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TEB

(12,842 posts)
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 12:57 PM Aug 2020

Saw couple no mask at store

Last edited Sun Aug 9, 2020, 11:48 PM - Edit history (1)

Does anybody else get pissed seeing this selfish actions non mask wearing pimples . I got behind these fucks in the checkout The husband had Vietnam vet hat on ball cap infantry Vietnam . We’re standing in line as his wife had go get a price check on stove top she had no mask he wasn’t wearing mask either it is law here in Pennsylvania . I’m a sarcastic fuck now as old infantry soldier I get I hate stupid.

I asked dude you survived the NVA now you stupid enough to get it by virus. He just looked at me didn’t say word I’m like fucking idiot. Then his wife comes back with price check stove top they were just making production out of no mask. I told his wife you need go long way around customers service do not get near me. You wanna be drama play victim you selfish pigs. 160.000 dead that we know of yea I’m paranoid my wife is immune compromised I don’t fuck around with stupid. I ramble I just hate morons.

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Saw couple no mask at store (Original Post) TEB Aug 2020 OP
Yeah, I was getting my oil changed someone two seats away (they space people every other in mucifer Aug 2020 #1
RUN sheilahi Aug 2020 #101
Freedumb,... freedumb to be stupid and selfish. magicarpet Aug 2020 #2
Covid Really Illustrates This Fact NonPC Aug 2020 #49
Sad but true. sandensea Aug 2020 #53
come and get your free dumb right here!!! certainot Aug 2020 #99
Brings new meaning to the phrase.... diverdownjt Aug 2020 #96
nearby rw radio station calls itself FREE-DUMB RADIO (limbo, hannity, beck) certainot Aug 2020 #98
I entered a Walmart in a locale with a mandatory county-wide order and security guard at door hlthe2b Aug 2020 #3
its mandated in my state as well..but those with health issues have been told to use.. samnsara Aug 2020 #8
Stores are telling employees that to avoid confrontations underpants Aug 2020 #15
Yep, my daughter works at a grocery store and has been told not to confront them Luciferous Aug 2020 #28
Others are taking a more sensible approach Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #54
That's what they should do, but her store manager could care less. I've seen employees Luciferous Aug 2020 #72
--- mask below their chin. How da fuck do you know? 3Hotdogs Aug 2020 #19
Costco is good..... don't take no shit from any of those assholes. 3Hotdogs Aug 2020 #20
this is one big reason why we won't control covid in the us and we will be seeing 300k dead by Nov. yaesu Aug 2020 #33
Unfortunately, the dying people Scarsdale Aug 2020 #42
All the reason DownriverDem Aug 2020 #37
I'm in a progressive area, but this is a problem all over. I rarely shop Walmart, but supply chains hlthe2b Aug 2020 #40
Thanks to Trump new post master Kaiserguy Aug 2020 #97
No need to question - Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #52
That is exactly what I asked the front door guard to do. When I asked her why that wasn't her hlthe2b Aug 2020 #55
Report them to the health department Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #61
I developed this terrible case of new fucking fangled asthma Maraya1969 Aug 2020 #90
You are quite right.. hlthe2b Aug 2020 #91
Yes! I Get Annoyed, Too! ProfessorGAC Aug 2020 #4
Good for you! I bet nobody messes with you...but they would knock my teeth out and then... samnsara Aug 2020 #5
so, your store is not inforcing the mandatory mask policy? I would tell the manager you will riversedge Aug 2020 #6
I would phone or email the local heath department if mask are mandatory and report the biz. nt yaesu Aug 2020 #34
I'm a bit worried too... wcmagumba Aug 2020 #7
I hope you stay well in health TEB Aug 2020 #10
My doctor's office makes people wait in their car, and they text you when it's your turn. BComplex Aug 2020 #12
Mine does too. underpants Aug 2020 #17
The VA does that. Traildogbob Aug 2020 #21
good policy, too bad we have a joke of a federal government otherwise this kind of good practice yaesu Aug 2020 #35
Yep, I get annoyed too - maybe even more at the people who wear it below the nose. Bleacher Creature Aug 2020 #9
I agree. Scarsdale Aug 2020 #45
Yes, I am thoroughly pissed off at these selfish assholes, too Ohiogal Aug 2020 #11
Pepper spray. You should always carry it. BComplex Aug 2020 #14
Good idea Ohiogal Aug 2020 #23
Nope. Not unless you're police (or fed contractor) stopdiggin Aug 2020 #43
Two Walmarts in my area. One had a big burly bouncer at door, another a teenage girl. Midnight Writer Aug 2020 #38
i wonder how many of those anti maskers play masked dress up at night? heehee....but seriously.. samnsara Aug 2020 #13
Love ya. We will be wearing these for another year at least. Oppaloopa Aug 2020 #51
KnR Brother...nt N_E_1 for Tennis Aug 2020 #16
Yup Karma13612 Aug 2020 #18
Super spreader...indeed. 634-5789 Aug 2020 #70
Truth is, they just want their money. world wide wally Aug 2020 #22
I left a store that had too long a line with several unmasked people waiting. n/t forgotmylogin Aug 2020 #24
If you do that, make sure you find the manager and inform them exactly why you are leaving. Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #56
I'm almost at the point where it's not my concern. forgotmylogin Aug 2020 #83
The ones who won't wear a mask, House of Roberts Aug 2020 #25
good point! I'm saving a fortune on make-up.. stillcool Aug 2020 #27
Dead people walking Traildogbob Aug 2020 #26
And THAT explains Scarsdale Aug 2020 #46
?? Traildogbob Aug 2020 #64
I'd love to tell of some people I see but I'm only 140 pounds. George II Aug 2020 #29
I got you I'm 6 ft 148 TEB Aug 2020 #31
I wish I could hit everyone in the face with a brick... NurseJackie Aug 2020 #30
this llashram Aug 2020 #105
I saw a maskless guy yesterday at the grocery store that requires masks. panader0 Aug 2020 #32
He just doesn't want to enforce the rules. Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #57
Yes, I get pissed seeing the selfish actions non mask wearing jerks. Nitram Aug 2020 #36
..... lindysalsagal Aug 2020 #39
Strange thing is that in my county Doreen Aug 2020 #41
Before the mask order in my county (and then state) Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #59
this llashram Aug 2020 #44
This just happened to me at Publix's in clearwater last night. Whole family no mask I went to Oppaloopa Aug 2020 #47
Our bars are closed. I think retail stores should hire their bouncers. GulfCoast66 Aug 2020 #48
Report the store to the health department - Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #50
Those are the key words, Ms. Toad - dmr Aug 2020 #88
. Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #92
ADA doesn't apply to maskless. Nululu Aug 2020 #58
It does apply - it is just that you don't have to accommodate them Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #60
They aren't disabled, no accomodation needed in a pandemic Nululu Aug 2020 #66
That was my last line. n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #67
Agreed Nululu Aug 2020 #69
I live in PA but not going to discuss what mask wearing people HockeyMom Aug 2020 #62
I am an elderly vet and I agree with the OP. Lasher Aug 2020 #65
You cannot make blanket statements HockeyMom Aug 2020 #77
I said 'probably' on purpose to allow for rare exceptions. Lasher Aug 2020 #93
I only wear a face covering inside stores HockeyMom Aug 2020 #68
Vet or not,they are still selfish if they don't care about other people catching it. Lars39 Aug 2020 #75
You do not get it HockeyMom Aug 2020 #78
Then they are ignorant and selfish. Lars39 Aug 2020 #79
Then call elderly me Selfish HockeyMom Aug 2020 #86
My mother was in the hospital this week. Lasher Aug 2020 #63
And WE love, you, TEB! elleng Aug 2020 #71
Agreed. Evil cruel people Nululu Aug 2020 #73
You're not rambling. These are the same feelings I have seeing these selfish assholes. See it daily. Evolve Dammit Aug 2020 #74
When ever I see anyone without a mask ... aggiesal Aug 2020 #76
I give a dirty look with dagger-eyes then turn and walk away. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #81
I'm pretty tall and people say pretty intimidating ... aggiesal Aug 2020 #82
I may get more pissed off when they wear it under their nose MyMission Aug 2020 #80
I hear ya! Karma13612 Aug 2020 #85
Check out the Asheville area. MoonchildCA Aug 2020 #103
Marvelous! I will! Thanks! Karma13612 Aug 2020 #104
Preach! I am proud of you. Fuck a covidiot. nt Baltimike Aug 2020 #84
I ran to the store the other day. TruckFump Aug 2020 #87
Nope RobinA Aug 2020 #89
I use my cart defensively to block morans that aren't paying attention, or intentionally being brewens Aug 2020 #94
In states that have mandatory mask wearing . . . Aussie105 Aug 2020 #95
They're like pods from Night of the Living Dead Beringia Aug 2020 #100
I probably would have commented to my (masked) partner... TygrBright Aug 2020 #102

mucifer

(23,542 posts)
1. Yeah, I was getting my oil changed someone two seats away (they space people every other in
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 01:03 PM
Aug 2020

the waiting area) had his nose under the mask and started hacking a moist cough before I moved. I got about a week and a half to feel that I'm ok. I've never hoped someone was a smoker until that happened.

sheilahi

(277 posts)
101. RUN
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 10:49 AM
Aug 2020

Know what's worse than a maskless person or a person wearing it wrong? A maskless person wearing a "Sturgis or Bust" T shirt.

NonPC

(305 posts)
49. Covid Really Illustrates This Fact
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 02:57 PM
Aug 2020

That the population in the USA is composed of about 40% clueless, stupid, sociopathic idiots. I thought so before the virus, now I know so. I hope we are not past "the tipping point". Glad we don't have kids, this is not a country and world you want to bring them into now.

sandensea

(21,635 posts)
53. Sad but true.
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 03:03 PM
Aug 2020

And it won't change as long as these characters are pumped into any radio and tv set in the country.



(Ann's better she used to be)

diverdownjt

(702 posts)
96. Brings new meaning to the phrase....
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 05:57 AM
Aug 2020

"The stupid...it hurts"

NOW

"The stupid...it kills" no really it kills now, thanks t-rump.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
98. nearby rw radio station calls itself FREE-DUMB RADIO (limbo, hannity, beck)
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 09:51 AM
Aug 2020

get your free dumb here......

hlthe2b

(102,273 posts)
3. I entered a Walmart in a locale with a mandatory county-wide order and security guard at door
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 01:05 PM
Aug 2020

A strapping young guy in his late 20s strides up to her and tells her he has a health condition and thus can't wear a mask and lets him go right by. I was furious and stepped up to her and asked "what the hell? You know he has no health condition that precludes a mask and if he did, he shouldn't be out and about putting himself at risk." She shrugged and said Walmart instructed her not to question. Did I say this is in a locale with a mandatory mask-order since May and in a state with a mandatory order?


My anger over this is only slightly less than the a'holes (usually mid-20ish men wearing their damned mask BELOW their nose or chin). I pick my battles, but DAMN!

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
8. its mandated in my state as well..but those with health issues have been told to use..
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 01:13 PM
Aug 2020

...curbside pick up. The stores are bending over for those fake health issues...and the local Sheriffs have announced publically that its not their job to enforce it.

The security guards should loudly announce an unmasked shopper the way K Mart did with their Blue Light Special..loudly and smugly.

underpants

(182,803 posts)
15. Stores are telling employees that to avoid confrontations
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 01:32 PM
Aug 2020

Specifically physical ones.

The a holes know it and abuse it.

Luciferous

(6,079 posts)
28. Yep, my daughter works at a grocery store and has been told not to confront them
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 02:01 PM
Aug 2020

because some customers have been coming in with guns and no mask

Ms. Toad

(34,070 posts)
54. Others are taking a more sensible approach
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 03:04 PM
Aug 2020

My daughter works at Starbucks - they were given at least a dozen scenarios and trained on them until they became fluent - with the end result that Starbucks treats masklessness the same way it treats shirt- and shoelessness: No indoor service.

Luciferous

(6,079 posts)
72. That's what they should do, but her store manager could care less. I've seen employees
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 03:47 PM
Aug 2020

in the store with their masks around their necks 🙄 who knows, maybe he's a right-wing nut...

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
33. this is one big reason why we won't control covid in the us and we will be seeing 300k dead by Nov.
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 02:11 PM
Aug 2020

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
42. Unfortunately, the dying people
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 02:35 PM
Aug 2020

are the ones who have been infected by the idiots not wearing masks, mainly.

hlthe2b

(102,273 posts)
40. I'm in a progressive area, but this is a problem all over. I rarely shop Walmart, but supply chains
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 02:29 PM
Aug 2020

are no longer reliable enough to get even necessities at alternative suppliers and stores. So my disdain for Walmart and its worker policies aside, even the staunchest of progressives my not have that luxury and the populace in many areas of this country sure as hell won't.

That said, the ONLY store where I found 100% compliance and even exceeding recommendations, was a local chain of health food stores. Whole Foods, Safeway, King Soopers-- all generally show more compliance, but not like that Natural Grocer chain.

Kaiserguy

(740 posts)
97. Thanks to Trump new post master
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 07:20 AM
Aug 2020

A lot of us are having a hard time getting the items we need. The mail is how I get a lot of thing including meds.

Ms. Toad

(34,070 posts)
52. No need to question -
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 03:02 PM
Aug 2020

Just politely inform them that someone will be out momentarily to take their order.

Accommocation for those with health conditions isn't allowing to roam in the stores - it is meeting their shopping needs without endangering others.

hlthe2b

(102,273 posts)
55. That is exactly what I asked the front door guard to do. When I asked her why that wasn't her
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 03:06 PM
Aug 2020

response, she gave a collective shrug.

I bring this up not to suggest it is a new phenomenon or a unique phenomenon, but rather only because if stores are doing it in an area with a long-standing mask order and where MOST stores are trying to enforce, this will be a consequential issue nationwide. Most of these stores have offered online shopping and curbside pickup for months now, but rather than directing these mask-objectors there, they are increasingly just letting them in. Ignore at your own peril, because that is exactly what it will be.

Ms. Toad

(34,070 posts)
61. Report them to the health department
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 03:23 PM
Aug 2020

and contact the corporate office.

That's what I did with Dollar General when they gave me the, "I'm not allowed to say anything."

Dollar General is the ONLY store I have encountered where the store is not even making an attempt to comply. We have at least 95% compliance in any place that I've been. Amazing how simple it was - all it took was for DeWine to actually order it - and voila - everyone is now complying. Except Dollar General.

Maraya1969

(22,480 posts)
90. I developed this terrible case of new fucking fangled asthma
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 06:14 PM
Aug 2020

It has something to do with the eosinophils in your blood. I just started treatment two weeks ago. When I was in Costco I had on a shield and I was having trouble breathing and my face was sweating and a Costco employee asked me if I was okay I explained to him what was going on and he told me I didn't have to wear the mask. But I keep the fucking mask on. Because wearing it is not going to kill me. But not wearing it might. And I would not want to put another person in danger.

Besides I don't want to look like one of those Trump supporters.

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
5. Good for you! I bet nobody messes with you...but they would knock my teeth out and then...
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 01:07 PM
Aug 2020

...cough on me. I just give them the ol stink eye and treat them as if they smell really bad...or like if they are blowing lots of cigarette smoke in my face. Shun them and shame them.

Its mandated in my state as well but the yahoo Sheriffs refuse to enforce it. We just had our election and the Sheriffs job was between two R's...hubby and I wrote in ANY WOMAN....she she got 2 votes

riversedge

(70,218 posts)
6. so, your store is not inforcing the mandatory mask policy? I would tell the manager you will
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 01:08 PM
Aug 2020

find another store. and say it loud so all those around you hear.

wcmagumba

(2,886 posts)
7. I'm a bit worried too...
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 01:11 PM
Aug 2020

Went to a doctor appt. yesterday and one guy there at first wearing a mask but hacking and coughing like crazy. I was across the room but he was sitting right next to the check in window and receptionist...why didn't they make him move or take him to a different room? Then a lady and her high school age son came in (requirement for masks is clearly marked on the outside door) with no masks and said they forgot them...the receptionist did hand them masks which they put on...I almost left but needed to see the doctor about my issues...people are just stupid...

BComplex

(8,051 posts)
12. My doctor's office makes people wait in their car, and they text you when it's your turn.
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 01:31 PM
Aug 2020

You need to suggest that strategy to your doctor. Or, if someone has a cough or other symptoms, they need to put them immediately in an examination room and close the door.

I would complain loudly, if I were you.

underpants

(182,803 posts)
17. Mine does too.
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 01:38 PM
Aug 2020

They have a temp thing you just put your face inside the dotted line. VCU Health so it’s a big operation

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
35. good policy, too bad we have a joke of a federal government otherwise this kind of good practice
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 02:14 PM
Aug 2020

would be widespread.

Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)
9. Yep, I get annoyed too - maybe even more at the people who wear it below the nose.
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 01:21 PM
Aug 2020

Last edited Sun Aug 9, 2020, 02:49 PM - Edit history (1)

The people who don't wear a mask at all are likely to be selfish right wingers who can't be reasoned with. But the ones who wear it below the nose are willing to wear a mask, but are too lazy or foolish to take the time to think about the reason to wear one and why not covering your nose doesn't cut it.

It also pisses me off that they are putting store personnel (some of who are just kids) in the position of having to enforce the mask requirement, which can be dangerous these days.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
45. I agree.
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 02:43 PM
Aug 2020

The store clerks are putting their lives at risk for a paycheck. The LEAST people can do, is help protect them, while protecting themselves.

Ohiogal

(31,998 posts)
11. Yes, I am thoroughly pissed off at these selfish assholes, too
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 01:26 PM
Aug 2020

I am glad you tell them off. Being a woman, I am not looking for a fight with these big husky guys. Like the poster above, though, I will make an exaggerated effort to stay way wide of them and give them the stink eye.

We are under a mask mandate in Ohio too, and it seems like most everyone has one on, but quite a few of these assholes pull it down under their nose or chin once they get inside the store. And then there are the ones with mask under chin walking around blabbering away on their phones.

And what is with these stores that put a small lady at the entrance to remind people to wear a mask. They need to hire big burly guys with tattoos who look menacing.

I hate morons, too, TEB.

Midnight Writer

(21,765 posts)
38. Two Walmarts in my area. One had a big burly bouncer at door, another a teenage girl.
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 02:23 PM
Aug 2020

The one with the burly man had 100% compliance. The one with the teenage (I.m guessing, she sure looked young) girl had maybe 70% compliance.

Additionally, people were giving this little slip of a girl a lot of grief. I didn't see one person mouth off to the big guy.

Guess which store I will go to next time I'm shopping?

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
13. i wonder how many of those anti maskers play masked dress up at night? heehee....but seriously..
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 01:32 PM
Aug 2020

...dont they find those bandana neck masks kind of sexy on the men? And for the women..we dont have to wear all that face make up..who doesnt like doing up just their eyes? And for me, all the wrinkles are from the eyes down! so I coordinate masks with my new pink hair (done by me myself and i). I just ordered one 100$ for one with LED programmable message capability..from a phone app...that can be synchronized with music from my phone. So I can program it to flash BACK OFF if I want..


Since I have to wear a mask, Im going to embrace it totally...

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
18. Yup
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 01:42 PM
Aug 2020

They just don’t care.

Sturgis, ND is going to be a super spreader for sure

All we can do is do our own personal best.
Where a mask, socially distance, and give non-conformists the stink eye.

And when possible, even tell store management that you will not come back to their shop until the mask requirement is fully enforced.

I agree that stores really do need to do a better job of enforcement. I like the idea of a big burly guy at the entrance enforcing.

And I also liked the story of the Team 5 response in a food store. They surrounded the non-compliant person with 5 carts, and escorted them around the store. Then they forced the person to wait in a special line for checkout. The cashier was “on break”. After some minutes, the person gave up and left without their food, crying.

634-5789

(4,175 posts)
70. Super spreader...indeed.
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 03:46 PM
Aug 2020

These selfish fools were on CNN last night, and 2 out of the 3 interviewed said it was a political hoax, and the other one, wearing a MAGA hat said that it's a (QUOTE HERE) 'democrat conspiracy'. Yeah. Geniuses at work.

world wide wally

(21,743 posts)
22. Truth is, they just want their money.
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 01:48 PM
Aug 2020

So, probably the best thing to do is to walk out and say, "ok, you get their money but you lose mine"

Ms. Toad

(34,070 posts)
56. If you do that, make sure you find the manager and inform them exactly why you are leaving.
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 03:10 PM
Aug 2020

That's the only way these jokers will learn that it is worth their while to make the store safe for all shoppers.

forgotmylogin

(7,528 posts)
83. I'm almost at the point where it's not my concern.
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 04:41 PM
Aug 2020

I know store staff are working hard as they can. My contribution is just going to take their time and do little if they aren't already enforcing by now. My policy is to stay out of stores that won't help keep me safe. Anyone who doesn't already know this by now is beyond my help/complaint.

There are enough stores where people wear masks and I feel secure that I don't feel the need to campaign at ones that are beyond my control.

(Sorry, I don't mean to say the suggestion isn't valid, just that it feels like it's not worth my own specific time and safety to deal with it. I do appreciate the suggestion )

House of Roberts

(5,169 posts)
25. The ones who won't wear a mask,
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 01:55 PM
Aug 2020

always seem to be the ones who most need to cover their face just for aesthetics, if for no other reason...

Traildogbob

(8,739 posts)
26. Dead people walking
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 01:57 PM
Aug 2020

It is always the most illiterate, stereotypical trump bumping useless eaters I always see snuggly prancing around. Huge muffin topped brain dead’s, so proud. It still pisses me off, but I avoid going anywhere and when I do, go outta my way to walk way around them. To cheer myself up, I just remember these fat physical wrecks are gonna die painfully and bankrupt their families. Then I chuckle and come back home. Every species eliminates the genetic mistakes of its population, ya know....science. Funny thing is these zombies never died first and they HATE brains.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
30. I wish I could hit everyone in the face with a brick...
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 02:04 PM
Aug 2020

... and I normally reserve that kind of hatred and violent imagery fantasies for a couple of well know politicians.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
32. I saw a maskless guy yesterday at the grocery store that requires masks.
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 02:10 PM
Aug 2020

I asked him "where's your mask? This store requires masks." He said he didn't care. I said you are a dumb fool.
He said "Get a haircut." as I walked away.
I have called the manager of the store and he said because there is no law here in Az, there's nothing he can do.
I told him to deny them at the check out. Our governor Ducey is a trumper.

Ms. Toad

(34,070 posts)
57. He just doesn't want to enforce the rules.
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 03:13 PM
Aug 2020

All businesses have the right to dictate behavior in their establishment and to declare you a trespasser and evict you if you don't comply (as long as you aren't enforcing the rules against protected classes - race, gender, religion, etc.)

It makes zero difference that the state does not have a mask mandate - the store can declare one (and apparently has). All it has to do is to call the police and inform them the shopper is trespassing.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
41. Strange thing is that in my county
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 02:33 PM
Aug 2020

Walmart has gotten a little better about people wearing masks but for a lot they get in and either take them off or become nose dicks. Then we have a local grocery store were most people do not wear masks. Then there is Safeway where everyone wears a mask except for a very few and they do not even have a person standing there to enforce it. I live in a very red county but I am wondering if more smart people shop Safeway than the other two stores.

Ms. Toad

(34,070 posts)
59. Before the mask order in my county (and then state)
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 03:18 PM
Aug 2020

two grocery stores catercorner across the street from each other had dramatically different compliance rates (80% v less than 50%). Obviously serving the same population (and my observations were made on the same day, no more than an hour apart).

The difference seemed to be how seriously the store was taking its encouragement to wear masks. The store with 80% compliance had one way entrances and exits, one way aisles, employees standing near the carts offering a freshly sanitized cart, and safety announcements on a continuous loop in the store.

The other store had taken virtually no internal measures. One door had a rope down the middle with incoming on one side and exiting on the other. They still have bulk food you could paw through.

You get the picture. That level of care (or lack thereof) acts as a signal to those who want a welcome to idiots level of care.

Oppaloopa

(867 posts)
47. This just happened to me at Publix's in clearwater last night. Whole family no mask I went to
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 02:54 PM
Aug 2020

manager first they went to them with free masks they said no their whole family is immune compromised. BS they were trumpies laughing and touching all the produce for 20 minutes everyone was complaining about them. I rode up to the wife on my jazzy scouter and said you really should be wearing a mask. She told me she has asthma. I do too I told her and I have a inhaler she then told me to shut up I am a fucking bitch she had heard this 3 times in the store already and she would not leave the manager said they could only suggest they were one. No more Publix's

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
48. Our bars are closed. I think retail stores should hire their bouncers.
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 02:56 PM
Aug 2020

Grocery stores are making record profits which I am actually happy about. Perhaps Americans are re-learning how to cook.

I guarantee you if they had a big guy at their entrance they would have 100% compliance.

That said we finally have almost 100% mask wearing here. The best I’ve seen is ABC liquor. I was buying cigars and beer and saw a big guy in a big truck coming in with no mask. The manager told him firmly he would not be sold anything without a mask and even offered him one. The asshole just left. But did not raise a ruckus. The chain is family owned and being a good liquor store will never lack for business.

Ms. Toad

(34,070 posts)
50. Report the store to the health department -
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 02:59 PM
Aug 2020

The health department is (generally) the entity in charge of enforcement. At least where I live, they WILL follow up - and if enough complaints are confirmed they will either shut the store down - or impose fines that make the more interested in complying.

This is literally a matter of life and death (or, at a minimum, permanent injury to heart, lungs, etc.)

Then write an email to corporate informing them you will not be back until they refuse to serve customers not complying with the law.

dmr

(28,347 posts)
88. Those are the key words, Ms. Toad -
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 05:48 PM
Aug 2020

This is literally a matter of life and death (or, at a minimum, permanent injury to heart, lungs, etc.)

It is for me. I'm compromised by metastatic breast cancer, on oxygen, and age. It's in my lungs and several other places. So, if I catch it, I'm a goner. I don't go anywhere but to my doctor's visits, and the front porch. I have gone out with my best friend, but usually I sit in the car while she goes in. Not always, but usually. Everyone I interact with are super careful when they are out.

What breaks my heart is the suffering people endure once they contract this virus.

Why those who insist on being maskless don't think about the suffering of others is beyond me. Considering them as thoughtless is not a good enough answer. Especially if they consider themselves Christian. Jesus taught them differently.

Nululu

(840 posts)
58. ADA doesn't apply to maskless.
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 03:15 PM
Aug 2020

Maskless present a direct threat to health and safety of others.

ADA allows you to legally bar these lying jerks from the store. Let them sue. They aren't disabled. They are a threat to other shoppers. Owner not required to serve everyone.

Ms. Toad

(34,070 posts)
60. It does apply - it is just that you don't have to accommodate them
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 03:20 PM
Aug 2020

by letting them in the store (endangering others). You can accommodate them by shopping for them.

Aside from which - most of the reasons provided for not being able to wear a mask do not rise to the level of a disability, under the law.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
62. I live in PA but not going to discuss what mask wearing people
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 03:24 PM
Aug 2020

do INSIDE these stores, let alone outside of stores. You say you a an old Vet. My 71 year old husband is as well. Subject for a different thread, but he has Parkinson's which he believes is related to his expose to Agent Orange. He not only has trouble walking from our living room to the bathroom 10 feet but he huffs and puffs inside not wear a mask.

Do you belong to a VFW or American Legion? Do you talk to other old Vets? It might just surprise you their views on masks and coronavirus. I took a bullet in my head during Nam. I put my life on the line and dodged through gun fire to save a buddy of mine. He got a Purple Heart for that. Ask these elderly Vets if they are worried about catching the virus or about their giving it to others, and you will get a dirty look and a NO.

When our local V first opened up outside nobody was mask wearing. First day of opening they were even taking members temperatures. Next day, the thermometer was gone. Asst. Commander thought somebody stole it because they didn't like the idea.

When Gov.Wolf mandated bars serve meals, since their kitchen staff quit, this Post went back outside and hired a food truck. Does everybody EAT ordering drinks? Nope. Nobody wears masks sitting at tables drinking.They certainly don't all live in the same household at these tables. I can tell you that the Commander and Asst. Commander, who is our neighbor, do not wear masks either.

All elderly Vets, or elderly people period, do not think the way you do. Thank you for your service but welcome to the real world.

Lasher

(27,594 posts)
65. I am an elderly vet and I agree with the OP.
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 03:32 PM
Aug 2020

I don't think this difference of opinion is unique to elderly vets. If they don't want to wear masks it's probably because they are Trump followers.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
77. You cannot make blanket statements
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 04:07 PM
Aug 2020

on masks and politics. I am an elderly woman who you couldn't pay a million dollars to vote for Trump after he stalked me down a street 40 years ago. However, I part company with Democrats on health issues for myself.

I just got lucky with the ACA and aged into Medicare. Otherwise I would have just paid the fine for myself rather than spend a lot of money for something I never intended, and haven't, to use like medical prevention, testing, vaccination, etc. If I was in my normal state of mind (in shock) at and after my car crash, I could and would have refused to go to the ER.

I do not like, or want, medical tyranny, or medical experts running the country. Democrats MUST agree with everything in the Platform? I worry about what draconian health measures Biden will institute when President, but I do not want another 4 years of TRUMP.

Lasher

(27,594 posts)
93. I said 'probably' on purpose to allow for rare exceptions.
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 11:19 PM
Aug 2020

I was in the grocery store last week. I only saw one person in the whole place who was not wearing a mask. I think it's a pretty good bet that one person was a Trump follower, don't you think?

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
68. I only wear a face covering inside stores
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 03:43 PM
Aug 2020

to comply with store policy, not for my own elderly safety, or anybody's else's. I wear a double folded bandanas with inserted rubber bands which I can adjust with position of rubber bands to make as tight or lose as I want.

After months of trial and error, I discovered that I can adjust it right at the base of my nose just covering my nostrils and can breathe better. Air gets through better there. Not good enough? Does your face covering have to be at the bridge of you nose? My NOSTRILS are still covered!

Speaking of masks, when EMS put one of those standard surgical masks on me after my car crash, I discovered getting out bed and going to Restroom that the surgical mask was very LOOSE on me. I am a very small woman. I could fit my pinky finger easily inside the sides of it. AIR getting through, and breath getting out?

Think your surgical masks are the best and one size fits all?

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
78. You do not get it
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 04:14 PM
Aug 2020

If a person is not worried about catching it themselves and dying in the first place, you won't be able to convince them to JUST to protect others.

It is very similar to getting flu shots to protect others. Same mindset.

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
79. Then they are ignorant and selfish.
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 04:17 PM
Aug 2020

Who do they think takes care of them when they are dying? Nurses and doctors and aides. Who all have family. Tunneling your vision like this until you only think of yourself is selfish

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
86. Then call elderly me Selfish
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 05:32 PM
Aug 2020

Who is more likely to die from this, or the flu? Young people or the elderly? Everything we hear is you need to protect the most at risk people in society; immune compromised, the elderly, and children. Quilt to increase vaccinations, masks, etc. Compliance. Sorry if you cannot see the psychological messaging to increase compliance.

I AM elderly and believe it is up to me how to best protect myself (or not), not society. I absolve the rest of society. My 36 year old daughter is immune compromised. We are both on the same page as to society protecting vulnerable at risk us.

I do wear a mask for stores for entry. My motivation is not health reasons. Certainly not outside in parking lots. Not having my groceries delivered to my home because I am old and most at risk. I am not hiding in my home because of my age. I could die tomorrow from anything. While I am still alive, I AM GOING OUT and living my life.

Individual choice even for we Seniors.

Lasher

(27,594 posts)
63. My mother was in the hospital this week.
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 03:25 PM
Aug 2020

Only one visitor allowed. They question you and take your temperature before you are allowed in. Masks mandatory. Once inside I saw a lady in a waiting area with her mask pulled completely down under her chin. Several of the nursing staff had their noses sticking out of their masks. Why even bother if mask wearing is not going to be enforced?

Nululu

(840 posts)
73. Agreed. Evil cruel people
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 03:49 PM
Aug 2020

Maskless are pathetic losers, bullies who enjoy the thought of killing or permanently disabling others.

They are scum who drive drunk and deserve zero consideration from others.

They are willing to kill you, your kids, your parents, or your spouse.

They are disgusting sociopaths.

aggiesal

(8,914 posts)
76. When ever I see anyone without a mask ...
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 04:04 PM
Aug 2020

1st I ask why they are not wearing a mask? We all know their response, about no government is going to tell me to wear a mask.

2nd I ask if they wear clothes is public? Obviously yes.

3rd I point out that wearing clothes in public is government mandated, otherwise it's indecent exposure.

They walk away pi$$ed

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
81. I give a dirty look with dagger-eyes then turn and walk away.
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 04:23 PM
Aug 2020

I've seen the aggressive Karens and Darins who get violent with anyone who questions them. I don't need a broken nose or fractured hip. None of these idiots have anything of value that I could get in a civil suit. And even if they go to jail, I'd be the one with a pin in my hip for the rest of my life.

I'm just not brave enough to seek out that kind of in-your-face conflict. My face ain't the prettiest one around, but it's MINE and I'd like to keep scar-free and bruise-free.

aggiesal

(8,914 posts)
82. I'm pretty tall and people say pretty intimidating ...
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 04:39 PM
Aug 2020

but I also just talk to them pretty calmly.

They're looking for that in your face moment.
Just don't give it to them.

MyMission

(1,850 posts)
80. I may get more pissed off when they wear it under their nose
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 04:23 PM
Aug 2020

I work part-time in retail, a local family owned store of 3 generations. Whenever someone enters without one, we ask nicely "Do you have a mask, or do you need one?" Often they pull one out of their pocket. Otherwise we give them one, no charge, but they sometimes purchase a face covering bandana, buff, shemagh, or mask. When their nose is exposed, it's as if they're not wearing one, and asking if they realize wearing a mask that way is not helping, it defeats the purpose is more confrontational. And I don't want to get close or have a conversation when they're partially masked.

It's mandatory in NC but up to the stores to enforce, and many store owners and employees don't wear masks themselves, which pisses me off. Reporting them will do nothing.

Some stores post the regulations, apologetically or assertively, or with humor. Our store says "thank you for wearing your mask". Many stores have nothing posted, and those are the ones not wearing masks themselves. I live and work in a quaint mountain and retirement town that sees a lot of visitors and vacationers.

I generally wear a 3 ply mask, with a tissue insert as a filter. I wear the mask so I won't infect others, but hope my mask might protect me from them if/when I encounter non and partial maskers.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
85. I hear ya!
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 04:58 PM
Aug 2020

Say, would you be willing to tell me the “quaint mountain retirement town” you mean?
I am only asking because hubby and I are looking for places to relocate to that are a bit south. Northern New York is just too harsh in winter.

I understand if you can’t but, I was hoping for some good leads.

Thanks! Stay safe!

MoonchildCA

(1,301 posts)
103. Check out the Asheville area.
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 11:54 AM
Aug 2020

My daughter lives there. Lots of quaint little mountain towns in the vicinity. A couple of the towns often make “Best Places to Retire” lists. My husband and I plan on retiring in that area from California.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
87. I ran to the store the other day.
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 05:45 PM
Aug 2020

My gentleman friend was with me. We are both in our 70s. We live in LA County, CA. We are very careful about social distancing and wearing our masks.

In the parking lot even before going into the grocery store, at least 90 % of the people had their masks on walking to the door, the rest complied before entering the store but for the guy that sure thought he was an exception. Everyone going in was masked...except for this one asshole: Young while guy, pretty good sized guy, tall and husky, sailed passed us and went in.

Well, that lasted all of 30 seconds. The "security guard" was a youngish lady, very petite, and appeared to be Asian. She stopped the asshole cold! I was totally impressed. She told him he had to leave. He looked at her and hunched over and left. Two minutes later he was back with a mask. Just a plain blue medical one...and no bullshit.

That was encouraging to see. Only one asshole out of many many!

RobinA

(9,893 posts)
89. Nope
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 05:51 PM
Aug 2020

I wear my mask to avoid trouble, but I am unconvinced that they do much. Plus, I’m essential and have been working throughout. I work with hospitalized psychiatric patients and they aren’t real cooperative, so they don’t wear masks. I conduct myself in a way that I feel is as safe as possible and don’t worry too much about what other people do. If I see someone that makes me uncomfortable I steer clear.

brewens

(13,585 posts)
94. I use my cart defensively to block morans that aren't paying attention, or intentionally being
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 01:40 AM
Aug 2020

assholes. The only places I go have it posted to keep either six feet or two carts away. I'll maneuver the cart to make them go around a sufficient distance away if I have to. Some people get in the store and busy shopping and forget, but they should have the idea by now.

Aussie105

(5,395 posts)
95. In states that have mandatory mask wearing . . .
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 02:08 AM
Aug 2020

police should visit shops and if a customer is found mask less, the shop is shut down right there and then.

Compliance enforcement from shop managers would shoot up. Profit before tolerating or placating dumb customers every time.

Australia has it's own problems with people who opt out of being concerned about the virus. Border crossing with falsified documents, being officially in enforced 'quarantine' at home but just popped out to buy cigarettes 10 Km away, 'hey I'm not that sick so I'm going to work' etc.

TygrBright

(20,760 posts)
102. I probably would have commented to my (masked) partner...
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 11:51 AM
Aug 2020

...something to the effect of "Did you know we're at three Vietnam War's worth of casualties and still counting, in barely six months? That war took us 15 years to rack up one third the number of dead being mourned by their families right now."

And I would have looked all innocent... keeping my social distance, of course.

disgustedly,
Bright

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