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catbyte

(34,432 posts)
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 09:48 PM Sep 2012

Scott Brown personally insulted me tonight & I'm a Michigander

How dare that arrogant White asshole tell Elizabeth Warren she isn't Native American because she "doesn't look like one"????!!!!???

I am so fucking sick and tired of Rich White Men telling people who they think they are. Fuck you, Scott Brown. On second thought, eat shit and die.

How did that whole attack play in Massachusetts? I was absolutely outraged and completely offended. Asshole.

Sincerely,
An outraged Ojibwe who has fucking papers, not that shitheads like him deserve to see them.

Pardon my French.

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Scott Brown personally insulted me tonight & I'm a Michigander (Original Post) catbyte Sep 2012 OP
What emotionally psychotic drug are republican men taking these days? MichiganVote Sep 2012 #1
His kind likes everyone to be neatly pigeonholed. GreenPartyVoter Sep 2012 #2
good point! tulsakatz Sep 2012 #3
My best friend, who is 100% Odawa, has 2 blonde haired, blue eyed grandchildren catbyte Sep 2012 #7
my niece and nephew are half Eskimo because of her dad and they look Norwegian roguevalley Sep 2012 #11
that's definitely true!! tulsakatz Sep 2012 #23
one of my best friends bluemarkers Sep 2012 #12
my skin is pretty fair.... tulsakatz Sep 2012 #24
It's painfully clear he's never been to a reservation Warpy Sep 2012 #4
It's the old BS ignorant "race = culture" assumption. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #21
Seriously, he wouldn't let go of that and I was also offended by it graywarrior Sep 2012 #5
he wouldn't let go of that because it's ALL he has... the dink. she was awesome tonight! secondwind Sep 2012 #14
That and the fact that he could "go on and on about...." graywarrior Sep 2012 #34
the spanish had a term for that: 'castizo' southmost Sep 2012 #6
Fellow Michigander here MrScorpio Sep 2012 #8
Aanii, Mr.Scorpio! catbyte Sep 2012 #9
Look at all the amazing colors of skin your family has!(even in a black and white picture) tavalon Sep 2012 #26
No, I was there at the family gathering MrScorpio Sep 2012 #29
Very young, surely tavalon Sep 2012 #30
I'm turning 51 this year MrScorpio Sep 2012 #32
Dang, you are older than me! tavalon Sep 2012 #36
My son looks very white from mixing.. but he has a rather direct line to his tribe. glowing Sep 2012 #10
I am Polish descent riverbendviewgal Sep 2012 #13
I have 1/16 Nez Perce tavalon Sep 2012 #28
Look at the actor that did the littering whistler162 Sep 2012 #37
So Scott Brown can attack ELizabeth Warnen AsahinaKimi Sep 2012 #15
DESPERATION....Scottie Brown is pissed because... LovingA2andMI Sep 2012 #16
Scott Brown is The Wizard Sep 2012 #17
I'm an old white woman in Texas but I found that phrase grossly insulting and stupid. efhmc Sep 2012 #18
agree ... shireen Sep 2012 #19
I grew up near the White Earth Ojibwe reservation in MN... Odin2005 Sep 2012 #20
you will see some white fair skinned people have kids who are Brown , darker than both parents JI7 Sep 2012 #22
Wow, I didn't know you were a first American tavalon Sep 2012 #25
I don't look like an Native American either, but B Calm Sep 2012 #27
Let's be fair. GeorgeGist Sep 2012 #31
lol! renate Sep 2012 #35
My aunt is Ojibwe (and Dakota, I think) a la izquierda Sep 2012 #33

tulsakatz

(3,122 posts)
3. good point!
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 09:52 PM
Sep 2012

I saw him ask about her heritage but I missed that comment. My dad was 1/4 iindian & my grandma was 1/2 indian. I don't have any documentation for it though. But I don't look indian either....lots of people don't look like they are from one minority or another but that's no reason to believe they're not!!

haha.....I was so glad to see Reid cancel all voting today so that Brown could attend his debate!!

catbyte

(34,432 posts)
7. My best friend, who is 100% Odawa, has 2 blonde haired, blue eyed grandchildren
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 10:10 PM
Sep 2012

Scott Brown is a moron.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
11. my niece and nephew are half Eskimo because of her dad and they look Norwegian
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 10:56 PM
Sep 2012

no one would know that by just looking. He is a fucking bigot. I wrote to his office and said so.

bluemarkers

(536 posts)
12. one of my best friends
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 10:57 PM
Sep 2012

is 1/4 Cherokee. We used to joke that she tanned more walking to the beach than I did in a week.

Her daughter can barely sit out for an hour without getting red as a beet. She has 8 cousins, all but one is dark skinned. Two are naturally blonde and blue eyed

(she's an "r". I told her don't go to Arizona without her birth certificate one day a few years ago, we were talking about immigration, I had to remind her that to small minded people she looks Latina.) Is that irony or just sad?

tulsakatz

(3,122 posts)
24. my skin is pretty fair....
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:04 AM
Sep 2012

I can get a tan but I don't anymore just because I don't want skin cancer. My younger sister has light blonde hair & has always had fair skin. She burns pretty easily! Neither I nor my 2 sisters look indian....we all have fairly pale skin & all have some degree of blonde hair. My youngest sister has the lightest colored hair. Me & my older sister's hair has gotten darker, kind if a light brownish color.

In the future, Brown should play it safe when it comes to the subject of minorities & keep his mouth shut!

Warpy

(111,329 posts)
4. It's painfully clear he's never been to a reservation
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 09:59 PM
Sep 2012

especially the reservations back east, or he'd know there are plenty of blonde, blue eyed people with tribal ancestry and some of whom were raised within the tribe and are very traditional. Even here in the west, there are occasional folks with hazel eyes and light hair.

He's pointing out his own ignorance, provincialism and bigotry.

People aint horses, Scott.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
21. It's the old BS ignorant "race = culture" assumption.
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:15 AM
Sep 2012

A lot of folks that consider themselves Native culturally are mostly white because of centuries of inter-marriage. I have a former classmate who is descended from Metis and has a French surname, but identifies as Ojibwe.

That same assumption is why Obama drives them insane, he's a "black guy" who is culturally WASP and speaks with a standard Midwestern accent.

southmost

(759 posts)
6. the spanish had a term for that: 'castizo'
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 10:04 PM
Sep 2012

it was a mestizo who no longer exhibited the indigenous admixture, it was common for those who were 1/4 indigenous

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
8. Fellow Michigander here
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 10:18 PM
Sep 2012

If he said that to my family's faces they'd tell him to got to hell too.



Part-Cherokee heritage here

catbyte

(34,432 posts)
9. Aanii, Mr.Scorpio!
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 10:34 PM
Sep 2012

For someone who was a Playgirl centerfold, Scott Brown sure acts all high and mighty. He started to get a deer-in-the -headlights stare in a few clips I saw of Warren pwning him. It was pretty awesome. When are Stabenow and Hoekstra going to debate? That should be good. Hoekstra makes Brown look like Winston Churchill, lol.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
26. Look at all the amazing colors of skin your family has!(even in a black and white picture)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 05:44 AM
Sep 2012

I'm guessing, though, that that is a picture from before you were born. I've met you and you don't look to be in there. Perhaps you were a glimmer in your mom's eye?

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
29. No, I was there at the family gathering
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 06:19 AM
Sep 2012

I just didn't make it to the photo. I was probably playing with my cousins at the time.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
30. Very young, surely
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 06:43 AM
Sep 2012

It's a pretty old picture and you aren't all that old. Or you weren't in 2004, when we met.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
36. Dang, you are older than me!
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 04:33 PM
Sep 2012

But not by much. Yeah, this growing older thing isn't for sissies, is it?

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
10. My son looks very white from mixing.. but he has a rather direct line to his tribe.
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 10:45 PM
Sep 2012

And there's no doubt when the whole family gets together. .Looking at his Grandmother and aunts and uncles, some who still live on the reservation. Heather Locklear is one of their most famous tribe members, and most wouldn't presume her Native American heritage.

riverbendviewgal

(4,253 posts)
13. I am Polish descent
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 11:37 PM
Sep 2012

but I have been mistaken many times for being Native American, even by Native Americans. My favorite wrong guesser was a Secret Service guy, half Native American and Hispanic. that I met at a business conference. He said he would have sworn I was Native American

I never minded. In fact I always felt good. I often wished I was really Native American.

Scott Brown is obviously wrong by judging people's looks.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
28. I have 1/16 Nez Perce
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 05:48 AM
Sep 2012

The only people who don't mistake me for Jewish (my nose) are Jews. The first time in my life anyone ever asked me if I was Native American was at a friend's Passover. No one there thought for a moment that I was Jewish.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
37. Look at the actor that did the littering
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 04:53 PM
Sep 2012

commercial in the 70's, Iron Eyes Cody, 100% Sicilian.

Can't always tell a book by its cover.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
15. So Scott Brown can attack ELizabeth Warnen
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 11:59 PM
Sep 2012

And say she doesn't look like a Native American but Romney can put on a fake tan and speak to Hispanic Americans? Whats wrong with this picture?

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
16. DESPERATION....Scottie Brown is pissed because...
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 12:18 AM
Sep 2012

Elizabeth Warren is now LEADING by 7%. At this point GOPers will throw anything at the wall to see if it would stick. Remember....DESPERATION gets folks nowhere.

Can't wait to welcome Senator Warren win in November!!!

shireen

(8,333 posts)
19. agree ...
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 12:52 AM
Sep 2012

a co-worker, blue-eyed and blonde, is very proud of his Native American heritage (his grandmother was Cherokee). He makes exquisite crafts like pipes and arrows. He does not have any papers to prove it, but in his soul, he's the real deal and I'm sure he'd also be deeply offended by Brown's remarks.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
20. I grew up near the White Earth Ojibwe reservation in MN...
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:08 AM
Sep 2012

...and lots of people in that area are mixed race, including a bunch of my cousins.

Brown can go f*** himself.

JI7

(89,262 posts)
22. you will see some white fair skinned people have kids who are Brown , darker than both parents
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:18 AM
Sep 2012

and they find out there was a native american or some other darker skin ethnicity ancestor.

the same is true of darker people who have lighter skin kids.

but regardless to make it into some big issue just comes off as really stupid. and do people in Mass really care about this ?

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
25. Wow, I didn't know you were a first American
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 05:41 AM
Sep 2012

The rest of us are immigrants, something people like Brown and RMoney ought to ponder, if their pea brains can even do that.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
27. I don't look like an Native American either, but
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 05:45 AM
Sep 2012

I do have a trace of Cherokee blood in me coming from my mother side of the family. He insulted me too!

a la izquierda

(11,797 posts)
33. My aunt is Ojibwe (and Dakota, I think)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 12:19 PM
Sep 2012

I can't remember which reservation she was born on, but she married into my mom's family and I learned all about her culture when I was a kid. It led me to study indigenous cultures.

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