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Nevilledog

(51,218 posts)
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 01:55 PM Sep 2020

"I think Trump and his campaign are both broke."




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1. I think Trump and his campaign are both broke. FEC filings should be in about a week. I think we may see Trump is short paying vendors. The big one in his filings is American Made Media Consultants, LLC. I don't know anything about them so I would not be surprised if that's

2. a Trump family related entity but they are by far the largest recipient of disbursements in the July 31 filing. Then Ace Specialties and Amex. We always believe everything Trump says when logic would say that is unwise. What if the reason he pulled his ads was because he was

3. put on cash & carry by the vendors? Here is an article about that big vendor. Says it's an @NRA front.

Trump Campaign Used Shell Companies For Ad Buys -

Trump Campaign Used Shell Companies For Ad Buys | PYMNTS.com
Truthout is reporting that the Trump 2020 campaign paid shell companies related to ad buyers who are part of a purported plan with the NRA.
https://www.pymnts.com/news/security-and-risk/2019/trump-campaign-nra-ad-buys/

4. Who's going to tell Putin Donald's low on cash?
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5. Here's the corporate registration. American Made Media, LLC Formed in Delaware on April 19, 2018. bizapedia.com/de/american-ma…

6. In 2020, that shell entity has received $155,389,846.

Vendor/Recipient Profile: American Made Media Consultants
American Made Media Consultants received $217,106,069 in reported payments during the 2020 election cycle so far. See a list of their customers.
https://www.opensecrets.org/campaign-expenditures/vendor?cycle=2020&vendor=American+Made+Media+Consultants

7. I wonder if the link between Trump campaign and the folks doing NRA's media booking has drawn Trump into the NRA's NY State nightmare? Bet @NewYorkStateAG knows. 😎
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"I think Trump and his campaign are both broke." (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2020 OP
Most Interesting, Ma'am The Magistrate Sep 2020 #1
What? Trump stiffing vendors? Outrageous. Shocking. Inconceivable !! C_U_L8R Sep 2020 #2
Their business model has never done business with anyone who wants paid in full up front. KS Toronado Sep 2020 #28
Would Explain why he is using White house and Air Force One to do his rally's ace3csusm Sep 2020 #3
NRA? The org Russia uses to launder money to the GOP? Kid Berwyn Sep 2020 #4
"Im so sorry, your card was declined, sir. Do you perhaps have another you'd like to use?" RGTIndy Sep 2020 #5
Danish PM saw his credit report when he tried buying Greenland. She laughed irisblue Sep 2020 #25
I've just now gotten around to.. stillcool Sep 2020 #6
They said the same thing in 16. Unless puttie has decided dotard is toast, I'm sure he'll fix it Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #7
Trump is a useful idiot to Putin. Initech Sep 2020 #8
Yup! Let's hope dotard is toast. Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #19
Yeah, a Trump with actual brains. We'd be moonscape Sep 2020 #24
Thankfully I don't see anyone like that in the GOP that could be a threat for now. Initech Sep 2020 #27
Let me say this, Wellstone ruled Sep 2020 #9
Not surprising. Nevilledog Sep 2020 #12
Time to squash him jeffreyi Sep 2020 #10
Trump is not only broke, he's hundreds of millions of dollars in debt. GoCubsGo Sep 2020 #11
+1000000 crickets Sep 2020 #13
Wasn't he sinking financially when he was elected? Being POTUS moonscape Sep 2020 #26
Tя☭mp Is not broke NOW. He WAS broke ... Whiskeytide Sep 2020 #14
This is too delicious. Maru Kitteh Sep 2020 #15
And then some malaise Sep 2020 #18
The Great Business man, NO! Trump BIZ Guinness StClone Sep 2020 #22
Broke? No. Stashed or hoarded $$$ is more like it. nt live love laugh Sep 2020 #16
There's this too maryellen99 Sep 2020 #17
... Nevilledog Sep 2020 #20
Ivanka and Jared got $40 million. BigmanPigman Sep 2020 #21
THIS is like the Trump boat parade on Lake Travis TX recently. Trump boats are sinking & Illumination Sep 2020 #23
I shall kick Trump while he is down by putting a little extra into my donations this month rurallib Sep 2020 #29
And THAT is the reason he doesnt want to release his taxes. oldsoftie Sep 2020 #30
Well, both are morally bankrupt VWolf Sep 2020 #31
American Made Media GopherGal Sep 2020 #32

C_U_L8R

(45,022 posts)
2. What? Trump stiffing vendors? Outrageous. Shocking. Inconceivable !!
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 02:01 PM
Sep 2020

Note to anyone silly enough to do business with Trumps : get paid in full up front

ace3csusm

(969 posts)
3. Would Explain why he is using White house and Air Force One to do his rally's
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 02:02 PM
Sep 2020

Interesting that he hasnt booked a location to host his rally's ...

Kid Berwyn

(14,990 posts)
4. NRA? The org Russia uses to launder money to the GOP?
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 02:07 PM
Sep 2020
Top NRA officials knew Russians were using ties to NRA to establish connection with next US President, report says

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/27/politics/nra-russians-ties-president-2016-election/index.html

Small world.
 

RGTIndy

(203 posts)
5. "Im so sorry, your card was declined, sir. Do you perhaps have another you'd like to use?"
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 02:08 PM
Sep 2020

Run it again! Goddamnit, run it again! I know it's good. I just used it this morning to buy Greenland.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
6. I've just now gotten around to..
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 02:08 PM
Sep 2020

reading "Dark Towers". I can't imagine going through as much money as he has, in one lifetime.

Initech

(100,107 posts)
8. Trump is a useful idiot to Putin.
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 02:17 PM
Sep 2020

He's useful until Putin decides he's no longer necessary. At that point, like most useful idiots, he will be cast aside. And that could very easily be the case here. Trump will be a useful idiot to Putin until somebody much scarier comes along.

Thekaspervote

(32,806 posts)
19. Yup! Let's hope dotard is toast.
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 03:40 PM
Sep 2020

Your comment about the next one...point well taken. We will have to on guard for a decade or more. They’ll keep coming if we don’t stop them

Initech

(100,107 posts)
27. Thankfully I don't see anyone like that in the GOP that could be a threat for now.
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 04:22 PM
Sep 2020

At least in the foreseeable future. The only thing I could see is if one of those Q Anon morons started gaining real power after any election, that could do some serious damage. But I hope we can keep those morons at bay for now. And they will eventually go back to the basement from which they came.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
9. Let me say this,
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 02:19 PM
Sep 2020

my last Employer had all of the Trump Companies rated at 120 days slow pay. And that matched what Dunn and Bradstreet Carried Trump Business at that same credit worthiness.

My Regional VP Said Trump Payment checks usually were printed on Rubber and bounced like a Tennis Ball.

GoCubsGo

(32,096 posts)
11. Trump is not only broke, he's hundreds of millions of dollars in debt.
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 02:19 PM
Sep 2020

Mostly to Putin and the Saudis. Which is why he's so beholden to them, and to to his country. He also likely owes a crap-ton in back taxes to the IRS, and the Departments of Revenue of every state where owns property, as well. I can't wait until the feds and states start confiscating those assets once he and his putrid family are all convicted.

Whiskeytide

(4,463 posts)
14. Tя☭mp Is not broke NOW. He WAS broke ...
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 02:32 PM
Sep 2020

... when he ran for president. He ran to soften some of his debt to Russian interests. I fully think the initial plan was that Jeb would get the nomination, and Tя☭mp would stay in the race long past his expiration date just try to damage HRC enough to let Jeb win.

Tя☭mp gathering a following and then winning the nomination surprised everyone (not by the time it actually happened, but in the build up). Of course that pleased the Russian interests, but still no one then expected he could win the GE. (They didn’t fully appreciate (1) the stupidity of the US electorate, and (2) the power of the Russian interference). So the plan was still to damage Clinton as much as possible to de-legitimize her administration. This is why there was not a lot of thought put into his campaign, and they did shit no one would have ever dared do - because even they didn’t think of themselves as legitimate contenders. It was a con job.

Then he won. I suspect now he has been rewarded handsomely for fucking up American democracy. The problem is that it’s all stashed away in offshore accounts and IOUs, etc... for now. His campaign can’t get to it and he can’t get to it, without raising suspicions. This fits his MO because, given a choice of having cash dumped into his campaign Via shell companies or donors - or dumped into his offshore rainy day fund, he’ll choose himself every time.

Also why he doesn’t want his tax returns released - because it would expose how broke he was and reveal the con.

So he’s not broke. He’s just starving his campaign to pad his own accounts. And many of the usual republican donors are shying away from him (just look at the polls). He’s becoming toxic to the usual suspects, and he’s hoarding all the unusual cash for himself. JMHO.

StClone

(11,688 posts)
22. The Great Business man, NO! Trump BIZ Guinness
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 04:02 PM
Sep 2020

Is Not going broke and has not pissed away 1.1 Billion of his campaign coffers. No way. Irony not! Well maybe.

BigmanPigman

(51,638 posts)
21. Ivanka and Jared got $40 million.
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 03:55 PM
Sep 2020

Last night MSNBC implied that there is a $40 million amount that is "unaccounted for" and the money had to get approval from Jarvanka in order to their LLCs providing services to the reelection campaign (aka their personal bank account).

 

Illumination

(2,458 posts)
23. THIS is like the Trump boat parade on Lake Travis TX recently. Trump boats are sinking &
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 04:13 PM
Sep 2020

maybe Trump is sinking like the Titanic!...And the band played on!...

rurallib

(62,462 posts)
29. I shall kick Trump while he is down by putting a little extra into my donations this month
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 04:28 PM
Sep 2020

I am sure Joe & Kamala will know what to do with it.

oldsoftie

(12,628 posts)
30. And THAT is the reason he doesnt want to release his taxes.
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 04:50 PM
Sep 2020

He doesnt want us to know he's not as "rich" as he says he is.

GopherGal

(2,010 posts)
32. American Made Media
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 10:35 PM
Sep 2020

I read that name somewhere earlier today and remembered it because I was struck by the irony given the manufacturing locations for the Orangutan's and his Princess's goods.

That firm, American Made Media Consultants, has been used to place television and digital ads and was the subject of a recent Federal Election Commission complaint arguing it was used to disguise the final destination of spending, which has included paychecks to Lara Trump and Kimberly Guilfoyle, the partners of Trump’s two adult sons.


[link:https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-billion-dollar-campaign-lost-120121777.html?ncid=facebook_yahoonewsf_akfmevaatca|]

Must be a bummer for Tiffany's poor BF who has to feel bad being the only one who has to sleep with a Trump and not get paid for it.
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