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catbyte

(34,386 posts)
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 04:15 PM Aug 2020

This Jennifer Rubin tweet & Ali Velshi nail it.



BRAVO. No one asked if Pence was a nice boss, was ambitious, was likeable. No one covered what he wore. No one asked how much his suits cost. The very same standard should apply to Biden's VP.

MSNBC’s Ali Velshi: We Need to Stop Applying Double Standards to Women in Politics

By Josh FeldmanAug 9th, 2020, 3:24 pm

MSNBC’s Ali Velshi devoted a segment of his show Sunday to calling out double standards about women in politics in the United States.

Velshi ran through a list of nations that have had women as presidents or prime ministers — “the list goes on and on, it spans every continent, but not America.”

He said right now the U.S. is on the cusp of history because Joe Biden has made it clear he’s picking a woman to be his vice presidential candidate, calling the diverse list “an empirically impressive group of women.”

“It’s going to take real effort to mess this one up, but if there’s anything America can mess up, it’s the advancement of women,” Velshi said.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbcs-ali-velshi-we-need-to-stop-applying-double-standards-to-women-in-politics/

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Video of Velshi at Mediaite link







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This Jennifer Rubin tweet & Ali Velshi nail it. (Original Post) catbyte Aug 2020 OP
Until we get there, sexism will continue...nt Wounded Bear Aug 2020 #1
That's a tautology Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2020 #2
All the other ladies on the list Scarsdale Aug 2020 #3
Until? krkaufman Aug 2020 #5
Bravo to Velshi for calling out America's deeply ingrained sexism dlk Aug 2020 #4
Has a woman ever been the head of the government LuvNewcastle Aug 2020 #6
Yes, Great Britain, Germany, India to name a few. dmr Aug 2020 #8
I'm just talking about our neighbors, LuvNewcastle Aug 2020 #9
Kim Campbell in Canada muriel_volestrangler Aug 2020 #15
Thanks. That's an interesting case. LuvNewcastle Aug 2020 #17
Kim Campbell became PM when Brian Mulroney stepped down.. Spazito Aug 2020 #25
Yes, it's hard.to.say if sexism was a major factor there. LuvNewcastle Aug 2020 #29
I can't speak for Canada or Mexico, but in the US, it's simply bout MISOGYNY. nt iluvtennis Aug 2020 #16
I see that now dmr Aug 2020 #19
No problem at all. LuvNewcastle Aug 2020 #20
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! n/t MFGsunny Aug 2020 #7
K&R smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #10
Certainly no one asked... ehrnst Aug 2020 #11
The only one I recall NewJeffCT Aug 2020 #22
And Pence has Norman Bates written all over him sandensea Aug 2020 #12
KNR niyad Aug 2020 #13
Indeed. dalton99a Aug 2020 #14
To quote Nicolle Wallace DeminPennswoods Aug 2020 #18
Ali, you are a good man. NCjack Aug 2020 #21
The "likable" thing isn't really woman-specific. thesquanderer Aug 2020 #23
I really like Ali Velshi... Upthevibe Aug 2020 #24
God forbid if anything happens to President Biden IronLionZion Aug 2020 #26
And what is truly SHAMEFUL is that CNN & MSNBC are 2 of the fucking WORST when it comes to shit like BigDemVoter Aug 2020 #27
Our standards should always be higher than the Republicans', Hortensis Aug 2020 #28

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
3. All the other ladies on the list
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 05:29 PM
Aug 2020

are deserving of appointments in Biden's administration. EVERY last one of them is accomplished and a fighter for what is right. All of them have more "balls" than tRump or Pence.

krkaufman

(13,435 posts)
5. Until?
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 05:42 PM
Aug 2020

If the Obama terms taught us anything, I’d think it would be that electing a woman as VP or POTUS is just as likely to turbo-charge sexism and misogyny — though much would depend on the degree to which the opposition would look to leverage it to their advantage.

dlk

(11,566 posts)
4. Bravo to Velshi for calling out America's deeply ingrained sexism
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 05:39 PM
Aug 2020

We are long overdue for a woman vice president and president. After the Trump debacle, could anyone realistically complain a woman in the White House might mess things up?

LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
9. I'm just talking about our neighbors,
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 06:12 PM
Aug 2020

Canada and Mexico. I know there have been several all over the the world. It just makes me wonder if there is some sort of underlying reason why possibly all of the North Americans always have men in control of their governments.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
15. Kim Campbell in Canada
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 07:02 PM
Aug 2020
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Campbell

Not for long, and she lost the election at the end in a landslide. I don't know the ins and outs of why it went so badly for her and her party - maybe a Canadian can comment?

Spazito

(50,338 posts)
25. Kim Campbell became PM when Brian Mulroney stepped down..
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 01:35 PM
Aug 2020

as Prime Minister and the Progressive Conservatives chose her to replace him. She lost the November 1993 election because the PC party was very, very unpopular by this time. The lost all but 2 seats in that election. There may well have been some sexism in the election but her defeat wasn't because of that, it was because of Canadians' dislike of her party.

LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
29. Yes, it's hard.to.say if sexism was a major factor there.
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 09:18 PM
Aug 2020

if Canadians disliked her party so much that they almost wiped them out, I'm inclined to think that her sex was maybe just the icing on the cake for people who wanted the end of the PCs.

LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
20. No problem at all.
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 08:49 PM
Aug 2020

We all misunderstand a post now and then.If that’s the worst thing you do, you can join the club.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
11. Certainly no one asked...
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 06:33 PM
Aug 2020

If Bernie Sanders was a nice boss.

Or what John Kerry's ankles looked like.

Or how Speaker Tom Foley was or wasn't hated by the GOP.

Or if Biden should apologize for criticizing Obama during the primaries.





IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
26. God forbid if anything happens to President Biden
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 03:57 PM
Aug 2020

we may have a woman president sooner than people think. I want her to be a Democrat.

It was disgusting that the first 2 Indian-American governors were Bobby Jindal and Nikki Haley. But it was awesome that our first US Senator is a liberal from California. Kamala Harris might be VP.

BigDemVoter

(4,150 posts)
27. And what is truly SHAMEFUL is that CNN & MSNBC are 2 of the fucking WORST when it comes to shit like
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 04:02 PM
Aug 2020

this. . . .

"People are saying. . ."

"I've read that. . ."

"I've heard that. . ."

BULLSHIT.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
28. Our standards should always be higher than the Republicans',
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 04:08 PM
Aug 2020

much higher, for those we elect to office. Because we believe in government of, by and for the people, which requires empowering good people. And for the most part, they don't.

Of course Rubin would agree. She's the kind of moderate conservative who believes in good government and representative government.

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