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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI awakened this morning with the overwhelming urge to say this:
I spent my formative years in a progressive family: My mother worked at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard during WWII and my father served four years in the Pacific theater working his way up to the Philippines and preparing for the ground invasion of Japan In which he almost certainly would have died. . Both parents were incredibly committed to the sanctity of the country and the human race. I have often written about them here because although flawed In many ways, they were true patriotic Americans who wanted only what was best for the country and for its people.
My parents were vociferously anti-Vietnam war demonstrators and activists, to the extent my father could be an activist as he was a federal employee. There were two things however which were sacrosanct And never to be questioned in a hostile sense. The first was that you do not perform or counsel traitorous behavior to your country under any circumstances. The second was that you never disparage honorable service men or women who are veterans, have injuries, have died in the line of duty, and especially those who have lost family members in the service of their country.
A couple Years ago I related a story wherein my mother had this ongoing fight with this woman down the block who was pro Vietnam war and had sent her children off to the military. One of the children died in the line of duty, And my mother sat me down and said OK no more, shes suffered enough - She has lost a child and Im not contributing to that horror. She has her opinions and her beliefs and she lost a child due in no small part to them and she needs to live with that but she does not need me to remind her of it. True to her word, she treated her very gently and with dignity from that time forward.
My point is, Albeit wordy, That even in my household where in vociferous discussions would take place as to the demerits of various people, politicians, friends, family members, and just about anybody else who crossed our paths, we would never ever disparage our national service people of any stripe, Especially those in military. There was a tacit assumption that although the mission maybe misdirected, the vast number of soldiers were to some fair degree honorable and loyal to their country, and willing to sacrifice their lives and limbs literally, for it.
I can only imagine the disgust my parents would exhibit if they had read the story in the Atlantic last night. Its a disgrace to the human race.
magicarpet
(14,155 posts)Phoenix61
(17,006 posts)I especially like the way your mother talked to you about the woman down the street.
KS Toronado
(17,259 posts)dalton99a
(81,516 posts)The fucker is going to get what's coming to him. His karma bucket overflows...and it ain't good karma.
Soon. We will have the pleasure of seeing. Actually, I believe it's already begun and he is piling on more bad karma.
Fuck tRump!
niyad
(113,348 posts)dawn5651
(604 posts)we had many many draft dodgers in the area i grew up in....in all the while i was around them not one of them said anything negative about their country or those serving....i am so disgusted by the atlantic article and i am canadian...i can't imagine the level of disgust americans must feel those that believe he said it anyways.
GoneOffShore
(17,340 posts)iluvtennis
(19,863 posts)northoftheborder
(7,572 posts)The scene and comments in Arlington Cemetery in the company of the father of the dead soldiers is just unbelievable.
c-rational
(2,594 posts)bluescribbler
(2,117 posts)My paternal grandfather served in the 101st infantry, Yankee Division, Ma National guard during WWI He was one of the men in the trenches. I have his Purple Heart. Both of my maternal grandparents worked at the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard from WWII until they retired in the 1960s. My dad and uncle served in the Army in the Pacific Theater and dad's cousin was a lieutenant in the Marines. Cousin died on Guadalcanal. I joined the Navy during the Vietnam War, much to my parent's dismay. I did two cruises to WestPac and made it home safely. This pResident's outright disrespect of people's service and patriotism infuriates me. I am just grateful that my parents and grandparents did not live to see this piece of garbage in a position of power.
N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,736 posts)The bounties I thought were the worst he could do. This scandal is beyond belief.
Illumination
(2,458 posts)its institutions! No doubt your parents have instilled good moral character in you. Thank you for your post.
PCIntern
(25,556 posts)Yeah....to a point...
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Illumination
(2,458 posts)PCIntern
(25,556 posts)Military-industrial complex of which Ike warned us.
mercuryblues
(14,532 posts)Every day since this fucking disgrace took the oath of office, I wake up wondering if he started a war over a twitter spat.
I know he has no respect for those that serve, he is willing to send them to their certain deaths on a whim. With no consideration of the destruction he will cause. He is simply incapable of any thought beyond how his hair looks.
Some days I make it though after reading headlines, without the nagging worry creeping in. Other days, like this one I feel like my body is on the wrong side out. Everything horrid he has done comes crashing through all at once and now, there is no where to go to find solace because...Covid.
So here I sit at my kitchen table counting the days. I can not even entertain the notion that fuck face will win. Biden has to win.