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Voter registration FRAUD at a Safeway in Colorado...WOW! (Original Post) AzSweet Sep 2012 OP
Holy Shit!!. es MUY illegal kiddo!. . attention must be paid. annabanana Sep 2012 #1
I know..right? Talk about election fraud! n/t AzSweet Sep 2012 #2
Ummm... I will kick this until it cries. Isn't Colorado a contested state?. . .n/t annabanana Sep 2012 #3
Being paid by the county clerk to register only Romney supporters??? Really... DURHAM D Sep 2012 #4
Ackety. lonestarnot Sep 2012 #5
We had voter registration at a local grocery yesterday too! revolution breeze Sep 2012 #6
Oh I'm all FOR registration, generally. annabanana Sep 2012 #7
Sorry revolution breeze Sep 2012 #13
I'll have to watch the news tonight randr Sep 2012 #8
Here it is RandiFan1290 Sep 2012 #9
thanks. . . n/t annabanana Sep 2012 #10
Wow! NancyDL Sep 2012 #53
The infamous, viral Honey Bunch video Coyotl Sep 2012 #57
Link only works for me if you choose Desktop. philly_bob Sep 2012 #11
Wow! Hope the person drove straight to local TV station and asked to see News Director. mnhtnbb Sep 2012 #12
Unflipping-believable! Cass Sep 2012 #14
It sounds to me Control-Z Sep 2012 #16
That girl doesn't even GET the implications of what she was asked to do Rose Siding Sep 2012 #15
They obviously picked a bunch of young kids Warpy Sep 2012 #43
KICK KICK KICK n/t onecent Sep 2012 #17
Kick N/T mecherosegarden Sep 2012 #18
Wow!!! WinstonSmith4740 Sep 2012 #19
Hold on, there! madamesilverspurs Sep 2012 #37
Don't doubt you at all. WinstonSmith4740 Sep 2012 #49
Woah! blaze Sep 2012 #20
El Paso County Panasonic Sep 2012 #31
Oh somebody/bodies are going to be in a whole lot of trouble. nc4bo Sep 2012 #21
There was another post about the Koch bros. putting money into getting out the vote Frustratedlady Sep 2012 #22
kick Aeroette Sep 2012 #23
k AND r until this gets picked up by the networks DonRedwood Sep 2012 #24
Maybe you should change your headline to include the word "fraud" to get more eyeballs... beac Sep 2012 #25
kick and agree with this ^^^^ Kali Sep 2012 #29
Exactly. I thought this was a feel-good story, not about fraud. Indpndnt Sep 2012 #35
"I believe the County Clerk is paying me."????? cr8tvlde Sep 2012 #26
Outrageous! n/t reflection Sep 2012 #27
I Sent to ColoradoPols and KCNC otohara Sep 2012 #28
Send it to KUSA too Panasonic Sep 2012 #34
It's Up on KUSA otohara Sep 2012 #50
Get ready for a bunch more of this!!! ruffburr Sep 2012 #30
Is this something that needs to be shared with federal attorneys? aquart Sep 2012 #32
Just for those who really paid her. She's clearly young and clueless but... cr8tvlde Sep 2012 #38
Sending it to the local news Samjm Sep 2012 #33
Done mfcorey1 Sep 2012 #40
Could someone send this to Rachel Maddow? I am not a speedy computer onecent Sep 2012 #36
from Colorado locks Sep 2012 #39
I have a problem rtracey Sep 2012 #41
Sounds like blatant out and out illegality to me what Honey Bunch did. I have ZERO problem progree Sep 2012 #42
We are pushing for an investigation into this RandiFan1290 Sep 2012 #55
Wow! E-mailing to others as we speak! WinkyDink Sep 2012 #44
Craigslist job posting - "identify conservative and Republican voters and ask them to register" Jane Eyre Sep 2012 #45
I've read the whole thread here and I'm wondering just one thing that hasn't been brought up yet... kayakjohnny Sep 2012 #46
hard for me to believe she's working for the county clerk's office. if so, incredibly corrupt, not HiPointDem Sep 2012 #52
re-kick! annabanana Sep 2012 #47
I posted something the other day that I was told by a friend in Colorado davidpdx Sep 2012 #48
Hats off to the patriot who confronted the hottie-bait "registrar" upi402 Sep 2012 #51
K&R VenusRising Sep 2012 #54
One must ask, "How is the County Clerk involved." Coyotl Sep 2012 #56
Oh holy crap! wildeyed Sep 2012 #58

DURHAM D

(32,611 posts)
4. Being paid by the county clerk to register only Romney supporters??? Really...
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 02:51 PM
Sep 2012

Honey bunch doesn't know who (or lied about who) is paying her.

revolution breeze

(879 posts)
6. We had voter registration at a local grocery yesterday too!
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 02:52 PM
Sep 2012

It is an independently owned grocery. I was there for two hours. It did surprise me how many people of all ages and all colors had never been registered to vote.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
7. Oh I'm all FOR registration, generally.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 02:54 PM
Sep 2012

But if this kid is being paid by a County Clerk and being instructed to only register Republicans, well..that's a very big no-no.

revolution breeze

(879 posts)
13. Sorry
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 03:16 PM
Sep 2012

I posted before I saw the video. I would have called the Sheriff to take a report and then submitted the report to the Secretary of State as well as the local Obama/Biden headquarters on Monday morning. I hope someone does that with this video!!!!

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
57. The infamous, viral Honey Bunch video
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:01 AM
Sep 2012

even though we still have almost no real information of the truth of the situation. But expect a lot of people to be sympathetic to a young woman working her first job ever.

Cass

(2,600 posts)
14. Unflipping-believable!
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 03:20 PM
Sep 2012

The kid was kind of hesitant when asked who was paying her.

Maybe it was a scam to get people's identities? Whatever it is, it needs to be investigated.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
16. It sounds to me
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 04:01 PM
Sep 2012

like they are using the "polling" question (to see who one would vote for) as a way around asking straight out if someone is republican or a democrat. If the answer is Obama she probably says thank you very much and moves on to the next person. If the answer is romney she then begins registration.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
15. That girl doesn't even GET the implications of what she was asked to do
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 03:36 PM
Sep 2012

I gotta head over to some Obama campaign threads to get myself outta THIS funk

Warpy

(111,327 posts)
43. They obviously picked a bunch of young kids
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 07:15 PM
Sep 2012

because young kids don't know the kind of trouble they're in.

Either she was barely smart enough to fib (which is what it looked like to me, this smells strongly of church youth group) or the county clerk is going to be in big trouble.

This is worth watching to see how this continues to develop.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
19. Wow!!!
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 04:28 PM
Sep 2012

Obviously, this poor kid doesn't know what's going on. I'm sure she's just trying to pick up extra cash, and is repeating what she was told to say if anyone asked her who she was working for.

When I did that for the Democrats, they told us we HAD to register anyone who wanted to be registered, but we didn't have to make it "easy" for Republicans. Basically, we were told not to ask about party affiliation, BUT if the person mentioned it, and a dem wanted to register, do it on site, hold onto the form and turn it in at the end of the day. If they were Bush voters, just hand them the form, show them how to fill it out, and tell them mail it in. Admittedly, a little marginal, but we were flat out told it was illegal to refuse to register Republicans. Also, if they insisted on doing it right there, then just let them and turn those forms in with the rest.

They're just pathetic.

madamesilverspurs

(15,806 posts)
37. Hold on, there!
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 05:40 PM
Sep 2012

I'm a Democrat in Colorado. When we do voter registration we most certainly DO NOT do it that way.

For one thing, it's ILLEGAL, not to mention unethical.

We bend over backward to treat every applicant with equal consideration, regardless of their party choice.

And the forms are numbered, we have to account for them. They are NEVER just handed to the applicant to mail, we are required to turn them in through a specific process.

It is NEVER a matter of if they insisted on doing it right there. If they want to use the forms we have with us - forms that do not belong to us but to the state - they MUST complete them while in our presence, we then give them their copy and turn the original over to the state.

If they want to register privately, we give them the web address where they can do that.

If we deviate from these processes, there are very significant fines and penalties.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
49. Don't doubt you at all.
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:57 AM
Sep 2012

I'm going back to 1988 with this...it was the Dukakis vs. Poppy in California. Like I said, we weren't told NOT to register anyone, or to even ask how they wanted to register. You could register by mail in Cali, so we just gave them the forms and told them to send it in. There were no separate carbon copies for us to hold on to, no numbers on the forms, no copies to give them...just a stub at the bottom. The process was the same whether they picked up a form at their local Post Office, or from us in front of a supermarket.

My point was that this young lady was obviously told to only register Republicans, or those supporting Romney in this election. The only question we were told to ask is "Are you registered to vote?"

blaze

(6,368 posts)
20. Woah!
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 04:30 PM
Sep 2012

I wonder if there's anyway to find out which Safeway it was?

The woman taping the exchanged certainly seemed appropriately outraged so, hopefully, she will take some action with her recording.

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
31. El Paso County
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 05:29 PM
Sep 2012

Colorado Springs, Fundieland.

If it's *that* bad to try to register Republicans for Rmoney, then it does not bode well for Rmoney's chances here.

Not since the Waldo Canyon Fire.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
21. Oh somebody/bodies are going to be in a whole lot of trouble.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 04:32 PM
Sep 2012

I really hope they can hunt down the ones behind this..........I'm extremely curious.

I keep thinking, the less attention that is drawn to Republican's tactics, the more emboldened they will become.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
22. There was another post about the Koch bros. putting money into getting out the vote
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 04:45 PM
Sep 2012

and hitting it hard in swing states, so maybe that's who paid her. If it was the County Clerk's office, someone could be in big trouble.

I don't have the link, but it was posted today or late last night.

beac

(9,992 posts)
25. Maybe you should change your headline to include the word "fraud" to get more eyeballs...
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 05:20 PM
Sep 2012

I didn't click on this the first several times I saw it on this b/c I assumed it was just a nice pic of a voter registration drive.

Might get more attention if people realized up front that this is NOT a good "WOW!"

Indpndnt

(2,391 posts)
35. Exactly. I thought this was a feel-good story, not about fraud.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 05:32 PM
Sep 2012

I almost didn't click, either. The OP will get more eyes on this by changing the thread title.

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
26. "I believe the County Clerk is paying me."?????
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 05:22 PM
Sep 2012

Thank you, Safeway shopper, for your bit of community service.

ruffburr

(1,190 posts)
30. Get ready for a bunch more of this!!!
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 05:28 PM
Sep 2012

This is how they plan to win through voter manipulation across the board, BEWARE, THEY WILL STOP AT NOTHING!! VOTE !!

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
38. Just for those who really paid her. She's clearly young and clueless but...
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 05:47 PM
Sep 2012

I think she got some free education from somebody's mother about our free society that she likely won't forget.

onecent

(6,096 posts)
36. Could someone send this to Rachel Maddow? I am not a speedy computer
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 05:35 PM
Sep 2012

user....technology is losing this senior citizen.

locks

(2,012 posts)
39. from Colorado
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 05:59 PM
Sep 2012

Need to get more info. This kid is probably not being paid by the County Clerk's office, only turning in completed registration forms and has been sent to the site by Repubs. What we do as Dems is get past voting information on each person if we are going to the homes and help them to register or to change their registration. I do not know that you have to register them at a public site, you may give them information and have them register online. If they have voted Dem before we ask them how they intend to vote and answer questions; they will be contacted later by another Dem. But we try hard not to get into any kind of argument and refer them to the Colorado voter site and the Blue Book for more help. And having worked for the League of Women Voters for many years I try to remember that what we really want is for all Americans (especially those who have not voted before) to learn as much as possible about the candidates and issues and then vote.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
41. I have a problem
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 06:45 PM
Sep 2012

Why was this lady videotaping this. Sounds a little like the ACORN tapes too me. It may be real, but I am not sure. I would need to hear from the woman recording the video, before I can suggest this tape.I originally posted to facebook, but it down right after....

progree

(10,911 posts)
42. Sounds like blatant out and out illegality to me what Honey Bunch did. I have ZERO problem
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 07:14 PM
Sep 2012

I would say the same thing if it was a Dem. trying to register only Democrats in the same way.

As for Breitbart and ACORN, that was a set-up and then the pieces of it were taken out of context to make it into something it was not. (On the other hand, if ACORN had really been trying to help sexually traffic Salvadoran teens, I would be cheering Breitbart at the top of my lungs).

Back to the Honey Bunch case. I'm guessing the woman who recorded this heard from someone else what was happening and came up prepared with the "tape rolling". I would have done the EXACT SAME THING ABSOLUTELY WITH NO QUALMS WHATSOEVER IN THE LEAST.

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On Edit - I'm starting to wonder if its illegal or not (scary that this would be legal - well, if the county clerk was behind this, obviously it would be illegal, but I don't think that's likely to be the case) - See Jane Eyre's posting (#45). Would someone knowledgable really post a job on Craigslist to "identify conservative and Republican voters and ask them to register"?

Now I'm feeling kind of foolish about all my histrionics, maybe its just politics as usual and I'm just getting old and my old-fashioned values are getting old too. Sigh. (I can't find an emoticon that expresses my apologies for being so damn dumb and naive -- well this comes close ). I'm also starting to feel like Honey Bunch probably really is clueless so I do feel bad that she's the one being publicized and smeared rather than the greedbangers behind all this.

See also sister thread on the same tape for more comments -- http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021403098

Jane Eyre

(1,808 posts)
45. Craigslist job posting - "identify conservative and Republican voters and ask them to register"
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 07:20 PM
Sep 2012
http://charlotte.craigslist.org/gov/3241565025.html

Voter Registration Coordinator (Charlotte)

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Responsibilities:
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kayakjohnny

(5,235 posts)
46. I've read the whole thread here and I'm wondering just one thing that hasn't been brought up yet...
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 08:35 PM
Sep 2012

What if she just got it wrong and wasn't working for the county clerk and just got her wires crossed?

The tape looks awfully damning, unless she got a key piece of the info wrong.

Of course, it would be the MOST important piece of info.

If she just happened to be that much out of touch, then maybe there is a whole other side to the story.

It sure looks bad though.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
52. hard for me to believe she's working for the county clerk's office. if so, incredibly corrupt, not
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 01:45 AM
Sep 2012

to mention stupid, for the county clerk's office.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
48. I posted something the other day that I was told by a friend in Colorado
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:26 PM
Sep 2012

And most people though maybe he was lying. I'm starting to think maybe he wasn't, that it was the Republicans that are playing politics with voter registration.

Here it is verbatim:

"Interesting think happened to me today, I went to <name of grocery store redacted> today (a grocery store) and there was and individual outside trying to register voters. I am already registered to vote so I decided to mess with the guy as I approached. I told him I could not vote because I was on a student visa from Canada so I could not register. The guy told me that I could register because he could work it to where I could vote as long as I voted for Obama in the upcoming elections. I was amazed that someone would be so bold. He told me all I needed was the current address I was living at and he could get me registered. This makes me wonder what is really going on in this election."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=104324

upi402

(16,854 posts)
51. Hats off to the patriot who confronted the hottie-bait "registrar"
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 01:35 AM
Sep 2012

Republicans are absolute scumbag users. THEY are the voter fraud.

And the media traitors are silent.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
56. One must ask, "How is the County Clerk involved."
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 09:57 AM
Sep 2012

As a leading Republican and Mormon, is the County Clerk also involved in the partisan activity that this little girl is working for.

Why does she associate the County Clerk with her job? Is it because he is associated with her job?

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
58. Oh holy crap!
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 11:13 AM
Sep 2012

Someone did that to me in front of the drugstore the other day in Charlotte, NC..... Asked who I was voting for and when I said Obama, walked away. I thought it was some sort of in-person push poll and pretty pitiful to boot. I did not see them actually register any voters. If I had, I would have been ALL OVER them.

If I had been thinking AT ALL I would have said Romney just to see what they did next.

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