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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums'This is unstoppable': America's midwest braces itself for a Covid-19 surge
Three months ago, the Republican governor of Missouri chose not to wear a mask in a shop, because he said he wasnt going to let the government tell him what to do. Mike Parson visited a hardware store to celebrate its reopening after he lifted Missouris coronavirus lockdown over the objections of health professionals and mayors of major cities.
Parson said the worst of the pandemic was past and the economic impact of the shutdown was worse than the virus. As for masks, the governor dismissively claimed there was a lot of information on both sides over whether to wear one so he wasnt going to require people to do so.
Three months later, Covid-19 is surging in Missouri and in many other parts of the midwest that imagined they had escaped the worst of the pandemic.
Related: 'Not a mask in sight': thousands flock to Yellowstone as park reopens
Health specialists predict a sharp increase in deaths across the region in the coming weeks that will be made significantly worse in some states by the politicians who followed Donald Trumps lead in undermining medical advice and in questioning the value of masks.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/this-is-unstoppable-americas-midwest-braces-itself-for-a-covid-19-surge/ar-BB17KkdT?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Wtf is with these repukes wanting to kill citizens? 🤬
RKP5637
(67,107 posts)effect of a devastating illness. I just don't get it, what is so hard to understand. I can't imagine the US ever surviving something several times worse than COVID-19.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)durablend
(7,460 posts)Even if it means killing themself or their loved ones.
IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,076 posts)... resentment of the, "smart kids", and nerds.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Isn't it amazing, how they cannot get pqst junior high and high school? No matter how old they are.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Like repukes don't want govt in people's personal business. Right.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)our Relatives in Minnesota and Wisconsin are saying,what Masks. So many small town events happening with out a single care of what is starring them in the face.
This is Lake Resort Season and if you have ever lived by or have friends or rellies that do the Up to the Lake thing,you just know it is about to get ugly.
Chichiri
(4,667 posts)Grocery stores, the post office, even restaurants, almost 100% mask compliance. I really think it's the red areas that suffer most. (My parents do the up to the lake thing, but they know how to be careful -- even my stepdad, the (possibly former) Trumpist.)
mgardener
(1,816 posts)We have been lucky.
Masks required and almost 100 % compliance.
But I live in a college town, the students are coming back next week
We are all worried.
Lucky the Canadians do not want the border open, our tourist population has been way down.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)once you leave the Metro,the further out you go,the less Mask usage. Yes National Retailers are some what enforcing No Mask No Service Rules. But,once you hit the smaller areas,Bars,Restaurants and local C-Stores are not enforcing diddly.
dalton99a
(81,468 posts)The Florence County Sheriffs Office told residents: Wear a mask if you want, if you dont want to, that is fine also. In Oneida county, the sheriff said the governors order is in violation of the constitution while the sheriff of Racine county called the order government overreach.
The University of Washingtons Institute of Health Metrics and Evaluation has warned that the refusal of Iowas governor, Kim Reynolds, to require masks in public spaces will cost 700 additional lives over the next three months. It predicted the number of coronavirus deaths at about 13 a day in Iowa by the end of October with the present policy compared to fewer than two if 95% of people used face coverings.
In Kansas, the Republican-controlled legislature tied governor Laura Kellys hands by preventing her from limiting the numbers of people in bars and restaurants or closing businesses until mid-September even as coronavirus cases increase. Republicans said there was no need for Kelly to have those powers because there would not be a second wave until after September.
CrispyQ
(36,461 posts)My bad. Most of those laws were passed before the GOP decided to obstruct rather than govern. Newt Gingrich must be so proud.
durablend
(7,460 posts)I'm surprised they don't consider stop signs and traffic lights to be illegal and "a violation of muh freedums"
Marthe48
(16,949 posts)also using turn signals, having headlights on at dawn and dusk, other laws seem to be violations of their rights. :/
CrispyQ
(36,461 posts)"I can see just fine." Of course you can moron, but nobody can see you. Get it?
Marthe48
(16,949 posts)Oh well, what goes on behind my mask, stays behind my mask! lol
progree
(10,904 posts)and right wing hate social media, to name a few
Getting something like that passed nowadays would be impossible.
murielm99
(30,736 posts)I see a lot of maskless morons.
I drove by our local farmer's market yesterday. Only ONE vendor was wearing a mask.
I drove on. They don't need my money. They don't deserve it.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)"It's just like the flu." I didn't know that many people enjoyed getting the flu.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)In med bills on the way to the funeral!
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)Put the whitewalls on the outside so it moves quicker.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)👍
stopdiggin
(11,301 posts)askin' for a friend ...
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)I was working off a joke by Foxworthy or Blake Clark.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)/sarc
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)🤣🤣🤣👍
RKP5637
(67,107 posts)WTF, how could this happen. In this case for many it will be death or a long term devastating effect to their body. I keep coming back to the US society, what is wrong, how could so many have such really stupid beliefs.
BComplex
(8,049 posts)Trump has let the russians come right in on our radio waves. I seriously doubt russia would invite msnbc.
WyattKansas
(1,648 posts)They will keep riding the 'blame the Democrats' outrage, because they will only accept FUX Newz and Soviet propaganda as real (alternative) news.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Oh, it was eminently stoppable, folks. It's just that some people in influential positions preferred to indulge in pointless disputes about simple countermeasures. Then they utterly wasted the initial herculean effort by the American people by doing a whole lot of nothing. As surely as night follows day, the failure to follow the guidelines results in more infections, more hospitalizations, and more deaths, and Gov. Parson defends his indolence with "there was a lot of information on both sides." Because he had no obligation at all to see whose information was grounded in science and public health epidemiology and whose information was so much nonsense. Who could tell?!
Midnight Writer
(21,753 posts)Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)business closings job losses, foreclosures, food insecurity (! thanks Reagan) all can be placed at the feet of tRump and his "advisors" who ignored the warnings. SOMEONE should have stepped up and said something about the PDB's being ignored. This entire disaster is their fault. They can call it the China virus all they want to, the warnings came and were ignored. This is the tRumpandemic. Thousands of lives lost, other lives ruined. All their fault. Anyone in a private sector job who caused even a fraction of this disaster would have been fired, no good references, just shoved out the door. Government employees can total screw up millions of lives, and it is glossed over. We need to know the name of EVERYONE who knew this pandemic was coming, and said nothing. Charges should be filed. At the very least, charged with derelection of duty. tRump needs to have this total disaster hung around his fat neck for the rest of his miserable life.
dchill
(38,481 posts)ancianita
(36,048 posts)tough, smart, united, disciplined and loving -- they will die like lemmings over the cliff even after a vaccine is available.
Delmette2.0
(4,164 posts)Montana and surrounding states are paying the price. Our infection rates have sky rocketed. I know, i know 100+ doesn't sound like much compared to the southern states, but this is my home, my family my life. So FUCK YOU for coming here and not respecting our lives because of the low infection rate. We did what was the right thing to do and YOU took advantage of it so YOU wouldn't get sick. Well ,YOU are making us sick.
Just FUCKING GO AWAY!
I apologise to my fellow DUers. I know you are not the problem. This rant is for the trolls on this site.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)🤬
Delmette2.0
(4,164 posts)I can't wait for tourist season to be over.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Tourists are a pain in the ass. Now add covid & recipe for disaster! Who in their right mind would go anywhere nonessential now? Covidiots! 🤬
Delmette2.0
(4,164 posts)You protect me, not the other way around.
Mr.Bill
(24,284 posts)There are tourists here in the summer. Some years ago there was a popular bumper sticker that said:
If it's called tourist season, why can't we shoot them?
Delmette2.0
(4,164 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(11,599 posts)Delmette2.0
(4,164 posts)bringthePaine
(1,728 posts)peggysue2
(10,828 posts)Yeah, cures it the hard way, by way of death or compromised health issues for life.
We will no doubt see a preventable tragedy after this huge biker's rally in SD. The crush of people, no preventative measures, and then bikers going back home carrying the virus to family and friends. And, of course, a Trumper Governor who values Freedumb over life and limb.
The Kool-aid is potent with these people.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,680 posts)They did. They just are too selfish to keep even themselves safe.
llashram
(6,265 posts)following their leader. And most know where lemmings end up
Warpy
(111,254 posts)Columbia U School of Medicine has posted last spring's virology course online and I've been kicking and clawing through it since virology in the days before HIV wasn't covered very thoroughly in my then excellent micro course.
The professor stated around class 5 or 6 that coronavirus would likely follow the SARS Cov1 pattern and be gone by the beginning of summer. I think that view was likely prevalent then but as the infectiousness of this thing became known, experts revised their opinions.
The problem is that Dumdum and his acolytes didn't keep up. Dumdum is incapable of it and his acolytes trusted him to have the latest information and with Dumdum contradicting Dr. Fauci at every opportunity, the stage was set for an horrific epidemic.
The problem is really the old religion vs. science tension. Religion is kept static, the texts remain the same even if the misinterpretations vary. Science can change hourly as data come in and clarify the original picture. People who rely on the former are simply not going to be able to cope with the latter and are going to feel lied to every single time.
That is what we're up against here and why those folks are so defiant about not doing anything to protect themselves or others. They're pissed off when information comes in and changes things and think science lies to them.
This is as good a theory as any. They're not all hateful, they just can't handle mixed messages. Dumdum shoots from the lip and then doubles down on his lies. To them, that's telling the truth because he refuses to change.
geretogo
(1,281 posts)population is so dumbed down their hatred of the truth is going to put them in an early grave .
Upthevibe
(8,042 posts)Ray Gun: "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government, and I'm here to help'." Eliminate the Fairness Doctrine in 1987 - Thanks for giving us Rush Limbaugh (who IMHO, quite possibly has caused more harm than anyone almost ever by fear-mongering and creating a hatred towards The Libs that's astonishing), throw in Trickle Down Economics - And you now have the sh** show called the U.S.A.
Marthe48
(16,949 posts)I'm prepared to wear a mask and observe other safeguards for the rest of my life. I am planning to be alive in Nov (or Oct) to cast my vote. At least I hope to avoid dying from Covid-19.
Some of the stupid people who have literally and figuratively chosen this hill to die on will not be here in Nov. to vote. They will not be here in future to fall in line with bad policies. They are causing harm and injury right now, and innocents are paying for their bully rush to death. I wish it wasn't like that, and I mourn the loss of grandparents who bake cookies and play with their grand kids, pass along lore, share the stories of people in our family. I mourn the loss of younger people who fought in the front lines, who tried to make a difference. I mourn for the people who will be impaired until they die, because even though they used the guidelines, some putz infected them with Covid-19. Just do what you need to do to stay safe. I know what I do, and I know not everyone is going to do everything I do. But I know if I do it for myself, I am doing all I can to avoid getting sick or making someone sick.
RKP5637
(67,107 posts)JCMach1
(27,556 posts)Near you
grantcart
(53,061 posts)moondust
(19,979 posts)Whenever possible to determine, responsible citizens who have diligently followed the COVID guidelines should receive priority treatment IMO.
Crunchy Frog
(26,579 posts)Hulk
(6,699 posts)And in most rural areas in Texas Oklahoma Kansas and Idaho... and to a lesser extent Utah and Oregon.... wearing a mask drew attention to you. I often felt the look of scorn on the faces of the dumb fuckers.
An old friend took me into his favorite hangout where he shoots pool... and there were about 30 patrons, no one wearing a mask. In fact if they came in wearing a mask they immediately took it off.
This is what we're dealing with, and this is why we are failing miserably.