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It may not mean much, but I have a friend who grew up in a military family and works with veterans. She's conservative and has joked about how my vote and hers will cancel each others' out. (I'm good with that because it means hers won't stand unchallenged.)
Today, she said she's rethinking voting for Trump again because of what's happening at the post office. It's impacting her clients who get their meds in the mail, and it's really pissing her off.
Cue: JAW DROP!
Never, ever thought I would hear her say something like that!
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,502 posts)KY.........
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Yes they do, KY!
Normalize not supporting him! 👍
mercuryblues
(14,562 posts)trump's #myfriendVlad's GI body bags for cash would have been the turning point.
soldierant
(6,966 posts)of hers or someone she knew well, that probably would have happened. Republicans have to see things in erson before it gets through to them. Photos and news stories can be dismissed.
Leith
(7,817 posts)that the monster's supporters are going to fall away, one by one, little by little, when it finally crosses the line that should never be crossed for that person. The post office fiasco and its effect on people she cared about was that line for your friend.
And - it means a lot. Multiply your friend's disaffection by a million and their lights are going out all across the country.
LizBeth
(9,953 posts)they did not phase her. Like literal death for so many Americans because Trump lied about covid and did nothing.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)LizBeth
(9,953 posts)I went into that rant yesterday on my FB. That plain, vulgar, angry, blunt comment to all my people. Some of them being the dumb fucks. I have NO more shit to give. I texted my kids and asked them to tell me if I went too far, lol.
OMGWTF
(3,993 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,955 posts)that they were PROUD of you. You led and guided them in their growing years - and now you continue to show them the way.
YEA, MOM!
LizBeth
(9,953 posts)I have one in law school writing papers on Q and the way people think, why it is taking off and also another voter outreach brief about events the last four years that I can just copy and paste with any number of issues. Then another in Austin in the protests while going to University. You bet! It is so much fun now that they are older, adults in their own.
LakeArenal
(28,889 posts)I never thought caging children was bad til the SS took mine away.
spooky3
(34,531 posts)Vote for anyone other than Trump. But those didnt matter, because they didnt affect her, apparently.
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)I wonder how you can have a cohesive society when people can close themselves off so easily? Maybe we would benefit if we had civics classes in school that illustrate the problems with being both in a "society" and able to imagine yourself as hermetically sealed and self-reliant--both are not even close to true in a larger sense.
"As long as it/he/she/they are the only ones effected by he/she/him/them, that's fine with me as long as its NOT ME OR MINE!" they might believe.
The problem is that this is not a sound way to reason about one's relationship to society and the World. There are examples that, when particularly malevolent ideologies take root and gain more power, they gradually include more and more people and groups in their list for persecution, imprisonment, torture, etc. and the stakes for being an enemy go up gradually and become more inclusive.
In that sense, not being concerned that, even if you are the Perfect Citizen as far as x, y, and z go, the goal post can and do move around if you allow this kind of tyranny to continue. You could eventually be designated as an undesirable for not being x enough or too y and off you and yours go. This did happen in Nazi Germany and other tyrannical, violent regimes and a false and even delusional sense of privilege and security actually fuels the engines of atrocity in cultures. For some, the outcome can be a horrible and unexpected surprise.
I mention that to people I know and it would really help our culture to emphasize the interconnection we all have and how not protecting the least among us and overlooking egregious behaviors by leaders, (for our own benefit) can eventually bite back hard and mercilessly. After that, it is far too late for the enablers and apathetic. Our children and, if there are any, future generations would benefit by knowing how this works. We can do our best to apply preventative measures in order to avoid great suffering.
mrsadm
(1,198 posts)People dont think, ask questions, investigate, heck even READ about anything happening anywhere else, to anyone else. They have to be hit with a baseball bat to wake up. Bet shed never consider the question of who to vote for, without the old folks complaining about their medicines.
OMGWTF
(3,993 posts)dchill
(38,626 posts)The Daily Irishman
(75 posts)And if no media company does so. watchdog groups must step in.
matt819
(10,749 posts)These people are incapable of understanding any issue unless the have experienced it themselves.
Beartracks
(12,839 posts)Well, Trump, of course, AND the spineless Republicans who provide him cover.
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gibraltar72
(7,518 posts)BlueJac
(7,838 posts)Illumination
(2,458 posts)by Joe Biden!
paleotn
(18,015 posts)Babies in cages didn't do it. I've run across folks I know that are breaking from the cult too. I have to choke back....what took you so goddamn long?!
MyOwnPeace
(16,955 posts)glad they FINALLY did, but, WTF!!!!!!
NellieStarbuck
(266 posts)Most passers-by honked, waved, gave us the thumbs up. We only had one lone idiot with a Trump flag come by.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)would have bothered her.....
But her clients not getting their meds really pissed her off.
Snackshack
(2,541 posts)...for a large portion of the 180,000 (soon to be 200,000) dead Americans due to the games hes played with the Pandemic, calling it a Hoax, discounting the medical experts and generally slow walking the governments response to the disaster. One would think that would certainly be enough, the final straw so to speak after 3+ yrs for people supporting him. I mean 180,000 people losing their lives between March and now is a lot of people...but it appears not to be the case. People seem generally much more upset with the USPS fiasco then with the Pandemic even though both have impacted millions Americans.
Cha
(298,087 posts)not just "meds". The USPS is Not a partisan service.. everybody uses it!
Except now Nojoy & trump have turned it into a hot mess from hell.