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CTyankee

(63,927 posts)
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 09:32 AM Aug 2020

I understand these "shock" type store incidences...I was the victim of one.

I posted earlier on this shocking incident at my local supermarket where I have shopped uneventfully for YEARS:

I was told by a store employee: "You know that Joe Biden raped four women." And he smirked when he said it.

This shocking incident left me nearly speechless. I had asked him about the severe shortage of frozen foods. He started to tell me about supply lines during the pandemic. I said I understood and I am glad that our state (CT) is one of the safest from the pandemic. Then he said to me "You aren't going to vote for Biden, are you?" and then his LIE about Joe.

He obviously thought this was in response to me giving a big endorsement of our Dem. governor Ned Lamont (who, btw, deserves praise for his handling of the crisis).

well, I reported him to the manager who gave him a warning. He was also told to apologize to me personally which I have yet to get.

Now I see shocking behavior (caught on cellphone and posted in social media) by these "crazy" people in stores, gas stations etc and I wonder if there isn't some sort of "planned disruption" as a form of "owning the libs" going on here.

I am glad that this behavior is being shown here on DU.

Who knows. Anyway, I appreciate having these "incidents" posted here on DU. Keep it up!

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I understand these "shock" type store incidences...I was the victim of one. (Original Post) CTyankee Aug 2020 OP
Take a cart of groceries to the checkout... LakeVermilion Aug 2020 #1
I reported him to the manager who agreed with me that such behavior was not tolerated. CTyankee Aug 2020 #2
It sucks that this happened to you rainin Aug 2020 #3
Over 2 dozen, actually. nt tblue37 Aug 2020 #8
That is extremely unprofessional behavior. Mariana Aug 2020 #4
Wow. Disgusting. FM123 Aug 2020 #5
I would write not email corporate. Oppaloopa Aug 2020 #12
I reported him later after talking it over with my husband and my son (who is a prosecutor!). CTyankee Aug 2020 #19
Yes, that will be a beautiful (and satisfying) day! FM123 Aug 2020 #21
Typical Republican rumor-mill smear campaign. Laelth Aug 2020 #6
No employee should be discussing politics Sherman A1 Aug 2020 #7
A basket wiper at Sam's Club did the same to me last week. BComplex Aug 2020 #9
Absolutely! You pay for a membership at Sam's. You are more than a customer. cutroot Aug 2020 #10
People like that have to be reported or else they're a fracus waiting to happen sarge43 Aug 2020 #17
the fascists are weaponizing, through fox so called news, lost, delusional, stupid people who yaesu Aug 2020 #11
Exactly! Good word for it. I am convinced that these incidents are not a coincident. CTyankee Aug 2020 #20
Unsurprisingly, the usual suspects are STILL pushing the Tara Reade story alp227 Aug 2020 #25
I'm glad that you reported that. yardwork Aug 2020 #13
Especially an older lady... CTyankee Aug 2020 #22
Did you know....? Fill in the blank, Foster, Clinton, Muslim, senile... sanatanadharma Aug 2020 #14
yesterday limbaugh played a tape of biden apparently flubbing and slurring his speech about certainot Aug 2020 #15
Looks likely. backscatter712 Aug 2020 #27
Related true movie: the King's Speech AmyStrange Aug 2020 #32
thanks for reminding me, i liked that movie a lot certainot Aug 2020 #34
Yeah, I usually don't go for that boring dramatic crap, and... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #35
based on a true friendship apparently. that helps. certainot Aug 2020 #36
Feel no remorse for turning in someone being cruel to you, because that is what it is. Trumpies go dameatball Aug 2020 #16
After th '16 election... elephant hunter Aug 2020 #18
Keep it up but also Stay Safe! jimlup Aug 2020 #23
What I'd like to tell him: CTyankee Aug 2020 #24
Any time someone tells me such a "fact", my immediate response is "Where did you hear that?" backscatter712 Aug 2020 #26
I was just too flustered too! But I did blurt that out to him and he didn't respond. CTyankee Aug 2020 #28
Depends on the person. backscatter712 Aug 2020 #29
So sorry to hear. Glad you reported the rabid idiot. The past few weeks i've pinned a Biden campaign onetexan Aug 2020 #30
Hell I want to get a goddam shirt with Biden 's photo on it and wear it around... CTyankee Aug 2020 #31
Kudos CTyankee! I'm sure w/ a Kamala shirt that will really rile up trumpians LOL onetexan Aug 2020 #33
Tell him to move to Mississippi. He'll fit right in TexasBushwhacker Aug 2020 #37
Politics doesn't belong in a supermarket 👎 Raine Aug 2020 #38

LakeVermilion

(1,047 posts)
1. Take a cart of groceries to the checkout...
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 09:42 AM
Aug 2020

then announce you won't buy them because (employee name goes here) is bothering me with his election politics while I am shopping.

When it costs money and time, the employee will be shown the door. There are more of us than there are of him.

CTyankee

(63,927 posts)
2. I reported him to the manager who agreed with me that such behavior was not tolerated.
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 09:47 AM
Aug 2020

I also told him that being old, I depended on that store for my vitally needed prescriptions as well as the food I and my husband need. AND, I praised the other staff members who were unfailingly polite and helpful to me. I wanted to sound sane and calm, but purposeful.

I'll keep folks posted if any further incidences occur.

rainin

(3,011 posts)
3. It sucks that this happened to you
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 09:47 AM
Aug 2020

Last edited Sat Aug 22, 2020, 10:39 AM - Edit history (1)

He shouldn't believe it just because somebody on the radio or television says it to him. I'll believe that when it's proven in court

Apparently, he has dismissed all the credible accusations of sexual assault by over a dozen women and an admission by trump that he grabs women by the pussy and they let him do it.

And apparently, he doesn't know that a judge has told trump he can't keep stonewalling the woman he reportedly raped in her effort to get his dna so she can match it to the semen on her dress

Apparently he believes someone on tv rather than a woman whose case is advancing in the court

I hope this case moves quickly. That'd be a great October surprise

Mariana

(14,863 posts)
4. That is extremely unprofessional behavior.
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 10:04 AM
Aug 2020

Once upon a time, it was considered extremely rude to inject religion or politics into a conversation about something else. I'm glad you reported him.

FM123

(10,054 posts)
5. Wow. Disgusting.
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 10:05 AM
Aug 2020

I applaud you for your quick thinking, reporting him to his manager was the best course of action. I would have been so shocked I don't know what I would have said or done....

CTyankee

(63,927 posts)
19. I reported him later after talking it over with my husband and my son (who is a prosecutor!).
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 12:45 PM
Aug 2020

I cast it in terms of my advanced age and my being a caregiver for my disabled husband (both true). The guy is unusually tall (nearly 7 ft. is my estimation) so he towers over everybody else.
He's a member of the local union (which I support completely) and I'll bet he hates his union and I'll bet the feeling is mutual.

I'm just waiting for the day after election day, if we know who has won yet. If things go as it looks like they will, I hope I'll run into him in the store and say "Hi, there, it's a beautiful day today, isn't it?"

FM123

(10,054 posts)
21. Yes, that will be a beautiful (and satisfying) day!
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 12:53 PM
Aug 2020

Remember to point out the BLUE SKIES when you do it!

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
6. Typical Republican rumor-mill smear campaign.
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 10:12 AM
Aug 2020

They’ve been doing this kind of thing since Karl Rove was running campaigns, and probably much earlier.

It’s always some kind of (usually baseless) salacious rumor about a particular candidate’s sexual deviance. Rove liked to start these kinds of rumors in law schools and then let them spread from there. They can be effective once the rumor mill gets cranked up.

The best response is, “No. I don’t know that and you don’t either. You shouldn’t believe everything you hear.”

I should add that Democrats have used rumor mill tactics like this as well, but the Republicans have turned it into an art form.

-Laelth

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
7. No employee should be discussing politics
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 10:34 AM
Aug 2020

With any customer at anytime. Such discussions if they happen at all are for break rooms or back rooms between employees who know each other and can remain civil. Politics should never ever be brought up on the sales floor when the doors are open.

BComplex

(8,094 posts)
9. A basket wiper at Sam's Club did the same to me last week.
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 10:58 AM
Aug 2020

I looked at him like he was nuts....which he is...but I didn't report him. I now see I should have.

sarge43

(28,947 posts)
17. People like that have to be reported or else they're a fracus waiting to happen
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 12:23 PM
Aug 2020

Someone like him is going to mouth off to another someone who has issues or hot buttons, then things may go ugly early.

Most everyone is on edge now. It wouldn't take much

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
11. the fascists are weaponizing, through fox so called news, lost, delusional, stupid people who
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 11:13 AM
Aug 2020

vote against their own well being.

alp227

(32,082 posts)
25. Unsurprisingly, the usual suspects are STILL pushing the Tara Reade story
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 07:11 PM
Aug 2020

Fox News, Mark Levin, New York Post, NewsBusters, you name it. (The NY Post and NewsBusters even granted the grifter interviews - I'm not kidding, do a google search.)

yardwork

(61,812 posts)
13. I'm glad that you reported that.
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 11:52 AM
Aug 2020

Normally I would be inclined not to get an employee in trouble but that was shocking.

I think you're right that websites and hate radio hosts are encouraging people to "speak up." Our best response is to calmly refute the lies and calmly report people who threaten violence or cross the line in interacting with us as customers.

Businesses don't want their employees confronting customers with political statements that accuse others of rape.

sanatanadharma

(3,761 posts)
14. Did you know....? Fill in the blank, Foster, Clinton, Muslim, senile...
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 12:01 PM
Aug 2020

My usual come back to the 'not-knowers' is that I will believe them when they can show me contemporary Polaroids of the whatever.

We know the 'know-nots' do not have facts, nor logic, nor morality (when bearing false witness) to support rumor and gossip.

They can't be convinced that unknown web-crawlers' statements are not valid means of knowledge. "Everybody says" is not rational evidence. Sally at the supermarket and Bill the butcher are not conspiracist-peer-review competent.
Or reply, "Did you know you're being bullshitted and seem to consume it willingly."

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
15. yesterday limbaugh played a tape of biden apparently flubbing and slurring his speech about
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 12:04 PM
Aug 2020

15 times - i only heard a couple.

was it a doctored tape that will be played over and over on 600 limbaugh stations and dems never respond?

 

AmyStrange

(7,989 posts)
32. Related true movie: the King's Speech
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 08:45 PM
Aug 2020

-

The King's Speech is a 2010 British historical drama film directed by Tom Hooper and written by David Seidler. Colin Firth plays the future King George VI who, to cope with a stammer, sees Lionel Logue, an Australian speech and language therapist played by Geoffrey Rush. The men become friends as they work together, and after his brother abdicates the throne, the new king relies on Logue to help him make his first wartime radio broadcast upon Britain's declaration of war on Germany in 1939.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_King%27s_Speech
=========

 

AmyStrange

(7,989 posts)
35. Yeah, I usually don't go for that boring dramatic crap, and...
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 11:38 PM
Aug 2020

-

I really had to force myself to watch it (DVD from Netflix, blah, blah, blah), but it kept me enthralled until the end.

I literally had to buy more tissues the next day.

I don't know why, but stuff like that always gets me going.
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dameatball

(7,411 posts)
16. Feel no remorse for turning in someone being cruel to you, because that is what it is. Trumpies go
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 12:23 PM
Aug 2020

well beyond normal behavior these days. They love to pick at scabs if they sense an opening. It is more than just ignorance, it is cruel, sadistic and prevalent. It goes beyond what most of us would consider normal political discourse and it is getting worse.

elephant hunter

(70 posts)
18. After th '16 election...
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 12:36 PM
Aug 2020

... I was taking my trash to the community dump. I was listening to NPR and turned it up so I could hear it while I unloaded my truck. The news went to a story of then president-elect Trump and the attendant shouted "go Trump!" I have the unfortunate appearance, I think, of a stereotypical right wing ideologue, yeah, sucks to be me in that respect, so he must have thought I was of like mind. When he said that I thought "Great, now I have to put up with this sh** for the next four years, wait a minute, no I don't." So I said, "Go to hell." The attendant got very quiet and he helped me unload my trash. If the setting is where they work you might be able to humble them.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
23. Keep it up but also Stay Safe!
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 01:15 PM
Aug 2020

these willfully ignorant people see their world and their beliefs falling apart before their eyes. They are desperate and could do anything. I expect it will get significantly worse after November 3rd because then the die will be cast and they will have failed. With nothing to lose (they ignorantly believe) they may strike out at those they perceive as "liberals."

CTyankee

(63,927 posts)
24. What I'd like to tell him:
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 01:31 PM
Aug 2020

"You know, Ryan, I know you hate it up here in liberal CT. Why don't you find a nice job in a red state where you'd have lots of friends who feel just like you do. AND, you wouldn't have a pesky union that you've got to hate. Of course, you wouldn't have a good wage there either, but you'd be union free! And, of course, no benefits either. Oh, and the Covid's real bad down there, too, but you have your freedom not to have to wear a mask! Think of that!"

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
26. Any time someone tells me such a "fact", my immediate response is "Where did you hear that?"
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 07:32 PM
Aug 2020

Usually, they're not prepared to answer that question.

CTyankee

(63,927 posts)
28. I was just too flustered too! But I did blurt that out to him and he didn't respond.
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 07:45 PM
Aug 2020

Now I understand that this kind of off the wall attack is designed to put you off kilter. The best thing to say is "I know your right wing handlers have told you to say this, because it is so off the wall. So I am aware of this tactic. Don't bother wasting your time, buddy.Now why don't you just run along."

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
29. Depends on the person.
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 07:53 PM
Aug 2020

If we're talking about a troll or a Russian bot, or some hack, yeah, I'd take your approach.

But I've also gotten some of these facts from people I know, some from childhood.

That's when I start with "Where did you hear that?" I want to hear their source. I'll tell them "You made the claim, support it. Where's your evidence?" If the person doesn't know, or got it from some Facebook meme, or from some conspiracy site or Alex Jones or similar nonsense, that's when I teach them a lesson about believing everything they read on the Internet. Though it's amazing how offended some people get when I Snopes their ass.

It's even more entertaining when they try to Snopes me and come back an hour later sputtering "Well, I guess that wasn't really true, what REALLY happened was..." My advice to them: when you're already in a hole, stop digging.

onetexan

(13,082 posts)
30. So sorry to hear. Glad you reported the rabid idiot. The past few weeks i've pinned a Biden campaign
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 08:01 PM
Aug 2020

button onto my sun visor so it's right above my forehead & clearly visible. I've worn it everywhere - groceries stores visits, Costco, trail walks, walking the dog, etc. I've seen a couple people smirk (like the guy with Hillary for Prison tshirt last week) or look the other way , and others smile & greet but so far no one has said anything either offensive or supportive to me. If they did say something derogatory i surely would have returned the favor.

CTyankee

(63,927 posts)
31. Hell I want to get a goddam shirt with Biden 's photo on it and wear it around...
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 08:22 PM
Aug 2020

or maybe one of Kamala because that one would get the Trumpers unhinged even further!

thanks for the great ideas, texan (fellow texan -- I am 3rd generation Texan, born and raised in Dallas).

onetexan

(13,082 posts)
33. Kudos CTyankee! I'm sure w/ a Kamala shirt that will really rile up trumpians LOL
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 09:01 PM
Aug 2020

We just moved down to Austin from DFW so we're "paisans"

Raine

(30,548 posts)
38. Politics doesn't belong in a supermarket 👎
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 04:41 AM
Aug 2020

I want to be free from that kind of thing when I'm at the market, there's enough if it without having to deal with it when getting food!

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