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Nasa is looking for private companies to help mine the moon (Original Post) sl8 Sep 2020 OP
Wtaf? SheltieLover Sep 2020 #1
How else is he going to funnel money to his donor buddies or his own son-in-law? Claustrum Sep 2020 #3
🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 SheltieLover Sep 2020 #4
I don't trust anything if Trump is behind, but in and of itself, what's wrong... Silent3 Sep 2020 #10
I hope you aren't serious SheltieLover Sep 2020 #11
I'm completely serious Silent3 Sep 2020 #12
These companies have been working toward such goals LunaSea Sep 2020 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author SheltieLover Sep 2020 #2
Mountain top removal on the moon no doubt nt doc03 Sep 2020 #5
Well that will put Wisconsin cheese farmers out of business!! tavernier Sep 2020 #6
They will probably fill up the extraction holes with plastic waste now that Tanuki Sep 2020 #7
but, but, but...nuclear waste could maybe somehow re-charge itself Backseat Driver Sep 2020 #9
WTF? Are there no failed AI robots available for the mining tasks? Backseat Driver Sep 2020 #8
maybe for water ice, the moon is just rock! The asteroids are where the gold is! Baclava Sep 2020 #13
Why would you think these asteroids LunaSea Sep 2020 #14
Strip mining the moons for bits and pieces when you can get a solid metal body just floating around? Baclava Sep 2020 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2020 #21
No need for strip mining. LunaSea Sep 2020 #22
I was thinking nuclear pulse rockets, exploding small nukes for propulsion Baclava Sep 2020 #23
Popular idea LunaSea Sep 2020 #24
Well, you'd just devalue gold a lot :) Silent3 Sep 2020 #16
That's OK, just give me a thousand tons of gold and I'll pave my driveway with it, just for giggles Baclava Sep 2020 #19
We are many decades away from this being a profitable venture for them. cbdo2007 Sep 2020 #15
I suspect the infrastructure Retrograde Sep 2020 #20
That is probably true...but still I would guess 30 years before we are realistically seeing a mining cbdo2007 Sep 2020 #25
That should be a top national priority dalton99a Sep 2020 #26

Silent3

(15,261 posts)
10. I don't trust anything if Trump is behind, but in and of itself, what's wrong...
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 02:48 PM
Sep 2020

...with mining the moon?

It doesn't have an ecosystem that can be disturbed. It's a dead rock in space. As long as no one is using the moon as a giant billboard in space, fouling up the beauty of the night sky, what does it matter?

Silent3

(15,261 posts)
12. I'm completely serious
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 03:06 PM
Sep 2020

And why wouldn't I be?

I hope your comeback isn't something like "Haven't we messed up the earth enough without messing up the moon too?", because if it is, you're just reacting emotionally without thinking about the real issues.

LunaSea

(2,895 posts)
18. These companies have been working toward such goals
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 03:55 PM
Sep 2020

for decades. While the Spanky admin has focused NASA away from Mars and back toward the moon, I know of no connections
with Spanky and his pals having worked on lunar projects with a couple of the entities listed.

The most valuable stuff on the moon is the water ice at the poles. If we can learn to extract water, oxygen and fuel from the lunar environment we have a good chance of opening up the resources of the entire inner system.

Response to sl8 (Original post)

Tanuki

(14,920 posts)
7. They will probably fill up the extraction holes with plastic waste now that
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 02:33 PM
Sep 2020

developing countries are cracking down on being used as first world dumping grounds.

Backseat Driver

(4,394 posts)
9. but, but, but...nuclear waste could maybe somehow re-charge itself
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 02:43 PM
Sep 2020

in a few million/zillion light years if left on the surface?

Backseat Driver

(4,394 posts)
8. WTF? Are there no failed AI robots available for the mining tasks?
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 02:37 PM
Sep 2020

Hey, here's an idea - land a certain few "lunatics" there and collect the "cowpiles" from the #2 process.. In 4+ years, we'd have enough sustainable energy to fuel EVERYTHING we've ever needed.

Moo with me! Oops, that would involve methane gas escaping from the ruminating comunication process

HELP - Houston, we (meaning, you) have a problem!

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
13. maybe for water ice, the moon is just rock! The asteroids are where the gold is!
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 03:09 PM
Sep 2020

Asteroid mining! Fuck yeah!


Gigantic golden asteroid could make everyone on Earth a billionaire

The asteroid – known as 16 Psyche – has a mass of less than 1% of our moon and it contains heaps of platinum, iron and nickel alongside the gold. The combined total value of all those precious metals would equal out at something like $700 quintillion.



https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/27/gigantic-golden-asteroid-make-everyone-earth-billionaire-10075724/#:~:text=An%20asteroid%20that's%20filled%20with,and%20nickel%20alongside%20the%20gold.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
17. Strip mining the moons for bits and pieces when you can get a solid metal body just floating around?
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 03:54 PM
Sep 2020

Yeah, asteroid mining is the future, send in the drilling prospecting robots!

And we can use the asteroids as spaceships, hollow out a habitat, strap a nuclear rocket to it and blast off to the stars!

I have big plans.

Response to Baclava (Reply #17)

LunaSea

(2,895 posts)
22. No need for strip mining.
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 04:04 PM
Sep 2020

It's on the surface. Just hunt them in infrared just after sunset.

Nuclear steam rockets would be very effective assuming you are allowed to lift one from the earths surface.
But they will never be fast enough for interstellar travel.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
23. I was thinking nuclear pulse rockets, exploding small nukes for propulsion
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 04:24 PM
Sep 2020


Nuclear-pulse drive launch vehicle seriously developed by General Atomics in the United States from 1955-1965. The design allowed vast payloads of hundreds of tons to be hurled to the planets. By 1958 the Orion team saw themselves in direct competition with Von Braun's chemical rockets. They hoped to a land a huge manned expedition on Mars by 1964 and tour the moons of Saturn by 1970. However politically NASA would not argue for the exception to the 1963 Nuclear Test Ban Treaty necessary to allow firing of nuclear explosions in space.



only instead of a rocket, a small asteroid as vehicle



LunaSea

(2,895 posts)
24. Popular idea
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 04:52 PM
Sep 2020

Ain't gonna happen.
You remember how difficult it is to launch an RTG with a few specks of plutonium onboard?
Nobody would agree to launching 100s of nuclear weapons to orbit.
NERVA style steam is better, and the icy moons and comets have all the fuel you need.

Silent3

(15,261 posts)
16. Well, you'd just devalue gold a lot :)
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 03:52 PM
Sep 2020

Once it's not that rare, the value would plummet.

But it would still be a great thing, since gold is a very useful material.

Actually, the Earth has so much gold that if you brought it all to the surface, we'd be knee-deep in gold. The problem is that it's totally impractical to get at nearly all of it. As difficult and expensive as it is right now to get to an asteroid, that's a breeze compared to extracting anything for deep within the Earth.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
19. That's OK, just give me a thousand tons of gold and I'll pave my driveway with it, just for giggles
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 03:56 PM
Sep 2020

Retrograde

(10,152 posts)
20. I suspect the infrastructure
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 03:58 PM
Sep 2020

will be paid for by us - the research, the rockets, the landers, the rovers, the return trips - the taxpayers will foot the bill and GOP donors will pocket the profits. It's always easier to make money if someone else finances all the risk.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
25. That is probably true...but still I would guess 30 years before we are realistically seeing a mining
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 10:03 AM
Sep 2020

operation on the Moon.

I do support the idea and it sounds super cool as an astronomer, to see buildings up there...wow, it just seems like we are a significantly long way off.

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