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DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 10:24 AM Sep 2020

The Worlds Biggest Problem Is Rupert Murdoch

Thousands die every day directly because of the lies and propaganda spewed by his employees at Fox and elsewhere. All while the planet burns.

He created Trumpism, by brainwashing Trumps cult with lies and propaganda. Fear, fear, and more fear. All simply for profit.

We get to die so Rupert can sell advertising to the brainwashed.

Money = The Root Of All Evil

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The Worlds Biggest Problem Is Rupert Murdoch (Original Post) DanieRains Sep 2020 OP
Careful, proportional accountability can lead to being lambasted!1 UTUSN Sep 2020 #1
I Watched Sean Hannity Say We Found WMD's In Iraq DanieRains Sep 2020 #2
Yes, and their "news team" did the same. Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2020 #33
Yes, and he kept it up for years. Just baldfaced lies. Midnight Writer Sep 2020 #36
Unfortunately, all except one of his children will be taking over to continue the "tradition" still_one Sep 2020 #3
If the authorities do as the law requires them to do, all except one will be in jail. not_the_one Sep 2020 #11
I SO totally agree. Every time I watch mainstream media treat fox propaganda as if it's BComplex Sep 2020 #4
+1 pandr32 Sep 2020 #22
I don't understand people like Murdoch. Mike 03 Sep 2020 #5
And Funding Climate Change Denying Politicians DanieRains Sep 2020 #6
I'm right there with you moose65 Sep 2020 #16
Rupert's mother lived to 103 GeoWilliam750 Sep 2020 #45
Has anyone been able to explain why Rupert and Vlad seem to never disagree? GeoWilliam750 Sep 2020 #46
+1000 Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #7
Master of faux reality. zentrum Sep 2020 #8
fox is merely visual icing on the lie turd pie of talk radio. the cartoon cliff notes certainot Sep 2020 #9
I hear you. Duppers Sep 2020 #14
+1. yonder Sep 2020 #20
+1000 K&R h2ebits Sep 2020 #23
+a brazillion! nt tblue37 Sep 2020 #26
I disagree that Fox News is not a monster pandr32 Sep 2020 #30
i agree it's a problem, especially in the sense you describe certainot Sep 2020 #38
Hate radio dovetails nicely with Fox News pandr32 Sep 2020 #43
rw radio and fox have produced trillions in global warming, deregulation, war, certainot Sep 2020 #47
Disgusting and true pandr32 Sep 2020 #49
What happens when Murdoch is gone? Sneederbunk Sep 2020 #10
Another right wing nut will take his place. KS Toronado Sep 2020 #15
AKA profiteer, because there's money in wing nuts Auggie Sep 2020 #17
EXACTLY.....You nailed it. KS Toronado Sep 2020 #29
Rupert has one foot in the grave. smirkymonkey Sep 2020 #12
Thought it was "The Love of Money is The Root of All Evil"? KS Toronado Sep 2020 #13
Murdoch has caused disaster everywhere he has media. Lonestarblue Sep 2020 #18
The World's OTHER BIGGEST PROBLEM Martin Eden Sep 2020 #19
Oh, he had a hand in starting it but shares equal blame with Limbaugh Warpy Sep 2020 #21
Hear, hear! What you said! scarletwoman Sep 2020 #28
Rupert's son, Lachlan, now at the helm. is even more extreme than his father dlk Sep 2020 #24
Yes, he gave tRump a stage. StarryNite Sep 2020 #25
Yep. He's like the twisted media mogul in Tomorrow Never Dies. marmar Sep 2020 #27
That character was based on Murdoch Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #31
The lust for wealth and power are two of the biggest illusions that PatrickforO Sep 2020 #32
bring back the fairness doctrine now. AllaN01Bear Sep 2020 #34
The Fairness Doctrine wouldn't have any effect on Faux News, dware Sep 2020 #41
Would have no effect on Fox News moose65 Sep 2020 #48
We will never be a United country again with the likes of Murdoch and his ilk left unfettered Pluvious Sep 2020 #35
They're like a drug cartel Blue Owl Sep 2020 #37
Fox News and Right Wing Radio deserve to burn in hell DSandra Sep 2020 #39
He'll spend eternity in Hell. moondust Sep 2020 #40
The Murdoch's tapped into a market that as already there Kaleva Sep 2020 #42
If the gop didn't have him, they'd make one. lindysalsagal Sep 2020 #44
 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
2. I Watched Sean Hannity Say We Found WMD's In Iraq
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 10:28 AM
Sep 2020

The lies are deadly.

Ask the families of our soldiers lost in Iraq.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,858 posts)
33. Yes, and their "news team" did the same.
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 12:59 PM
Sep 2020

In case any lurking Republicans try to use the old excuse that Hannity is just an opinion show.

And I never heard of any of them apologizing for being wrong either, unlike a more truth-concerned reporter like Dan Rather.

It's indeed the constant LIES that are the main problem with Fox. They've played a big role in making it nearly impossible to even have a civil debate with many Republicans, because their so-called "truth" (lies) doesn't even match our truth anymore.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
11. If the authorities do as the law requires them to do, all except one will be in jail.
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 11:46 AM
Sep 2020

But there hasn't been REAL political law (political law without an agenda) since Clinton was president. He took his lumps and still came out on top. The fact that he did pissed the republicans off so much they vowed to let NOTHING stand between them and power. Their lies and their supreme court gave us W. And things got worse. 9/11. A fake war, based on lies, a country destroyed, and so much more.

Obama was a anomaly. They didn't anticipate the power of the black vote aligned with progressives. But they announced on day one that they would allow him to accomplish nothing. And for the most part, they were successful. Yet he is now the most popular president in history.

IF our "so-called" "rule of law" means what it is supposed to mean, all except Tiffany are guilty of massive financial fraud, or being a party to it. They would spend most of their remaining lives behind bars. They may be nice bars, but bars nonetheless.

Let's sit back and see what happens. I would suggest not holding your breath.

BComplex

(8,076 posts)
4. I SO totally agree. Every time I watch mainstream media treat fox propaganda as if it's
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 10:36 AM
Sep 2020

a legitimate news agency, I just cringe. The entire media empire (all five corporations other than fox) need to start attacking fox for all the harm they've caused this country. Sure, it might start a shit-storm, but that, in itself might sell if they do it right.

Fox IS the reason this country is so divided. Hate radio and fox together are the enemy of the USA. Over 6% of Fox newscorp stock is owned OUTRIGHT by the Saudis, and god only knows how much more of it is owned by shell companies and LLC's that are further owned by those who want to see "the great satan" brought down.

Until the focus turns to who the actual enemy of the state is, we are going to keep going round and round in this propaganda cess pool that fox and hate radio has created.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
5. I don't understand people like Murdoch.
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 10:37 AM
Sep 2020

The guy is 89 years old and rich beyond anyone's wildest dreams. According to that NYT profile, he's got no moral compass but a thirst for power that never dies. His news outlets are contributing to the destruction of democracies across the globe, including ours. Many people blame his newspapers for the passage of Brexit. He's revolting.

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
6. And Funding Climate Change Denying Politicians
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 10:40 AM
Sep 2020

His wealth and lust for power is literslly destroying the planet.

moose65

(3,169 posts)
16. I'm right there with you
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 11:55 AM
Sep 2020

He’s not going to last too many more years. If I was in my 80’s and had more money than I could spend in 100 lifetimes, I’d be out enjoying my life.

Same thing with Charles Koch. He’ll be 85 soon. David Koch found out last year that you can’t take it with you. And Sheldon Adelson is 87.

Of course, they all think that George Soros at 90 is ruling the world, so there’s that 😝😝

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
9. fox is merely visual icing on the lie turd pie of talk radio. the cartoon cliff notes
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 11:44 AM
Sep 2020

for talk radio and blaming fox does not recognize or help solve the real problem. it's a distraction

the record partisanship started in the early 90s before fox in 96. ALEX was suddenly sucessfull in the early 90s - before fox.

fox can't call biden and harris "joe and the ho" or say half the shit rw radio hosts can or 1000th as many times.

fox cannot be coordinated on the local level to distort local issues and attack local dems

unlike political talk radio fox has alternatives a click away

this disaster is largely the result of letting 1500 think tank coordinated radio stations blast the country with coordinated propaganda the last 30 years

democrats and liberals have done NOTHING in response while blaming fox, money, deregulation and other symptoms of that unchallenged repetition, believing idiotic rw talking points that a 95% monopoly that spews lies and hate all day is somehow an expression of free speech and the 'market' demand of americans.

political talk radio is the ONLY major medium without challenge and alternatives a click or page-turn away. it is the only unique advantage republicans have

at $1000/hr 1200 radio stations doing 15 hrs/day are worth $90M/week and about $5BIL/YEAR FREE to our corporate masters.

the influence of the kremlin on RW radio has increased since 2008 at least

yet democrats and the left continue to ignore talk radio, analyzing politics and blaming symptoms as if studying fish without water

how fucking sad that the whole thing gets better when limbaugh croaks and the monopoly falls apart without its main rudder (the captains are probably in russia now) without the progressive orgs having never done anything to identify and challenge what's been kicking our ass for 30 fucking years, especially now that artificial intelligence would allow us to digitize and monitor a lot of the repetition and neutralize it before it can create the alternative realities that make it impossible for democracy and the national fact based debate that democracy depends on

pandr32

(11,631 posts)
30. I disagree that Fox News is not a monster
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 12:36 PM
Sep 2020

It is.
Before we moved to Hawaii we had an RV and went on road trips every chance we got towing a motorcycle.
We pulled up in many remote places and would plug the RV into whatever cable programming the park offered for their guests.
Outside major cities and nearby towns Fox is the only choice for news. Murdoch and News Corp managed to get his propaganda bundled into the most basic systems across the country--all that small townships could afford. There was no "a click away." The news people get all across the country is filtered through the deliberate distortion of Fox News.
Our daughter served two tours in Iraq and has been to many bases. The only news they stream is Fox.
Yes, hate radio is a monster, but the default news of way too much of this country is Fox.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
38. i agree it's a problem, especially in the sense you describe
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 04:05 PM
Sep 2020

and a lot of people do good work exposing and criticizing it

i am pretty sure though that it will cease to have shits like hannity, ingram, and carlson if talk radio wasn't there to do the groundwork repetition for their alternate reality

when they go on they know their bullshit already has or will soon have been pounded into the earholes of 5o mil a week - that the wind in their sails . without it they wouldn't have a job

pandr32

(11,631 posts)
43. Hate radio dovetails nicely with Fox News
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 06:35 PM
Sep 2020

When ordinary people sit home eating their pork chops and peas in front of Fox News (getting what they think is accurate reporting of the state of things in the country and world) and then flip on the radio to hear those views amplified further--they're indoctrinated and have no idea. They think they are the default regular American people.
Murdoch's villainous cunning was to buy 20th Century Fox and bundle Fox News into the most basic cable packages all over the country. Like it or not, Fox was always part of the deal. He has been a scourge over much of the world as he manipulated everything and everyone he could.
He then winds up with Jerry Hall. Go figure.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
47. rw radio and fox have produced trillions in global warming, deregulation, war,
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 10:32 AM
Sep 2020

supremes, tax breaks, elections, etc

like rw radio fox was heavily subsidized to start. now fox makes money and rw radio barely or is in debt. and they don't cost the cons a bit - paid for by national and local advertisers

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
12. Rupert has one foot in the grave.
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 11:48 AM
Sep 2020

He's not long for this world. Jerry Hall and the rest of us sane people will all be very happy when he has finally kicked the bucket. Hopefully it won't be much longer.

Lonestarblue

(10,108 posts)
18. Murdoch has caused disaster everywhere he has media.
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 11:58 AM
Sep 2020

He did a lot to create the anti-immigrant beliefs that led to Brexit, with help from Russia. I believe the citizens of Great Britain will rue the day they chose to leave the EU.

Australia, Murdoch’s birth country, has its own problems with right-wing nationalism. And the US is now full of misinformation and ignorance championed by Fox. Murdoch and at least one of his spawn are disgusting examples of the human race. I don’t know how we satisfy the demands of free speech and rein in the lies in media, but we are losing our country to the worst sort of propaganda.

Martin Eden

(12,881 posts)
19. The World's OTHER BIGGEST PROBLEM
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 11:59 AM
Sep 2020

A citizenry too poorly educated and bereft of critical thinking skills to realize they've been played for fools with hateful lies and propaganda.

Warpy

(111,383 posts)
21. Oh, he had a hand in starting it but shares equal blame with Limbaugh
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 12:10 PM
Sep 2020

Right now our biggest problem is Facebook. More bot activity, trolling, disinformation, and conspiracy is being peddled there than anyplace else and it makes the two grandpas of wingnutism pale in comparison.

Were I stuck with the job of cleaning this country up, Zuckerberg would get an ultimatum: clean it up or have your charter withdrawn and give up the US part of your service.

dlk

(11,584 posts)
24. Rupert's son, Lachlan, now at the helm. is even more extreme than his father
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 12:25 PM
Sep 2020

With the past help of Roger Ailes, they have gone far in dividing and seriously damaging our democracy with their propaganda. Fox is propaganda central. When the Reagan administration repealed the Fairness Doctrine, they knew exactly what they were doing.

PatrickforO

(14,599 posts)
32. The lust for wealth and power are two of the biggest illusions that
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 12:52 PM
Sep 2020

plague humankind. And the third? Lust for immortality. Look at what has happened to Murdoch. His son actually left Fox, citing ideological differences with his dad.

And how old is Rupert? 150? The guy is fragile-old, bad-old, yet he still clings to this 'empire' of power and wealth he has created. In the end, though, when he dies, he will leave this earth naked and alone, with all his wealth and all his power meaning less than nothing.

It's kind of a sick waste, really. A life spent in service to humanity is far better. Salvation is collective, not individual - our whole species has to grow up. We have to evolve toward taking care of each other and ensuring the habitability of this planet for all life is preserved and enhanced through wise and moral policies.

dware

(12,449 posts)
41. The Fairness Doctrine wouldn't have any effect on Faux News,
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 04:40 PM
Sep 2020

Faux is on cable, of which the Fairness Doctrine didn't apply to, along with satellite.

In fact, cable nor satellite channels don't require a license to operate, the FCC has zero authority over those spectrums.

moose65

(3,169 posts)
48. Would have no effect on Fox News
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 01:27 PM
Sep 2020

However, it WOULD apply to the AM radio stations that now blare 100% right-wing hate all day long. In many rural areas, this is all that is on the radio.

I wonder why left-wing (or hell, even centrist) radio never caught on? The few times I've heard a snippet of right-wing radio, I felt like I was hearing a sermon from one of those hardshell Baptist churches around here.

Pluvious

(4,327 posts)
35. We will never be a United country again with the likes of Murdoch and his ilk left unfettered
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 01:10 PM
Sep 2020

If you want to learn more, watch Jen Senko's documentary
The Brainwashing of my Dad
http://www.thebrainwashingofmydad.com

DSandra

(999 posts)
39. Fox News and Right Wing Radio deserve to burn in hell
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 04:10 PM
Sep 2020

These propaganda masters combined are destroying this country. Both of them flourished after the repeal of the fairness doctrine.

Kaleva

(36,363 posts)
42. The Murdoch's tapped into a market that as already there
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 06:11 PM
Sep 2020

People are going to watch or listen to what reinforces their world view.

Hitler didn't create the conditions that enabled his rise to power. There was an audience in inter-war Germany that wanted to hear and believe what someone like Hitler had to say. That audience didn't exist in Imperial Germany or post-WWII Germany.

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