While in California, Romney says Obama wants to make America "become California".

[Spitfire of ATJ]

Romney, at his fundraiser near San Diego, said Obama was "taking Americans on a course that is extremely foreign to us."

"One would suggest that government knows better than free people," he said. "It's a pathway to become like Europe, and Europe doesn't work there. It's never going to work here. It's even possible we could be on a pathway to become California - I don't want that either."

Read more here: http://www.bradenton.com/2012/09/22/4210936/obama-argues-against-romneys-top.html#storylink=cpy

[MgtPA]

1. Wait, he said this while IN California?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

10. I know,...it's absolute hell here...

[MgtPA]

12. I can see that!

[progressivebydesign]

33. aww you're making me homesick!! Luckily moving back there NEXT WEEK!! Yay!

I miss the beach so badly... Romney can take his car elevator and sell his La Jolla pad if it sucks that much. I still love California.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

37. I took in a woman (no strings) who walked out on her boyfriend and needed a place to crash...

She was all upset so after listening for a while I said, "Do you know what you need?"

She gave me a dirty look and said, "Okay, what do YOU think I need?" (thinking the obvious)

I said, "You need to go take a walk on the beach,...ALONE."

She looked at me like it was the last thing she had expected me to say.

She went all right and came back all reset and ready to go back and try to work things out.

Caught up with her a few years later and she's with another guy.

[classof56]

107. Nice photos! I'm an Oregonian and we've got some pretty cool beaches here, too.

My vote if R***** heads this way? Stop him at the border, check his papers and insist he self-deport to Mexico. With that tan of his, he's gotta be an "illegal", right? Too bad the space shuttle program is over. He'd be a perfect candidate for the next lift-off, preferably on a one-way trip.

I have a good friend who lives in Huntington Beach and he assures me it's awesome. Looks to me like they all are. Thanks for this video!

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

[99th_Monkey]

126. Hey Mitt!! I can't wait to be Californicated. ~nt

[Nikia]

18. That's just weird

It would make more sense if he were in another state. I guess that he wasn't really trying to win over any California voters by insulting their state.

[Indpndnt]

29. Willard was born to be a diplomat. Or the leader of a nation.

Well, he insulted London in London. California in California. A PA baker to his face.... The only people he has insulted behind closed doors include 47% of the country.

Willard needs to stay far, far away from diplomacy. And people. Far, far away from people. He needs to live alone on top of a mountain, somewhere. Without even a goat for company. That might be safe enough.

[Tigress DEM]

2. DOH!!

[bluestate10]

3. California.

Which pays a lion's share of federal, Social Security and Medicare taxes to support the red state idiots that are falling over themselves to vote for Romney. Which has one of the top ten economies in the world. Which has produced a lion's share of out technical innovation for the last fifty years. Romney is an idiot.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

4. "Romney is an idiot"

I've been saying that for a while.

[MADem]

127. Oh, but they've got their forty seven percent moochers too, doncha know!

Mitt only likes the "corporations" that are people in CA, apparently...



Mitt just can't stop crapping out his mouth, can he?

[JHB]

5. So he warned Californians that they might become like California?

This is the second time in the space of a week we've been reminded that the "savvy investors" he raises funds from are just as low-information as any teabagger with signs that make spelling-bee students cry.

[Indpndnt]

30. Oh, please.

With signs that make even Sesame Street viewers cry!

[Aristus]

6. My advice to Rmoney:

Quit the Presidential Campaign - NOW!

And run for the Presidency of Somalia. Should be a cinch. The office is currently vacant (just like your head), and they would really go for your economic outlook over there...

[ywcachieve]

60. Sonalia don't want, or need his a$$. They have enough problems as it is.

[TheDebbieDee]

7. What on Earth? What's wrong with being like California for cryin' out loud!

A course that is extremely foreign to whom?

Repukes talk really crazy shit, like when they say something like the United States may become like Europe. WTH? The current dominant culture of this country is composed of descendants of Europeans!

What the hell are they saying and why are they saying it? I think they just like to hear themselves talk and they like confrontation - that's the only way to explain the stooooo-pid stuff that comes out of their mouths.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

15. Haven't you heard? All of Europe has gone commie!

I guess California has gone commie too. Go up to any Right Winger and spout off countries, you'll see.

Canada? - Commie

England? - Commie

France? - Commie

Japan? - Commie

Australia? - Commie

All of Europe? - Commie

Then say this, "I thought you guys claimed Reagan won the Cold War. If the whole world went commie that sounds like he lost."

[aquart]

17. Oh, that is so mean!

I love it.

[Speck Tater]

8. Apparently there is no end to the supply of stupid he has on hand.

He must have a warehouse full of stupid somewhere, and whenever he runs low on stupid he calls up the warehouse and they ship him another truckload of stupid.

[sweettater]

70. That is soooooo funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Love it! Stupid is as stupid does.....................

[geckosfeet]

9. these repukians are such divisive bastards - always driving wedges

divisive bastards

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

11. The Beverly Hillbillies were evil subversives for moving to that immoral communistic

Beverly Hills, with that Yourapeein style ce-ment pond and fancy eatin' table. That Mr. Drysdale was a greedy socialist.

[IggleDoer]

13. If he hates California so much ...

... Why is he building a home there, complete with a car elevator?

[muntrv]

14. So why does Mitt The Twit have a house there?

[bluestate10]

61. Good point. I have wondered why Romney didn't buy a house.

On the Louisiana coast, or the Mississippi coast, or the Alabama coast, or the north Florida coast. The people in all those places are mostly republican voting Romney people. If Romney lived in those places he would not have to be an ass and ridicule his neighbors. Romney chose California because life there is better than any of the places that I listed. Another gem from the flip-flopper in chief.

[Bassettman]

16. 0. Romney says Obama wants to make America "become California".

Romney needs to sell his mansion and move away from California

[Cleita]

39. Or, we Californians need to find a reason to kick him out.

I know, let's make him and the rest of the out-of-state multi-millionaires squatting here enjoying our benefits pay extra taxes for the privilege.

[Angry Dragon]

19. However Willard has no problem having a $11.2 million house there

the Willard is a bunch of bananas short

[flamingdem]

20. Rmoney has a great habit of putting down the people he is speaking with!

MORAN

[mick063]

21. Why did he even go on Univision?

If he had said Detroit, everyone would immediately recognize the "dog whistle". Indeed, that is why the GOP no longer uses Detroit (they commonly did at one time). It is just too obvious.

Does he think that hispanics are stupid?

He has lost California anyway so he probably didn't think of it as a political risk. The problem is that there is always political risk.


Another thing.

Why is the GOP message always one of division? Division by class. Division by color. Division by religion. Division by state.

How often can you offend various groups and retain long term viability? Are there enough angry old white men to do this?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

26. Dividing people distracts from their real agenda.

[ywcachieve]

62. He insulted the the intelligence of the Latino population, by going to Univision in 'brown face'.

It was an all-time low for Romney.

[cr8tvlde]

73. Yeah, like they were too stupid to notice. Even Hispanic voters

have seen his face all over the place. I was surprised he didn't paste on a moustache.

[dimbear]

22. Quite a good number of the Mormon pioneers that came to California ended up quitting or

being kicked out of the church. Too much temptation.

[DemKittyNC]

23. Gees!

Just when you think this guy can't get any weirder or insulting then he opens his mouth and out comes a statement that insults a State and a Country and his intellect all at once...

[BeeBee]

24. And that's a bad thing? n/t

[Zorra]

25. Romney wants to turn America into Utah ~ a Mormon State.

That's what's really scary

The rest of America doesn't want that either.

I'll take Callifornia anyday.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

28. Did you know when Bush was polling in the low to mid 30s nationally he was in the 70s in Utah?

Now THAT is scary.

<shuddereth>

[abolugi]

27. Yeah...

We try to take care of our poor and needy here...
Imagine that...

[Cha]

53. That's what miffed doesn't like. And,

I'm sure his donor's got that.

[progressivebydesign]

31. He's going full out Palin on us... He said this to CALIFORNIANS?? Wtf?

As someone said, he's the only candidate that could go to the Olympics and start a war with the UK, apparently California as well.

What a dumbass.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

40. You know what's REALLY sad?

Look at past elections.

California voted solid GOP for decades. Twice for Nixon and it was his home state, we voted for Ford, Twice for Reagan, again, his home state, and voted for George H. W. Bush.

Then we voted for Clinton and all of the sudden we were called "The Left Coast" and our 55 Electoral Votes have been written off for all time and we are described as the worse place you could possibly want to be in the entire nation because we want clean cars and enjoy sex.

[TeamPooka]

81. and we'd like legal pot. IMHO nt

[Sirveri]

125. We had a chance to do that and voted it down. nt

[TeamPooka]

130. next time.

[Sirveri]

132. I sure hope so.

[KauaiK]

32. Then why did he buy in house in California???

[flamingdem]

34. And work on avoiding paying the taxes California needs! nt

[madokie]

35. That guy is an idiot

[JI7]

36. you should edit Subject to include "while in California" , this is the First Story on Local News

at least in Los Angeles area.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

44. Good idea - done.

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[kestrel91316]

38. Projection. Rmoney wants to make the US Saudi Arabia.

[ThoughtCriminal]

41. Romney wants to make America "become Mississippi"

Yeah. Tough choice.

[Le Taz Hot]

42. What's the matter, Mitt?

Not enough white for ya? So, while he's IN California he insults California. Now that takes a special kind of stupid. The man's gifted, I tell ya.

[ProfessionalLeftist]

43. What a tactless dolt. Jeeze. n/t

[Monk06]

45. Romney has said that the happiest time in his life was spent in France as a missionary. He speaks

French fluently we are told.

If foreign and especially French 'socialism' doesn't work then why is he so fond of France?

Could it be that the socialist French enjoy a better life style and standard of living than the US?

[PDJane]

106. He speaks Parisian French fluently, but his accent is awful.

And most Parisians have a problem with Mitt's accent, I would wager. Hell, I have a problem with Mitt's accent.

[DemKittyNC]

46. They need a public saftey annoucement

before Rmoney comes out and speaks... WARNING: Anything Rmoney says or does does not reflect the views of the Rmoney campaign and should be taken entirely out of CONTEXT.

[Starry Messenger]

47. We're one of the top 10 economies in the *world*.

So yeah, avoid whatever makes that happen, I guess.

[madrchsod]

48. no mittens...you and your friends made California what it is today

at one time it was the 7th largest economy in the world. so you and your friends decided to strip the wealth out of california and left it as it is today.

that`s why you are losing mittens ...the people are fed up you and your friends

[Union Scribe]

49. Wow...just, wow.

Has anyone ever seen this level of stupidity from a candidate before? He's like a stupid factory that churns out stupid 24/7. The people tasked with cataloging the stupid things he's done and said must be weeping with exhaustion at this point.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

50. I HAD to do this...

[IMG][/IMG]

[Live and Learn]

51. The only thing wrong with California

is that Romney has a residence here. I wonder if he pays his property taxes, though.

[Initech]

52. California - where everyone owns a car elevator and dogs are free to ride on top of cars on I-5.

[Spirochete]

54. Sheesh. I NEVER

would have thought it possible for a candidate this bizarre to ever get this far on a presidential bid.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

55. Obviously you forgot about the fake cowboy from the fake ranch.

[Spirochete]

66. No, he surprised me too

because i never would have thought someone that dumb could get there, but he was just a stupid bully. Romney is downright weird.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

67. It all started with Reagan. That was when Republicans decided the Presidency was,...

....was only the PR Department of the US Government. They HATED George Herbert Walker Bush because he had the nerve to think that he was in charge. They absolutely HATED Clinton because he WAS in charge and they LOVED George W Bush because it didn't even occur to him that he could be in charge.

After his aircraft carrier landing he said he was happy they let him do that. I thought at the time, "WTF??? You are the one that's supposed to be running the show! You had to get PERMISSION??" Then I found out soon after the idiot wanted to have a grand parade through Washington with thousands of troops in dress uniforms holding flags with jets flying overhead and they wouldn't let him do that.

Republicans want a PR guy that will sell America unpopular policies disguised as something America wants.

Listen to this as an example:

http://server4.whiterosesociety.org/content/malloy/MalloyMemories/That%27s_for_my_benefit!.mp3

[ProSense]

56. It's unbelievable that this

idiot is still at it.

Romney raised $6 million at the Saturday evening event that attracted celebrities Dennis Miller and Gary Sinise. Before a group of more than 1,000 California Republicans, Romney kept up his criticism of the president for fostering what Romney said was a culture of dependency.

"This is a tough time. These are our brothers and sisters. These are not statistics. These are people," Romney declared. "The president's policies - these big-government, big-tax monolithic policies - are not working."

[ywcachieve]

57. He comes to California , and insults Californians. What a jerk!

[SDjack]

79. Willard wants to be "Insulter-in-Chief" of USA. nt

[WinkyDink]

58. Yeah, those Swiss and their banks "don't work," right, Mitt?

[Ikonoklast]

59. At the end of the speech, did he start barking and then throw feces at the crowd?

[ywcachieve]

63. I Love California!

[Ikonoklast]

65. How do feel about lamp?

Do you love lamp, too?

[Glimmer of Hope]

64. Lol. If he isn't for the 47% or California, what is left?

[pampango]

68. "It's a pathway to become like Europe, and Europe doesn't work there."

We understand that you and the 1% wouldn't want the US to resemble Europe and its equitable income distribution and strong unions.

You can repeat as often as you want that Europe doesn't work. It has its problems but it 'works' better than the US and other developed countries.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

75. Whenever I hear them say "There's no money for that" I think, "Get some from the rich".

Maybe then they wouldn't have enough to buy politicians and judges.

[cyglet]

85. And people can retire

and they (mostly) have single payer. Cons think that they can just say that because most of their supporters have never been there.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

122. Eactly. They keep the public broke and the government broke and claim EVERYBODY is broke.

Meanwhile:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021403034

[Liberal_in_LA]

69. When people are looking for a fresh start they head from CA or NY, even people

form the heartland. Stop trashing us.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

76. The steroetype is the cute innocent Kansas girl wanting to be a Star ending up doing porno.

This paints California in a negative light as a place of low morality.

Because, as you know,...morality is all about sex.

You can bomb the shit out of a country for oil and that has nothing to do with morality,...that's business.

[Arugula Latte]

71. He hates it so much he lives there.

[spanone]

72. hey mitty, europe's been around a few years longer than the good ole usa, dipshit

[OnionPatch]

74. He was speaking to *conservative* Californians.

Remember, he's not interested in the rest of us.

I live in southern California and know lots of conservatives, and believe me, they hate California. (Kind of like the way they live in the US but hate half of Americans.) I want to tell them to get the hell out then, but I'm usually too polite. They're always grumbling and groaning about the high taxes here and the way California has such an "anti-business climate" with all the regulations and such. Oh and don't even start them on illegal immigration. Still, I don't see them going anywhere. They seem happy enough to stay.

Personally, I love California.

Screw you, Mitt. I thought I smelled something like sulfur in the air the other day.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

87. I know some like that too here in Orange County.

Especially in Tustin, Costa Mesa and Anaheim Hills. The ones in Irvine are some of the worse. They share a border with Santa Ana and they act like everything east of the freeway is "The Barrio" and act like anyone that isn't a well scrubbed lily white is there to steal. They drive SUVs like they are sports cars and BELIEVE they OWN the road because their taxes paid for it. The Mercedes Benz is known locally as "The Newport Nova" because they're so common. A lot of older ones end up being driven by people who work at low paying jobs. I know a guy who has one that currently works at a car wash. This is because the rich here look at each others cars as a status symbol. Having one even three years old is considered to be sign that you aren't making much and it's ALL about flaunting your wealth so the poor people end up with their "hand me downs". You should see the rich strut at Fashion Island. If you want to REALLY see the rich you go to the Beverly Center in LA. Last time I was there I saw two 9 foot ceramic storks selling for $45,000,...each.

You know that expression, "Keeping up with the Joneses"? These guys are trying to keep up with the Rockefellers. They feel it's their DUTY to let New York know the West Coast is as rich and as cultured as they are.

I'm the one that came up with this gem when I was on ATJ: "Q: How do you attract an Orange County Girl? A: Stuff a sock in your wallet"

[OnionPatch]

117. Lol, some of the conservatives I was thinking of are from Orange County

in the Tustin area.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

118. A whole lot of them are Lawers specializing in corporate law.

They are anti-government and yet if it weren't for government they wouldn't have a job.

These idiots don't even consider the Judge to be "government". To them, "government" is the guy on the other side of the aisle who is suing their client for some silly reason. Like who cares if the factory dumped 400 gallons of acetone? Besides, They cleaned it up by hosing it down the storm drain....

[MindPilot]

94. I know, huh?

For California to be so anti-business, there sure seems to be a lot of business going on. And a lot of people who stick around even though it is apparently absolutely hellish experience to live here.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

77. There's the Romney Roomba, stuck in a corner again.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

123. Eatin' Obama's dust.

[SDjack]

78. Rmoney: You are Unworthy. Resign your candidacy. nt

[Th1onein]

80. What a fucking idiot.

That's all I can say. Geez. Unbelievable.

[SheilaT]

82. Good lord!

I have visited California any number of times. Two of my brothers and one of my sisters have lived there. It's a perfectly nice state. Now, personally, I have no desire to live there, but that's just me. However, other than high housing costs in too many parts, and a population density in parts that I wouldn't want to be in, there's nothing that terrible about the state.

I like to say that we have fifty wonderful states in this great country of ours. Every time I think about the ones I say you couldn't pay me to live there, I'll come across someone who truly LOVES that state. And I just get reminded all over again about how we're all different.

About the only thing wrong with the whole country "becoming California" might be that it would be a little boring, but then that state has quite a lot of diversity of everything, so I'm probably wrong there.

[BlueToTheBone]

83. This guy is a real clown! He is a gaffe a minute!

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

84. California gets back less $$$ from the fed government than it sends to Washington

Most "red" states, on the other hand, get more $$$ than they send.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/11/states-federal-taxes-spending-charts-maps

[southernyankeebelle]

86. This man can't even think for himself. He is channeling Quitter Palin. They are dividing the

country.

[desertduck]

88. Will the unraveling never end??!?!! I have never seen anything like this.....

[proud2BlibKansan]

89. Too funny.

He's worse every day.

[Odin2005]

90. I have noticed that the wingnuts delusionly use California as an example of...

...how we "tax-and-spend Libruls" can bankrupt a state. I think Romney is throwing red meat at those nuts.

[wutang77]

91. I created a an account just to bitch about this,

As a longtime lurker, I have never gotten so irritated as I did reading Romney's slam on my state. My state has world class colleges(I go to one) and everything you could ever want to close by. Mountains, sun, oceans, parks. We pay dearly for these things but we are far from knocked to the canvas, and if Cali is so awful, why did you move here you fuckhead?

[hlthe2b]

92. Welcome to DU.... While I'm a Coloradoan, through and through, I'd never ever knock California

It only underscores what an absolute moron and OPPORTUNIST Romney is.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

93. Welcome, wilkommen, bienvenue to Democratic Underground my friend

[Spitfire of ATJ]

95. Welcome to DU, fellow Californian.

[wutang77]

96. Santa Monica here, by way of Oceanside.

Btw the clincher? we have In-N-Out, Game, set, match.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

97. Mine's about a mile away.

[wutang77]

101. I have to go to Venice for mine, but well worth it.

What is the grossest meal you ever had. Me and my friend were dying of hunger, so we both got 8 by 8, animal style. The cashier said she had never seen anything like it.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

113. She needs to go to YouTube...

[CaliforniaPeggy]

98. I'm just south of you, in Manhattan Beach!

I think we live on one of the most beautiful bays in the whole country!

Welcome to DU, wutang77!

[wutang77]

99. Manhattan beach is the place in California I hope to raise my family in,

Absolutley breathtaking.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

102. It IS a pretty town, and the schools are good.

I'm sure you know it is also very pricey. Save your money!

[wutang77]

103. Property taxes brutal?

[CaliforniaPeggy]

110. I'm not sure, since we've been here a long time.

I think they are for someone buying new, since that's when they get reassessed.

Every year they go up 1 or 2%. I think.

Sorry I can't be more positive. My husband takes care of those matters.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

124. Wanna know how much Liberals take California for granted?

This topic has received 123 replies and 2287 views but only 33 recs.

[stlsaxman]

100. EXCUSE ME- but i don't see a single word of the OP in the article linked...

is it just me?



got a proper article i can link to?

[renie408]

109. Here

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/politics&id=8821206

[Spitfire of ATJ]

111. This is something the media does that really pisses me off.

They will change an article if it criticizes Republicans.

No problem though:

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=mozclient&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&q=It%27s+even+possible+we+could+be+on+a+pathway+to+become+California+-+I+don%27t+want+that+either

Take your pick.

[silvershadow]

104. Ok, this isn't just tone-deafness. It is clearly a mental disorder or some kind.

As is his tax evasion, his treatment of women in his church, etc. The man is clearly UNFIT to lead this country. Not only does he need a "come to Jesus" moment, as Palin said, but he actually might serious professional help.

[Cali_Democrat]

105. So it's come to this? Presidential candidates essentially insulting certain states?

What the hell? Imagine if Obama slammed Alabama or Mississippi....imagine the outrage that would be directed toward him.

A total double standard.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

114. I thought of that too.

This is the FOX "News" campaign right out of the bubble.

[kentuck]

108. And who made these stinking cookies..?

[Bluestar]

112. Then get out

If I were able, I would run out to the 405 and throw a mat of nails in front of his motorcade! If it's so terrible, then get the hell out of our beautiful, liberal state!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

115. One thing that would flip out Mitt is to see some punk rocker with green spiked hair,...

....and find out he was the owner of his own business.

I saw a guy like that, he owned a shop near the Huntington Beach Pier that sold wetsuits and surfboards.

[brush]

116. Not that smart

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It's turning out Romney's not that smart. How do you say something like that when you're courting voters in California? He also just asked aloud about the fire on Ann's plane and her not being able to get fresh air, "why don't they make it so the windows open on airliners (he actually used the word aircraft). What a moron. W may be smarter.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

119. I'm not surprised, he thinks his dog enjoyed the breeze too.

[brush]

120. Hah!

Yeah, he seems too clueless about too many things. Like where has he been living to not know his California remark was an insult, and that the last thing you want to do on a pressurized plane going 500 mph is to open a window. We can let him near the White House or the nuclear trigger. God! The man is scary.

[salin]

121. One more example of living in such a rareified life,

that the arrogance is so strong, that it prevents the candidate from being coach-able.

He seems like he is on a marathon in which the goal is to offend as much of the population (except the teaparty, and the 1%) as possible.

[Raine]

129. Rmoney never fails to open his mouth and insult someone, something or someplace. Get out of here! nt

[onestepforward]

131. I never thought I'd see someone who is worse than Bush,

but here comes Romney less than 4 years later!

[LeftishBrit]

133. Whaaaaaatttttttt???

I will for a moment attempt to control my fury over the vile attacks of the Republicans on Europaean welfare states, and instead gasp over his insulting California, and treating it as a foreign country, while speaking to a Californian audience.

But go ahead Romney - if you want to antagonize the state with the most electoral votes in America, why should anyone try to stop you?