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Grasswire2

(13,575 posts)
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:30 PM Aug 2020

Does Trump think that UPS and USPS are the same thing?


Today he said that the post office should charge Amazon more money to send its packages than it currently does. Raise the rates for Amazon delivery of stuff to you.

Does he think UPS-USPS are the same damned thing?
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Does Trump think that UPS and USPS are the same thing? (Original Post) Grasswire2 Aug 2020 OP
Of course he doesn't know the difference. Polly Hennessey Aug 2020 #1
Trump wanted USPS to pull Bezos/Amazon postal contract, it's all about his Bezos jealousy. sarcasmo Aug 2020 #2
Fed-Ex uses the USPS for delivery as well frazzled Aug 2020 #3
My local PO delivers lots of FedEx packages. rickford66 Aug 2020 #5
Those are Smart Post or addressed to the post office address ms liberty Aug 2020 #12
Just telling you what my carrier said. rickford66 Aug 2020 #14
My husband has worked as a courier for Fed Ex Express for almost twenty years now ms liberty Aug 2020 #18
Just repeating what she said. rickford66 Aug 2020 #19
Trump bragged about passing a dementia test, he's that stupid uponit7771 Aug 2020 #4
the point is....Amazon does NOT use USPS AFAIK Grasswire2 Aug 2020 #6
Yes, Amazon uses US mail left-of-center2012 Aug 2020 #8
I buy a LOT from Amazon. Grasswire2 Aug 2020 #10
YOU may not have gotten it but they do use it JI7 Aug 2020 #16
You don't left-of-center2012 Aug 2020 #20
Yes it does. Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #9
well, that article is from 2018 Grasswire2 Aug 2020 #11
It's very different now Blue_Adept Aug 2020 #17
Tell it to my nephew, a USPS employee who delivers for Amazon on Sundays. Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #22
It's not, Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #21
I get almost all of my Amazon Prime packges from USPS. likesmountains 52 Aug 2020 #23
My Amazon. Packages come via US mail left-of-center2012 Aug 2020 #7
Trump doesn't know his navel from his anus so that could well be the case. Vinca Aug 2020 #13
Most of my Amazon packages come from UPS, tanyev Aug 2020 #15
And let's not forget IPS... Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2020 #24

Polly Hennessey

(6,819 posts)
1. Of course he doesn't know the difference.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:36 PM
Aug 2020

Knowing that difference is far too complicated for his pea brain. I doubt the Idiot has ever mailed a letter in his life.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
3. Fed-Ex uses the USPS for delivery as well
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:39 PM
Aug 2020

With their Fed-Ex Smart Post. Which by the way, sucks. They spend 9 days bouncing your package through multiple states (for my last Smart Post package it bounced around five surrounding states for 9 days), and then when they finally get it to the post office, boom, it’s at your door the next morning.

rickford66

(5,536 posts)
5. My local PO delivers lots of FedEx packages.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:51 PM
Aug 2020

The carrier told me that FedEx drops off packages at the end of the day for the Post Office to deliver the next day. The UPS trucks seem work late to finish.

ms liberty

(8,633 posts)
12. Those are Smart Post or addressed to the post office address
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 07:25 AM
Aug 2020

They can't and don't just drop packages off at the post office. And they work until they've completed all their deliveries and pick ups for the day.

rickford66

(5,536 posts)
14. Just telling you what my carrier said.
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 07:35 AM
Aug 2020

She said it was cheaper to pay the post office to finish the deliveries than cover the rural area here. That was a few years ago. Lately I see a FedEx truck zooming around so maybe they deliver all the packages now. Several years ago I was in the process of restoring a car. My mail lady delivered a number of FedEx packages to my home containing parts. Large ones that wouldn't fit in my box. That's when I found out. Those packages were addressed to me and I paid for FedEx shipping.

ms liberty

(8,633 posts)
18. My husband has worked as a courier for Fed Ex Express for almost twenty years now
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 08:31 AM
Aug 2020

And yes, over the years Fed Ex has in the past and still does have now some end stage delivery of some items thru the USPS. But no, they don't just drop packages they don't want to deliver at the post office 'at the end of the day' and no, they don't refuse to deliver in rural areas. I live in rural NC, and my husband and his coworkers deliver way farther into the BFE than where we live every day, on regular daily scheduled routes.
.

Grasswire2

(13,575 posts)
10. I buy a LOT from Amazon.
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 01:07 AM
Aug 2020

I never get any package except from an Amazon Prime truck or UPS delivery.

Never.

Ms. Toad

(34,138 posts)
9. Yes it does.
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 12:11 AM
Aug 2020
Amazon made a contract with the Postal Service that they would add a day of delivery on Sundays: No Postal Service packages with Postal Service postage on them are delivered; it’s just Amazon packages. You still get there at 7:30 a.m., but you’re just organizing and loading packages into your truck. Then you’re just delivering those.

https://gen.medium.com/confessions-of-a-u-s-postal-worker-we-deliver-amazon-packages-until-we-drop-dead-a6e96f125126#:~:text=Amazon%20made%20a%20contract%20with,loading%20packages%20into%20your%20truck.

Analysts have estimated that Amazon uses the Postal Service for 40 percent of its shipping

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/04/04/is-the-post-office-making-or-losing-money-delivering-amazon-packages/

Blue_Adept

(6,402 posts)
17. It's very different now
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 08:24 AM
Aug 2020

They were really just getting their fleet organized at the time because they saw what was coming.

A lot of 3rd party stuff Amazon sells still goes through postal, but people conflate things and get confused.

Ms. Toad

(34,138 posts)
22. Tell it to my nephew, a USPS employee who delivers for Amazon on Sundays.
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 10:22 AM
Aug 2020

One of the articles referenced a 10-year contract. It would have been news had it been terminated in less than 2.

And, BTW, if you go to Amazon they tell you who they they use for deliveries:

Ms. Toad

(34,138 posts)
21. It's not,
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 10:21 AM
Aug 2020

And one of those articles was announcing a 10-year year contract. Last I checked it was not 2028, and while the termination of a contract would be news, its continuation would not.

I also have a nephew who works for the post office, who delivers on Sunday for Amazon.

Finally, if you order from Amazon, and pay attention to deliveries, you know that some of them are via the post office.

And - you could also check their website and see who they say they use for deliveries:

tanyev

(42,693 posts)
15. Most of my Amazon packages come from UPS,
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 08:01 AM
Aug 2020

but some come from Amazon delivery vans and some from US mail. Maybe it varies by region.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,235 posts)
24. And let's not forget IPS...
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 10:26 AM
Aug 2020

...the fictional parcel delivery service in the Kevin James sitcom "The King of Queens."

He probably thinks that's real, too.

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