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Don't Tell Black People... (Original Post) sheshe2 Sep 2020 OP
K&R Solly Mack Sep 2020 #1
I didnt want to believe the main reason trumpers are mad is Eliot Rosewater Sep 2020 #2
Brats ... GeorgeGist Sep 2020 #3
Good point...nt Wounded Bear Sep 2020 #4
None of their broke asses would owned anyone. They'd have been working... brush Sep 2020 #5
Slavery meant that these fuckdribbles wouldn't be on the bottom of the socioeconomic Aristus Sep 2020 #8
There are many employed at minimum wage Backseat Driver Sep 2020 #36
Except that slaves were valuable. So the dirtiest, most dangerous jobs went to these guys. catrose Sep 2020 #42
Whatever slaves' monetary value, slaveowners didn't seem to have any problem Aristus Sep 2020 #46
Not a bit. catrose Sep 2020 #49
+1, but on just economy ladder alone they were at the bottom cause slavery suppressed wages. Slaves uponit7771 Sep 2020 #55
Who would use paid labor when there's slavery? Yavin4 Sep 2020 #9
Overseers and such, but you're right. Many would've been broke ass... brush Sep 2020 #13
Subsistence farmers would be wiped out by any number of environmental disasters Yavin4 Sep 2020 #17
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2020 #56
It most certainly was about labor for cotton - that went to Northern factories largely ... marble falls Sep 2020 #27
Owning another human being is an investment that needs to be kept up: food, clothing, shelter... Hekate Sep 2020 #28
I think that's now called living off-grid on a homestead, and this trendy living isn't really as Backseat Driver Sep 2020 #33
Maybe...but they would have the shotgun ashredux Sep 2020 #14
"Do you know how much a slave cost back then?" betsuni Sep 2020 #35
...and the men who owned slaves would have called them trash to their faces Warpy Sep 2020 #61
Excellent, Ma'am The Magistrate Sep 2020 #6
Great post malaise Sep 2020 #7
I just roll my eyes MustLoveBeagles Sep 2020 #10
Good stuff: Hows mom doing? marble falls Sep 2020 #11
She turned 94 in July. sheshe2 Sep 2020 #21
Holy-moly! Good for her. Even as important - I hope you're doing well, too! marble falls Sep 2020 #25
Or losing their war. George II Sep 2020 #12
POW!!! llashram Sep 2020 #15
Who would want to work for these super spreading ignoramuses even with pay? Illumination Sep 2020 #16
That is mainly what it's about for most Trump supporters Roc2020 Sep 2020 #18
55 years ago this October this "damn yankee" saw my first rebel flag. 51 years this October......... usaf-vet Sep 2020 #19
K&R. nt iluvtennis Sep 2020 #20
So... if they're flying their flag upside down Harker Sep 2020 #22
This is so perfect KT2000 Sep 2020 #23
If they don't like Black folks, safeinOhio Sep 2020 #24
These people ain't seen a brown-skinned man since their grandparents bought one Tarc Sep 2020 #26
Excellent post, She Hekate Sep 2020 #29
Right On!!! Aviation91 Sep 2020 #30
KNR niyad Sep 2020 #31
DAMN ! Bullseye ! liberalla Sep 2020 #32
I bet 100% of the people in that photo TNNurse Sep 2020 #34
K&R smirkymonkey Sep 2020 #37
Best of all: 98% of Antebellum-era White folks owned NO slaves sandensea Sep 2020 #38
" Slaves were, after all, property - and had to be cared for accordingly." sheshe2 Sep 2020 #48
THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 ... then they went and fought so rich people can keep their property !! That's uponit7771 Sep 2020 #57
Thanks. History does tend to repeat itself, doesn't it. sandensea Sep 2020 #58
👍 uponit7771 Sep 2020 #59
I love this post. Wish I could come up with zingers like that. NoRoadUntravelled Sep 2020 #39
OMG Yes. The "lost cause" was lost and they need to get over it. n/t Beartracks Sep 2020 #40
Oh Snap! lunatica Sep 2020 #41
Unintended consequences... AmyStrange Sep 2020 #43
And slavery did not end with the Emancipation Proclamation. sheshe2 Sep 2020 #47
Exactly! n/t AmyStrange Sep 2020 #50
That is spot on! Catherine Vincent Sep 2020 #44
K&R Blue Owl Sep 2020 #45
SMACK DOWN! W000t! electric_blue68 Sep 2020 #51
True. Story. N/T angrychair Sep 2020 #52
LOL! Nitram Sep 2020 #53
K & R SunSeeker Sep 2020 #54
BOOM!!!!!!!! calimary Sep 2020 #60

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
2. I didnt want to believe the main reason trumpers are mad is
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 05:10 PM
Sep 2020

this, but it is surely.

Well, that and they wanna kill Women and doctors.

brush

(53,785 posts)
5. None of their broke asses would owned anyone. They'd have been working...
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 05:24 PM
Sep 2020

for the man just like enslaved people, only they'd have been getting minimum wage and liking it.

Aristus

(66,381 posts)
8. Slavery meant that these fuckdribbles wouldn't be on the bottom of the socioeconomic
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 05:28 PM
Sep 2020

ladder.

Once the ban on slavery levelled the playing field a little, that's when the lynching started. They had to feel superior somehow...

Backseat Driver

(4,393 posts)
36. There are many employed at minimum wage
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 07:05 PM
Sep 2020

that must "like it" to keep it! They are neither supporters of the GOP, fuckdribbles, nor necessarily broken asses that got a lickin' in the woodshed of life.

I protest the name-calling as it pertains to the general population. If it was stated to only pertain to MAGATs, so be it! They seriously do need some re-programming of the brain cells no matter their self-impression of their IQ or wealth.

catrose

(5,068 posts)
42. Except that slaves were valuable. So the dirtiest, most dangerous jobs went to these guys.
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 08:19 PM
Sep 2020

They'd work for practically free.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
55. +1, but on just economy ladder alone they were at the bottom cause slavery suppressed wages. Slaves
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 06:49 AM
Sep 2020

... did more than pic cotton they were also the carpenters, black smiths, ship builders etc.

The people who fought for the south fought to make sure rich people kept their property, I don't see how that was a good thing for them

Yavin4

(35,441 posts)
9. Who would use paid labor when there's slavery?
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 05:29 PM
Sep 2020

They wouldn't be getting anything at all. They would be subsistence farmers living in the mountains.

brush

(53,785 posts)
13. Overseers and such, but you're right. Many would've been broke ass...
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 05:43 PM
Sep 2020

subsistence farmers being told they were superior to the enslaved people and thus divided and conquered to the advantage of the slavers, as early on during enslavement there were white indentured servants and they started intermixing with the enslaved, even marrying.

Slavers soon put a stop to that in fear of uprising by preaching white superiority and separating them as together they vastly outnumber slaver families.

Yavin4

(35,441 posts)
17. Subsistence farmers would be wiped out by any number of environmental disasters
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 05:53 PM
Sep 2020

Flood, droughts, earthquakes, hurricanes, etc. Also, given the immense wealth that the slavers would accumulate, they would push these poor subsistence farmers off of the more fertile soil.

They would be starving with no means to provide for themselves. They would wage war against the slave owners and slaves alike. IOW, a Civil war or some other form of armed conflict was inevitable had slavery been allowed to continue.

marble falls

(57,101 posts)
27. It most certainly was about labor for cotton - that went to Northern factories largely ...
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 06:39 PM
Sep 2020

but a very big part of it purely had to with the money in the market of buying and selling humans on the slave market. There were fortunes made purely on speculation in humans.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
28. Owning another human being is an investment that needs to be kept up: food, clothing, shelter...
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 06:44 PM
Sep 2020

And if you think your “investment” reproduces for nothing, wrong again. An infant does not begin earning its way for quite a few years.

I don’t think poor whites were in the market for slaves — but thanks to intentional social programming then and now, African Americans were a population poor whites could look down on.

What a shameful and cruel system or national “birth defect” was and is.

Backseat Driver

(4,393 posts)
33. I think that's now called living off-grid on a homestead, and this trendy living isn't really as
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 06:55 PM
Sep 2020

inexpensive as it sounds! All that "hard work's" has been partially replaced by conveniences, technology, and "freedom," but is still a far cry from Little House on the Prairie or the land registration races of Far and Away, and their doctors, then, accepted payment in chickens and their families and preachers, a stipend and perhaps room and board.

Now that we live from sea to shining sea, "The land, Katie Scarlett, is the only thing that matters" (GWTW) still, but there's so many right now that work hard enough but cannot own affordable housing with a small yard in the cities or 'burbs; indeed many forego the small yard to live where the business and entertainment venues "happens," while the 1% earn more just by breathing and have multiple investment in real estate, commercial and residential, and everything else.

Just like healthcare for themselves and their families linked to employment, ways to meet costs that exceed what Medicare pays and/or covers are neither easily accessible or far more costly than what many seniors, innocent of laziness, and/or discriminated against in the so-called protected classes of workers can even access and pay. Nor can these folks access and pay for lawyers to represent the injustices under which they've fallen.

It's hard to think that every one of the "discriminations" really starts with white supremacy under a Judeo-Christian legacy, but there it is! And such a sensitive embedded problem it is from Day 1 of the forefathers' signing The Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union, and the Constitution of the United States of America, Bill of Rights, and Amendments adopted thereof.

Warpy

(111,270 posts)
61. ...and the men who owned slaves would have called them trash to their faces
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 12:56 PM
Sep 2020

That's one thing about the south I found particularly galling, the absolute lack of recognition of what trying to compete with slave labor had meant to their own forebears.

I'm not trying to minimize the experience of people who were kidnapped and sold into slavery. US slavery was absolutely the worst example of it, ever, although serfdom came close.

I'm just withing these chowderheads would have gotten a better education in the fact that their ow family's pre confederate condition was far from glorious. It was brutal. They weren't worth keeping alive as property.

MustLoveBeagles

(11,611 posts)
10. I just roll my eyes
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 05:29 PM
Sep 2020

when these ignorant jackasses tell POC, without irony, that they need to get over slavery and stop living in the past. Hello?! WTF would they call what they're doing?

Roc2020

(1,616 posts)
18. That is mainly what it's about for most Trump supporters
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 06:02 PM
Sep 2020

Trump could be Hitler does not matter. Blacks are proud to be Black. Have power. And have a buying economy of over 1 Trillion.

usaf-vet

(6,188 posts)
19. 55 years ago this October this "damn yankee" saw my first rebel flag. 51 years this October.........
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 06:09 PM
Sep 2020

...... I thought I had once and for all seen my last rebel flag as I drove north to my home state of MA.

Then along came a racist president unlike any I have seen in my lifetime. WOW, what a sad state of affairs.

Harker

(14,022 posts)
22. So... if they're flying their flag upside down
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 06:21 PM
Sep 2020

are they in distress? Surrendering? Too ignorant to know it?

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
26. These people ain't seen a brown-skinned man since their grandparents bought one
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 06:39 PM
Sep 2020

to quote some wise young men.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
29. Excellent post, She
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 06:47 PM
Sep 2020

Remember LBJ said:

“If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you." - Lyndon Johnson

TNNurse

(6,927 posts)
34. I bet 100% of the people in that photo
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 07:03 PM
Sep 2020

come from families that did not have enough money or property to own slaves, or were from places where slavery was not common.

In other words, liars and frauds, just plain old racists.

sandensea

(21,636 posts)
38. Best of all: 98% of Antebellum-era White folks owned NO slaves
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 07:09 PM
Sep 2020

Save for a small professional/merchant middle class most pre-1865 Southern White families were, in fact, worse off than the slaves themselves.

Slaves were, after all, property - and had to be cared for accordingly.

Poor "white trash" were nothing, to no one.

sheshe2

(83,786 posts)
48. " Slaves were, after all, property - and had to be cared for accordingly."
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 09:10 PM
Sep 2020

You should read this book.

Slavery by Another Name
-Douglas Blackmon

https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/douglas-blackmon

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
57. THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 ... then they went and fought so rich people can keep their property !! That's
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 06:52 AM
Sep 2020

... like Trump people fighting so Trump can keep his toilets, buncha brain dead assed people.

 

AmyStrange

(7,989 posts)
43. Unintended consequences...
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 08:28 PM
Sep 2020

-

During slavery, cotton was cheap and most of the textile mills were up North, but then they started building them in the South, and guess what happened?

There were many true abolitionist back then, but the Civil War was not totally about freeing the slaves.
===========

sheshe2

(83,786 posts)
47. And slavery did not end with the Emancipation Proclamation.
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 08:59 PM
Sep 2020

It did not end until WWI. Slavery by Another Name.

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