse shut talk radio pushes reBiden and Ukraine,
malaise
(269,212 posts)That's my surprise
Dem2
(8,168 posts)no_hypocrisy
(46,231 posts)Elections to let Trump win. How the Democrats wanted Russians to give the e-mails to James Comey to let Trump win. How the Democrats wanted the Russians to do the 2016 October Surprise with Huma Abedin's laptop not only to let Trump win but to essentially destroy Hillary Clinton, Huma Abedin, and her ex-husband, Anthony Weiner.
mysteryowl
(7,398 posts)I think it is about blaming Dems for investigating Trump/Russia connection. I will see if I can clear that up.
I edited my original wording for clarity. I hope it is better now.
radius777
(3,635 posts)to investigate Trump/Russia connection and this was bipartisan. The recently released Senate report was bipartisan. Comey, Mueller, Rosenstein, Strzok are all Republicans. A jury did convict Roger Stone.
If anything the FBI/Comey screwed Hillary by not saying they were investigating Trump, while being public about her email investigation.
0rganism
(23,975 posts)we're in the deep trouble now
i used to believe that Americans could find solutions to our large-scale problems
now our government busies itself with burying truth and polishing turds on behalf of a truly ridiculous egomaniac
we can no longer solve our problems internally
the 40-year project to make us too stupid to survive has succeeded
OAITW r.2.0
(24,656 posts)I think this will backfire incredibly. The American people have figured out the Republican game-plan. Project onto Democrats their own crimes.
Me.
(35,454 posts)Scoop Barr's own 'scoop'. The October surprise won't be. Let the pushback and innoculation begin.
mysteryowl
(7,398 posts)the deplorable base will see this information coming from the top cop of the land and believe it.
BannonsLiver
(16,506 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,334 posts)to arrest, charge and indict people whether or not he proves anyone guilty in court.
ProfessorGAC
(65,237 posts)I thought that's what grand juries are for.
In questioning, you're sure that the will find a majority to vote to indict when there is public evidence the investigation was started for cause?
Barr can't indict. He can only ask a grand jury to indict.
They don't get to pre-stack the jury, and Barr is not a terribly persuasive speaker.
I think you overestimate his powers.
BannonsLiver
(16,506 posts)They specifically said his deplorable base would believe it. Barr is an employee-co conspirator.
nolabear
(41,993 posts)Accuse them of politicizing the judicial system, as they have already done. Counter with facts and strong pushback. And push their illegal and immoral acts.
mysteryowl
(7,398 posts)AG Barr politicizing the justice department! Thanks, I forgot that part.
PTWB
(4,131 posts)At least those of us who have not already done so.
PTWB
(4,131 posts)It better.
Hyperbole much.
mysteryowl
(7,398 posts)Hopefully, the Dems will hold this administration accountable for the multiple crimes.
Yavin4
(35,447 posts)If the blue state workers stay home, that would shut the entire country down.
TheRealNorth
(9,500 posts)A lot of people struggle to put food on the table and pay rent. You expect people to starve as we do a general strike?
It's not like there there is a geopolitical counterweight like there was back in the 1960's that would prevent Trump from brutalizing his opponents. Trump isn't interested in showing the world that we are the "good guys".
The point is, I don't know if the playbook from the 1960's is still applicable.
Yavin4
(35,447 posts)the economy would shut down.
TheRealNorth
(9,500 posts)a large percentage are on-board with Trump. We would be very lucky to get half the country to participate.
Furthermore, we will then be blamed for the economic pain, so its not like this will win us more supporters.
NBachers
(17,149 posts)Yavin4
(35,447 posts)NBachers
(17,149 posts)If I see Obama in handcuffs, I'm not going to work.
GoCubsGo
(32,097 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)This isn't 2016 and Barr isn't James Comey.
If he tries this, it could very well blow up in his face.
GoCubsGo
(32,097 posts)Other than their brain-dead flying monkey cult followers. They think we're all stupid.
C_U_L8R
(45,025 posts)These idiots always overplay their hand.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)President traitor, drugs flying out his nose on camera, putting asylum seekers into long term caging at the border separated from their families, tax breaks for the wealthy, letting a deadly disease spread unchecked through vulnerable populations, breaks every law he contacts, and we get crickets.
AG Barr commissions a fictional account of someones fake transgressions that will get prime coverage up to the election.
Failure every day. Feature, not a bug.
bullwinkle428
(20,631 posts)JHB
(37,163 posts)Last edited Tue Sep 15, 2020, 05:37 PM - Edit history (1)
...with hints of "more to come," and basically blowing smoke in people's faces until the election.
And by smoke I mean the great fog bank of steam that rises off the Himalayas of Horseshit they put out.
And for those wondering, WAG = Wild Ass Guess.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)Looks like he's trying to beat them to the punch?
mysteryowl
(7,398 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,768 posts)and he's throwing caution to the wind? Knowing that Trump will pardon him, whatever happens?
kentuck
(111,110 posts)I think it's mostly assholeitis.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Don't think the Democrats are not ready for this crapola, they are. Conservative media is the fake news.
treason barr, stone, Pompeo, mcturtle, graham, Johnson, et al all must face the music.
Baitball Blogger
(46,768 posts)and allow defamation lawsuits against the AG for politically targeting people.
Karadeniz
(22,587 posts)Investigations have shown the truth. Just not fair.
LiberalBrooke
(527 posts)The rest of the thinking adults will roll their eyes.
Bettie
(16,132 posts)but we've got a lot of non-thinkers out there and the media will be all over it with 'Well, did it happen? Could have, you never, know, both sides, etc.'
I do think that Barr is off the rails enough to try to make arrests.
lindysalsagal
(20,747 posts)Nuff said.
Karadeniz
(22,587 posts)Brigade of shady investigations is probing...unless they refute the lies in the same article.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)Spazito
(50,511 posts)We don't even know who the person was on NPR or even what they said, we only have some rather vague paraphrasing of what they thought they heard.
Until there is an actual published article we really don't know anything concretely, imo.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)I wouldn't put it past them.
Watch.
Mr.Bill
(24,334 posts)If you don't think they would do this, you haven't been paying attention.
These are the people who are dismantling the USPS right out in the open.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)But somehow I think his base would be more fired up to see Obama in chains.
Racists are like that.
Botany
(70,610 posts)the FISA court's ruling that allowed the investigations, and lots of other stuff.
Good God in Butter when are we gonna get rid of these shits?
BTW a good lawyer should be able to tie up Barr and company with a prosecutorial
misconduct filing(s).
Oh Chairman Schiff do you want to come and testify?
hurple
(1,306 posts)Getting word out that this is coming ahead of it coming will kill ot dead in its tracks.
I mean if you're planning to rob a bank, and somebody posts the plans to a billboard near the bank... do you still rob the bank?
BlueWavePsych
(2,640 posts)bluestarone
(17,062 posts)RUSSIA does it!!
triron
(22,025 posts)Justice
(7,188 posts)Enough to fill airways. It will die away after election, no matter who wins.
Initech
(100,107 posts)mysteryowl
(7,398 posts)AG Barr is not writing an article.
radius777
(3,635 posts)Trump hopes that Durham will discredit the origins of the FBI's Russia investigation into his 2016 campaign, and allies, including Barr, have questioned whether the Russians showed a preference for Trump in 2016. But the US intelligence assessment released last month threatens to undercut those goals, making clear the Russians are doubling down on their pro-Trump efforts to undermine Democratic nominee Joe Biden's 2020 campaign.
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More likely, some officials believe, is a harshly critical report on the conduct and decisions of top intelligence and law enforcement officials who oversaw the investigation of the Trump campaign's ties to Russians.
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Shapiro added that the interview occurred at CIA headquarters and Durham had told Brennan he is a witness and isn't a target of the probe, meaning they are not pursuing charges alleging wrongdoing by Brennan. Brennan told Durham that Barr has politicized Durham's investigation, and the former CIA chief asked why the agency's intelligence work on Russian election interference in 2016 is being scrutinized when it's been validated by the Senate Intelligence Committee and former special counsel Robert Mueller.
Barr/Trump are grasping at straws as 'spygate' only resonates with their crazed base, not anyone in the reality based community.