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(52,791 posts)to do a kind thing.
shame
Skittles
(153,178 posts)Tom Joad freaking RAWWWWWWWWKS, and so does his mom!!
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)And you are so damn straight about this Tom Joad!
More Tom Joad, please!
tblue37
(65,483 posts)saying that her story could easily be the same as his mother's story or the story of any number of other elderly women.
Skittles
(153,178 posts)tavalon
(27,985 posts)I've never agreed with them before but now, I not only don't agree with them, I see very little humanity in them.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)I just couldn't take the hate. I was just gobsmacked at the things people would put on there about people like the beautiful creature pictured above. Why would they put their hatred on display like that?
loudsue
(14,087 posts)the most despicable sub-humans I could ever imagine. Their hearts are as cold as ice, and brains as small as mice.
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)The only way I see any of this kind of shit is when my friends or Duchess and Duke St. Rollins (or one of their compatriots) go after them.
jillan
(39,451 posts)bluestate10
(10,942 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)the nasty Republicans who criticized me when I asked them why they cared what a homeless person chooses to buy with the money people give them, and asked if they were as concerned about what the Wall Street Bankers do with the tax payer money we all give them.
Their usual attack on anyone giving money to the homeless is 'do you realize they will probably buy beer or pot with it'? So what if they do. Once you give someone money it is theirs and I really don't care what they choose to do with it, anymore than I care what anyone else spends their money on.
But it makes me so angry, the attitude that because someone is poor, we should monitor every dime they spend. So when I give someone money now, I give it in the name of a nasty Repub and I admit, it makes me smile to think how upset it would make them that they simply cannot control what other people do with THEIR money.
Bohunk68
(1,364 posts)I think the people who post about the drug tests are just jealous that they get drug tested and want to do drugs themselves, and that they just don't have the fucking guts to protest against ALL drug testing. And of course, the are not the least bit worried about who owns the drug testing companies, such as a certain Republic governor in FL who gave the company to his wife 2 days before he became governor. Nor the fact that $187,000,000 was spent dong it and only less than .01%, tested positively.
theinquisitivechad
(322 posts)I forget where I saw this on DU but they've done studies on Republican/Democrat thinking processes and Republicans tend to avoid harm to themselves (ie, other people 'eating up' their tax dollars, other people using 'their' resources, basically, getting a bigger slice of the pie than they do), while Democrats avoid harm to the social collective (ie, help the 'least among us' mentality).
I think that's definitely at play here. This woman looks lovely. I would have paid for her package.
me b zola
(19,053 posts)If they were concerned about their tax dollars, they would be demanding to know where are the 2.3 trillion dollars that Rumsfeld misplaced the day before 9/11. They would have demanded an account of the billions in cash that was passed around in bags in Iraq with no record keeping.
And its more than them being hypocrites too. There is something larger and uglier at work here.
TomClash
(11,344 posts)The part of the Bible the TeaParty hates.
ladym55
(2,577 posts)That involve the actual teachings of Jesus. They are bigger fans of selected verses from Leviticus, Paul, and Revelations ... You know, the things they can twist to support hatred.
Tigress DEM
(7,887 posts)Patiod
(11,816 posts)He was a hard-core Dem who said he was "afraid for our country" when Ryan was nominated.
When they called from the church office to ask about what readings I wanted, I didn't hesitate: Matthew 25, plus the song that goes "whatever you do to the least of my brothers, that you do unto me".
In the "remembrance" portion, I said that my father's politics was "whatever the opposite of Libertarian is" and said that "he believed in community...He believed it was his obligation to help others, and that people who think only of themselves and their own families and their own money are deeply impoverished people, no matter what their back balance is."
I hated to politicize a funeral, but it was so much a part of the person he was that I'm not sure his friends (90% Republican) even noticed what I did there.
TomClash
(11,344 posts)You are fortunate.
Patiod
(11,816 posts)Both he and I disliked that name, because he acknowledged that "The Greatest Generation" was often horribly racist and sexist, and that after the war, they had the cards stacked in their favor for business and financial success.
But he had that laudabe. mid-century belief in the Lion's Club and PTA and volunteering extensively at church. Later, he expanded outside his own community and added quite a bit of work on behalf of an inner city Catholic school.
But anyway, thanks for acknowledging that Tom.
(Oh, and my SO would love your name, as he is fairly obsessive about the Clash, and got to meet Joe Strummer in person more than once)
TomClash
(11,344 posts)At a concert at Bonds in NY. Great band and a whack venue.
His Fender T was wicked cool.
Sad day when he died - ten years in December.
Patiod
(11,816 posts)and somewhere in Connecticut, on a Mesqueleros tour, right before he died.
Ten years? Already? Yikes.
CrispyQ
(36,501 posts)I know a Christian zealot - the only word for it - he also married very, very, very, very well. He sees his Christianity through the lens of fear - fear of losing his comfort, fear of being able to do whatever he damn well pleases. He doesn't want to share. He is full of hatred. And so many 'churches' these days seem to preach selfishness.
P.S. I have a deep and abiding love for Colbert My husband's OK with it...
CrispyQ
(36,501 posts)She married a zealot & it was just a matter of time before she was parroting his hate & close-minded view of the world. It was very sad to see. She wanted children very badly but had a hard time conceiving & carrying. She had a few miscarriages. I asked once if they considered adoption. I knew it was over when she responded, "Oh no! We might get a homosexual child!" I deleted her from my address book.
You nailed it here: "...fear of losing his comfort, fear of being able to do whatever he damn well pleases."
~lol! Your husband is a good man!
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)Shame on the Con
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)This is truly the difference between Repukes and Democrats. Tom Joad says it so well.
treestar
(82,383 posts)forgot the Beatitudes. Tom Joad - so right, according to the Bible, this lady could be Christ.
WinstonSmith4740
(3,056 posts)"Never treat a brother like a passing stranger,
Always try to keep the love light burning.
Listen closely to his song and watch his eyes,
He might be the Prince of Peace returning."
These people that call themselves "christians" disgust me. I know many, many good ones. And they would have paid for this dear lady's package, because they do heed Christ's teachings to care for the least of us. As for the person who was so angry about this woman's request, he or she falls into this mind-set...if Christ ever did come back, looking the same way, and with the same message, they'd put him back up on the cross.
On edit: This asshole also missed the obvious, but it's not surprising. This woman was trying to pay with the only currency she had, probably for the rest of the month, food stamps. So she was willing to go without FOOD to get this package out. Now I'm even more pissed off.
treestar
(82,383 posts)They want to make a direct cause and effect relationship.
riverbendviewgal
(4,253 posts)and I checked him out on FB...pretty good stuff.
I bet all our DUrs have helped an unfortunate person at one time or another....or have been helped unasked by a kind stranger.
Of course I loved Tom Joad in Grapes of Wrath...Steinbeck was such an excellent writer.
HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)May he or she rot in hell. Conserving their humanity I guess.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)what to say? How 'bout shut the fuck up then? I'm so sick of these anti-empathetic inhumane pigs. So very sick of them.
HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)I'm sick of them too. WTF is wrong with these selfish assholes? My children would cry and ask me to help her, even as I was pulling a $20 out of my wallet. These people are FUCKED UP IN THE HEAD.
Marr
(20,317 posts)Authoritarian followers have a little well of generalized hatred that they're just dying to express, but they're too cowardly to direct it at people who might return the favor. So they jump all over vulnerable people.
"And I told that old welfare parasite just what scum she was and everyone applauded while she cried!" is a much better ending to their stories (From their POV) than "Then I told him how much I hate people like him, and after he spent fifteen minutes trying to see if he could literally shove my head into my own asshole the doctor says I'm confined to bed rest until my back is better."
It's weird how you never see conservatives harassing big dudes that are inked up. If they've got enough backup they'll harass a lone woman, they'll harass a woman with kids because they figure she won't react for fear for her children, and they'll harass kids because they figure kids aren't allowed to argue with them.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)They're getting absolutely flamed over there! Makes me feel giddy all over! Hooray for
decent people!
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)I'd like to friend Tom Joad!
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)more mental hospitals so we can trade in their guns for crochet needles and basket weaving classes.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)....more humane and caring.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)But the humane and caring don't build fascist states. Hitler proved that, and I'd be surprised to learn that Rupert Murdoch never read Mein Kampf.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Another freeper making shit up.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)what republicans do. They sit on their big fat hemorrhoidal asses, make shit up, and then they'll blame the democrats for the shit they made up!
Then they bring up bestiality porn on their computers and jack off with no lubrication. It's what they do!
Courtesy Flush
(4,558 posts)They ate him alive.
https://www.facebook.com/ReaganConservatism?ref=ts
mikki35
(111 posts)Here is the part that is making steam roll from my ears - this sick pathetic FUCK stood there in the Post Office and took this picture of this woman he/she knew NOTHING about with the sole purpose of holding her up to ridicule on social media to be seen across the country/world. I can GD guarantee she didn't give permission for it or for her image to be broadcast like THIS. Its September 22nd - she's probably completely out of cash until October 1st. My god, the sheer unadulterated selfishness of these people makes me want to puke. I know exactly how Tom feels - I hope they do 'go fuck off and die.'
RVN VET
(492 posts)And I agree with you: the son of a bitch took a picture of an old woman who was clearly, obviously in distress -- and used the photo to mock her and illustrate why he -- a moist pile of dung -- is sooooo angry he could just spit.
However, I know Republicans who would have reacted exactly the way I would have, or you would have, or any of the rest of us in this thread would have. I don't want to paint all Republicans with the same brush. This heartless mofo is a Randite, a lover of Paul Ryan, a greedy, callow, heartless pig. (Yes, he is. And I actually felt good writing that about him.) But my Republican friends are not like him at all. Sure, they are benighted followers of a lame philosophy. But they are actually nice, generous people.
It's damned hard not to stereotype, but it's really worth the effort.
"Racing the wind on the backs of turtles."
mikki35
(111 posts)if the standard-bearer wasn't just as sick, twisted, and completely self-absorbed as the person who posted this. And the baby standard-bearer is a self-professed Randite who's ALLLLLLLL about himself. If your friends cannot see this and intend to vote for someone who would/could look down on this woman, and have no problem with the prospect of their heroes self-proclaimed intent to rip the social safety net to shreds to further enrich themselves and their billionaire buds, then I'm having real problems trying to figure out how they can be 'nice, generous people.' That's not stereotyping - that's fact. That's a whole lot more than 'benighted followers of a lame philosophy,' what these people are advocating is the utter destruction of the fabric of this nation.
tblue37
(65,483 posts)Republicans, for whatever reason, and are not informed enough, introspective enough, or self-aware enough to reconsider their party identification.
Most Americans, especially Republicans but not just Republicans, treat party identification the way they treat loyalty to their local sports teams: they cheer "their" side and despise "their" opponents with as much (as little) logic or reason.
Let me offer an example of what I mean as it plays out in another field:
Here at the University of Kansas, I have long been repulsed by newspaper articles published every time the newest incarnation of the (now defunct) "Border War" between KU and Missouri would come around. In fact, I was thrilled when Missouri decided to leave the Big 12 so I wouldn't have to read such articles any more.
Every year, the articles would quote people in town and on campus, including not just students and people around town, but also prominent businessmen, coaches, and professors. They would all be going on about how much they "hate" the University of Missouri and the students, faculty, coaches, and players of the school. And Missouri's people would return the favor. For example, their coach would always fully gas up the team's bus before leaving Missouri to play at KU because, as he explained, he hated Kansas so much that he didn't want any Kansas gas station to make a penny from his team, and he didn't want the state of Kansas to earn a penny of tax money from them.
The hatred between the two schools (and their home cities and states) would also erupt into vandalism and physical violence sometimes, and though Missouri tended to go that way a bit more often than Kansas did, both were certainly capable of such behavior.
The excuse both sides offered for the hatreds displayed over this absurd "Border War" was that it originated in the border war between the anti-slavery Kansas militias (Jayhawkers) and the Missouri militias, especially Quantrill's notorious marauders.
But no one in either state or school was there during the original border war preceding the Civil War, and many of the people (most, undoubtedly) in either city or school are transplants from other states and countries, so they have no reason to bear a grudge for something that in no way touched them or anyone close to them.
But the mindless hatred was gleefully stoked every year with such articles, with speeches by coaches and even some professors and administrators, and also by well-known boosters. Here at KU new freshmen were deliberately indoctrinated into that hatred as part of their introduction to the school's "traditions." I am quite certain that something similar went on at the University of Missouri.
My beloved extended family on my father's side are mostly (maybe even all) fervent Republicans.
My fathers parents came to America from Sicily in the early 20th century. Dads family are Republicans, and quite vocal about it. I am an extremely liberal Democrat. (In fact, I am only a Dem because they are the only viable alternative to the Republicans. Frankly, the Democratic Party is far too conservative for me!) I never talk politics with them, because I do not want to get into heated arguments that will not change their minds, but will certainly drive a wedge between me and some of the most wonderful people I know.
I adore these members of my family, and I know them to be as good as people can possibly be. They truly are good, gentle people, and I love them dearly. But they are also Repubicans, and because of their party identification, they also watch a lot of FOX, because it supports Republicans, and thus they get their misinformation powerfully reinforced and their frustrations stoked by doing so.
The human mind is not really built for rational analysis, and especially not built for performing logical, dispassionate macroanalysis of that which does not directly, immediately impact the individual. On the other hand, it is built for tribal identification and loyalty and for powerful reactions to perceived threats.
mikki35
(111 posts)Oh, I get what you're saying - the wagons circling, the herd mentality, realllllllly hating to admit being wrong - all those unlovely human conditions that are directly and indirectly responsible for so much human fuckery throughout the ages. I do not equate school rivalry with voting for a team that has pledged to do the horrific things this one has.
The propaganda war - nothing new there - FOX has been systematically brainwashing people for decades now. It is as effective now as it has been throughout history. The problem is, this is NOT history. People have literally dozens, if not hundreds, of options, re: how, where, how much, what kind of information they receive. Most of it is available to all at the touch of a mouse or remote. That means that people are very much voluntarily choosing to listen to monumental amounts of ugly. I don't care of you're black, blue, pink, purple, red, whatever - that makes you not just misinformed, it makes you a special kind of fugly-stupid, that is potentially harmful to all.
They are planning to vote for a man, and his sidekick, that have done everything possible to demonize the poor, to strip women of nearly all say-so in reproductive rights. This guy has made millions and millions and millions by doing exactly what EVERYONE recognizes as the worst of the worst behaviors of turn-of-the-century vulture capitalists. They not only destroyed companies to steal their assets, they raided pension funds, so that employees would be utterly dependent on the very same safety net they have pledged to 'privatize' - i.e., make them vulnerable to the same kinds of behavior that just stripped them of their hard-earned retirement. Just WHERE are these people supposed to go WHEN that privatized fund gets raided and stripped????? Oh, I can hear it already - 'they'll set it up so that those privatized monies can never be touched like that!' I say BULL - they said the same EXACT thing about company pension funds.
Now, call me a reactionary judgmental ass - whatever you like - but if somebody voluntarily chooses to 'overlook' stuff like this, I say the vast majority would not only be voting for their own self-destruction, but figuratively spitting on and directly placing in harm's way millions and millions of people who have worked like demons to get to where they are - dependent upon a monthly stipend they have already paid for - either in years worked, blood shed for their country, whatever. That's not just irrational, that's about as ugly as it gets in the human condition.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)It's even waged here on DU.
And it didn't used to be that bad. It was a friendly rivalry for many years. Then it got hateful.
Tigress DEM
(7,887 posts)JoeyT
(6,785 posts)Although the reason they identify as Republicans is usually because they hate one or more of the groups we champion, they just don't necessarily hate them all.
So they'd have reacted that way as long as they were sure she was straight. Or white. Or Christian. Or hadn't ever had an abortion. If she was a member of the wrong outgroup they dislike, they'd have been posting something similar to what was in the OP.
So they might be generous, but their generosity is frequently entirely too conditional.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)is sick, twisted, amoral, and brainwashed. Your "nice, generous" Repuke friends are going to vote for the poster child for the picture on the left in the OP. If they're voting Rmoney, they have end stage cancer of the soul, period.
young_at_heart
(3,772 posts)Because his/her comment about being so angry is what Paul Ryan and his followers truly believe.
Bette Noir
(3,581 posts)I might know this woman's family. I wish I had been there to pay her postage for her.
cr8tvlde
(1,185 posts)This is fundamentalist Christianity. Many today I believe Jesus would fit into the Pharisee and Saducee category. The test is simple. By their works ye shall know them. Not everyone who comes unto me and says Lord, Lord, will enter the Kingdom of heaven
Thank you for this reminder and a chance to remember my Sunday School lessons. As I like to say, The Beatitudes and the Sermon on the Mount are some of the greatest teachings ever. And as I peruse through them from time to time, I feel good that I am a Democrat and at least we do our best to follow these teachings with our brothers and sisters.
A special blessing on this woman and all like her.
Timbuk3
(872 posts)I should have.
"A special blessing on this woman and all like her."
Timbuk3
(872 posts)The GOP, AND ANYONE WHO VOTES FOR THEM, absolutely disgust me.
I'm not on ANY government dole.
My attitude is "what's 20 bucks to help someone?"
Theirs is "I got mine, go fuck yourself."
patrice
(47,992 posts)Tigress DEM
(7,887 posts)John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
(As Christian DEMS see it - GOD LOVES THE WHOLE WORLD, NO EXCEPTIONS. As the rethugs see it - only those who can afford to make it on their own and have that "look down your nose" sneer down pat.)
IF YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN THAT TRULY BELIEVES IN JESUS, THEN EVERY DAY YOU TRY TO MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE SOMEHOW. IT WOULD BE A GIFT TO HELP SOMEONE LIKE THIS FOR A TRUE CHRISTIAN.
Mat 25:34-40 "Then the King will say to those on His right**, 'Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
'For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me something to drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in; naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.'
"Then the righteous will answer Him, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You something to drink? 'And when did we see You a stranger, and invite You in, or naked, and clothe You? 'When did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?'
"The King will answer and say to them, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.'
** In real life, when you face someone and are on THEIR right side, you're actually standing to the LEFT - maybe rethugs have a WHOLE lot of things backward.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)Hugin
(33,189 posts)Sounds like a load of BS.
Glad someone shot it down, tho.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)No surprise he'd lie though.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)There hasn't been food stamps for years now.
Bet you this is total bullshit, most Republicans still think that people still get books of stamps every month.
DollarBillHines
(1,922 posts)My first thought was "Fuck off and die, asshole" (before reading Tom Joad say the same thing).
cr8tvlde
(1,185 posts)and debit the purchse...and look kind of like a Visa Card. Maybe she tried to use that? More than once I've been behind one in a grocery line and they only have partial amount left, so have to pay with cash. I'd like to think I would contribute if someone really didn't have the extra cash.
BTW, keep your BS to yourself.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)But I will post as I see fit within the rules set up by the owners of this site, one of whom isn't you.
Got that?
skeewee08
(1,983 posts)Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)And the minute they try to accept the offer of a lifeline, these cretins are CONSUMED with... what? Jealousy? Envy?
This woman obviously didn't drive here in a Jaguar, nor does she dress in silks or pearls.
Disgusting.
Shitty Mitty
(138 posts)Ayn Rand ought to be hated with the intensity that people hate Hitler, but she's not, for reasons I can't fathom.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)to go to full-on war with these filthy, sub-human creatures. The world will be such a better place when we've completely rid it of them.
Hotler
(11,443 posts)jmowreader
(50,562 posts)Republicans write a made-up piece of shit story about being pissed-off about a woman wearing an Obama button who was trying to pay for mailing a package with food stamps (after being told being on welfare doesn't get you free postage). Other conservatives join in and discuss how evil, amoral, selfish, greedy...shall I go on?...Obama voters are because they expect hardworking Americans to pay for their very existence. You know, the old "vote Democrat, it's easier than working" thing. And to throw in a little extra entertainment, they even put a misspelled word in there--"I did noticed"?
Democrats, at least the ones who READ the Republicans' made-up piece of shit stories, know there haven't been "food stamps" for EIGHT FUCKING YEARS! It's all EBT cards now, people. Try to keep up.
The Republican lowlifes still need to go straight to Hell, not pass go and not collect their Social Security, though. The only reason I can think of that the 'puke would even be out on a Saturday afternoon, is he ran out of Cheetos and Monster and his mom won't go to the store for him.
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)The cretin doesn't understand that one can be on food stamps without being on welfare, not that it matters. I really don't know why anyone could be outraged that some old lady might be trying to mail a package with any means possible, unless they are completely fucked in the head.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)JDStone
(10 posts)A damn teabager/gop lie. A BOLD FUCKING LIE!
The easy tell that this is fiction was the statement, "she tried to pay with food stamps."
Agriculture Secretary Ann M. Veneman declared an end to the ''paper era'' of the food stamp program on Tuesday (22 June 2004) at a conference of state officials here.
Food Stamps went out 8 fucking years ago idiot! They were replaced with electronic benefits and debit cards.
grr8wine
(15 posts)My right winged sister only posts negatives towards Obama. I suggested she embrace her passion by posting positives about Romney. I guess she couldn't come up with any.
pa28
(6,145 posts)She's walking toward the desk clerk and not away.
This guy took the picture in advance and made up the story later for the sake of whipping up a bit of the old outrage on Facebook.
I'll bet this douchenozzle owes more in back taxes and child support than he'll make in total income this year.
Like most conservatives he's looking for a convenient scapegoat and this unfortunate lady was in the wrong place at the wrong time.