thousands of chickens died of hunger, thirst, sickness and heat exhaustion

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Anti-Kapporos crusaders are relaunching a legal attack against the Orthodox Jewish ritual — which involves slitting throats of tens of thousands of live chickens in the streets of New York City — arguing the novel coronavirus pandemic presents new evidence it’s harmful to human health.

“This is a real danger now that needs to be recognized,” attorney Nora Marino said. “It’s not about what could happen, it’s about what has happened.”

Marino, who represents the Alliance to End Chickens as Kaporos (the name has multiple accepted spellings) filed this month a motion to renew her case — struck down in 2018 by the New York Court of Appeals — and compel the NYPD to enforce Health Department codes she says are routinely broken during the pre-Yom Kippur atonement ritual.

In her motion, Marino argues the COVID-19 pandemic represents new evidence of the dangers of public animal slaughter, drawing comparisons to the wet markets of Wuhan where some scientists believe the pandemic started its spread, although the origin is still under investigation.

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The Kaporos ritual, which takes place on public streets in Brooklyn and elsewhere prior to Yom Kippur. Up to 100,000 live chickens are brought in packed crates and sacrificed to “cleanse the practitioner of sins.”

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[Me.]

1. In Public Streets...100,000 Live Chickens?

Do they clean up the blood?

[JI7]

2. Doesn't it depend on where the chickens come from ?

And how they get them ?

[rusty fender]

3. Fucking religionists!

They’ll be the death of us

[Igel]

4. Including those who

believe fervently that even animal life is sacred and should be respected.

Belief vs belief. But to the faithful, it's truth versus falsehood.

You should have heard the outcry from conservative Xians over the ritual killing of the goat for Eid. That ritual--and outcry--made the news for a year or two. Then it vanished from the national memory.

It still happens. Here's a story (minus the Xian outcry) from this year. https://sahanjournal.com/eid-al-adha/minnesota-eid-al-adha-halal-farm-slaughter/

I guess the difference must be not the killing but the location. Although I suspect that the OP outrage over location and public health is a pretext for the real issue: Every life is sacred. Which gets back to belief.

My take: Kill the chickens, make soup (or whatever they do with the chickens) and wash down the sidewalk or street. Problem solved.

[Coventina]

5. Either life matters or it doesn't. Saying that we occupy a privileged place in the

web of life is the religious position.

[appalachiablue]

6. What do they do with the chickens slaughtered for atonement?

..While Marino is among a select group focused on banning Kapporos, she is among a broader group of New Yorkers who worry about more than 80 live markets in New York City. Assembly member Linda Rosenthal and state Senator Luis Sepulveda both proposed legislation in May that would temporarily shutter the live markets — where chickens, rabbits, lamb and goats are selected and slaughtered on the spot — until the risk they pose can be studied.

..When you take into consideration the crisis this country is in now, we need to protect all communities,” Sepulveda said. “We need to make sure the Jewish community is protected.” NY Assembly member Simcha Eichenstein — who represents Borough Park, a neighborhood many in the Orthodox Jewish community call home, and is himself Hasidic — argued the ritual is just as sanitary as any other form of animal slaughter.
“When I look at why there may be more scrutiny on Kapparos than factory farming, it seems apparent that it is because Kapporos are in open sight versus factory farming which takes place behind closed doors,” Eichenstein said. “The fact remains that Kosher slaughter, as compared to factory slaughter, is much more humane.”

But infectious disease expert Dr. Stephen Baum, distinguished professor at Albert Einstein College of Medicine’s Department of Microbiology and Immunology, argued any point of contact between human and animal merits a closer look. Baum recalls with fondness the days his grandmother came home with a headless live market chicken, and has seen Kapporos provide comfort in the wards of his intensive care units, but he’s concerned about the increase in zoonotic infections, such as COVID-19, he’s witnessed over the course of several decades.

“The theme is that animals can carry infections and they are increasing from animals to humans,” Baum said. “I do really believe [the live market] represents a major health risk.” Baum urges New Yorkers to avoid live markets and Kapparos, noting the ritual of swinging chickens overhead could send aerosols into the air that are best avoided. While there are few known diseases transferred from fowl to human, one of them, avian flu, can be quite serious, Baum said. “I don’t think there is great danger in doing this,” Baum said. “But I think exposure to live birds is not a good thing.”..

[littlemissmartypants]

7. This is a disgusting and barbaric ritual on top of being a threat to public health and safety.

There has to be a way to curtail this antiquated barbarism. Freedom of religion should never trump public health.



❤lmsp

[LeftInTX]

8. Are chickens COVID 19 vectors?

[NickB79]

9. As long as they're eating them

Go crazy. I still butcher my own chickens that I breed and raise.

[Steelrolled]

10. They are comparing this to wet markets of Wuhan?

I would like to hear of the evidence behind that - it sounds like idle speculation from someone with an agenda.