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phantom power

(25,966 posts)
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 03:20 PM Sep 2012

Yes, Banning 32 Oz Liquid Sugar Bombs Can Help

editor's note: author embedded like six links to some studies in a single sentence, which I am not going to reproduce

Whenever I blog about food, food industry apologists insist that there are no health problems associated with obesity. So let's get this straight: That is just so fucking not true. If you really think these people are all wrong, I suggest you write them and explain to them the error of their ways. When they admit they are wrong, be sure write me and I will offer an apology to you.

And that is why this study is so important, and why banning supersized portions of soda - note: NOT banning sodas, just insanely large sizes - is a pretty good idea. It's not as good as taxing soda, but that is all but impossible politically.

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2012/09/yes-banning-32-oz-liquid-sugar-bombs.html

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Yes, Banning 32 Oz Liquid Sugar Bombs Can Help (Original Post) phantom power Sep 2012 OP
More Nanny-State BS. MercutioATC Sep 2012 #1
I don't see how the ban would apply to sugar-free drinks sl8 Sep 2012 #10
Sugar bombs? What sugar? DollarBillHines Sep 2012 #2
How about letting 'em drink what they want to drink? n/t SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2012 #3
I have no problem with that. DollarBillHines Sep 2012 #4
So you only want to pay for healthcare SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2012 #6
No, no, no DollarBillHines Sep 2012 #7
Being sedentary is worse for you than drinking one 32 oz drink 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #5
If *obesity* is the concern, then they should ban high-calorie foods, too! redqueen Sep 2012 #8
Ban HFCS. YellowRubberDuckie Sep 2012 #9
 

MercutioATC

(28,470 posts)
1. More Nanny-State BS.
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 03:29 PM
Sep 2012

It's just an attempt to make Bloomberg looks like he cares about something other than breaking up Occupy protests.

I can still go to a convenience store and get my Big Gulp. I can still order more than one soft drink at a restaurants. Restaurants are still free to offer unlimited refills. There's no provision to exempt sugar-free soft drinks. This law is a hot mess. It creates the ILLUSION of dealing with an issue without really doing anything. The one thing that it DOES accomplish is to injest government regulation into something so simple as how large a dring we are allowed to order at a restaurant.

Not only is this law pap, it's dangerous slippery-slope pap.

sl8

(13,804 posts)
10. I don't see how the ban would apply to sugar-free drinks
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 07:08 PM
Sep 2012

unless the drink has another caloric sweetener added.

from http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/downloads/pdf/notice/2012/notice-adoption-amend-article81.pdf :


(1) Sugary drink means a carbonated or non-carbonated beverage that:
(A) is non-alcoholic;
(B) is sweetened by the manufacturer or establishment with sugar or another caloric sweetener;
(C) has greater than 25 calories per 8 fluid ounces of beverage; and
(D) does not contain more than 50 percent of milk or milk substitute by volume as an ingredient.

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
2. Sugar bombs? What sugar?
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 03:32 PM
Sep 2012

HFCS is what's in those things.

I forget what chemical is used in the Diet crap.

Let 'em drink beer.

Or, heaven forbid, water.

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
4. I have no problem with that.
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 04:44 PM
Sep 2012

I just don't want to pay the health-related costs.

However, I am for socialized health care, but if I get cirrhosis or smoking-related cancer the costs should fall on me.

It's a darned sticky wicket, ain't it?

Hopefully, I'll just be hit by a bus and get it all over with, right quick-like.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
6. So you only want to pay for healthcare
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 04:46 PM
Sep 2012

that results from behaviors you approve of?

Who will be the final arbiter of whose diseases get paid for, in your scenario?

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
7. No, no, no
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 06:29 PM
Sep 2012

I just believe that the parameters are very wavy.

If two gang-bangers shoot each other, do we all get stuck with the bill?

If I o.d., is the bill everyone's?

Now, if I get drunk and run down two pedestrians and then crash into a tree, shouldn't I get stuck with the bills?

I am awfully glad that I don't have to draw the lines.

By the way, I have no insurance at all.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
5. Being sedentary is worse for you than drinking one 32 oz drink
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 04:44 PM
Sep 2012

perhaps NYC should randomly cut off the power for an hour or so at a time. To encourage people to get some exercise.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
8. If *obesity* is the concern, then they should ban high-calorie foods, too!
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 06:35 PM
Sep 2012

Sugar has been linked to serious health problems besides just obesity.

If obesity is the reason for this there are a LOT of fast foods and restaurant dishes that need to be banned as well.

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