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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe polls in August 2016.
Clinton was up by 3.2 percent and then went on to win the popular vote. Now it is more like 8 to 10% Biden.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
enough
(13,273 posts)JustAnotherGen
(32,069 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,466 posts)Both conventions were long over by this date in 2016. Republics was over nearly a month, DNC was over for more than 2 weeks.
Not sure these virtual conventions will provide the normal bump. The whole thing might be flatter this year!
And, you're point about her lead and final result is important.
90,000 people in 2 states change their vote and PINO never wins.
Last point: HRC never had a lead with a number over 50, except in binary polls. This is a very different set of circumstances.
safeinOhio
(32,763 posts)many that voted a straight Democratic ticket, but left out a vote for President. I'm seeing the opposite this year with many Michigan republicans not voting for anyone for President. That along with the polls for Michigan showing Biden up by 8 to 10 points.
still_one
(92,552 posts)4%, while the others pollsters are showing more like 8 to 10% in their national polls in favor of Biden. These are National POLLS
Because that SSRS poll seems significantly out of line compared to the other pollsters, it looks more like an outlier poll
The important thing is nothing can be taken for granted, and getting out the vote is critical, which we are all well aware of here on DU
Squinch
(51,096 posts)still_one
(92,552 posts)Sometimes they try to separate them into various categories, such as dealing with the economy, pandemic, etc.
Squinch
(51,096 posts)feel somewhat better:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/national/
43% is still nauseating, but much better when viewed against the 51.3%. 10 more percent difference, and I may start sleeping at night!
Thekaspervote
(32,825 posts)NBC/WSJ
Biden 50%
dotard 41%
YOU/GOV
Biden 52%
dotard 42%
ABC/WAPO
Biden 52%
dotard 40%
still_one
(92,552 posts)OrlandoDem2
(2,072 posts)Voters still see him as strong on running the economy.
Thats a joke and Biden needs to go in for the kill.
Bottom line he must talk JOBS!!
Rick Scott and Robert DeSantis both did that. Media could ask them about the color of the sky and theyd pivot to jobs. Biden could go for the jugular by taking Trumps one relative strength left. Peel away a few percent and we have a historic win for Democrats up and down the ballot while the GOP is crippled for a decade.
still_one
(92,552 posts)isn't the economy, and economy isn't the stock market
OrlandoDem2
(2,072 posts)People want jobs and unemployment was low. Of course, when you strip all regulations and let business destroy the environment that may happen. I also a suspect the market plays a role into perception. Whatever the case I say Joe should tackle that head on somehow.
still_one
(92,552 posts)campaigning will go into full drive