The GOP owns Trump on SSI and Medicare

[jpak]

If they allow him to defund those programs, they will reap the whirlwind in November.

Yup

[Eliot Rosewater]

1. Putin's orders, and Bannon's wet dream is to destroy ALL American institutions including SS

and Medicare along with all branches of the government and our intel.

Traitor is doing his best with the help of Kushner and others.

[SheltieLover]

2. Yup!

[rurallib]

4. That's been Republican wet dreams since FDR

[RKP5637]

13. Exactly!!!!!!!! And helps kill off more people. Next will be Soylent Green to feed the masses! n/t

[ResistantAmerican17]

5. Please, by all means, proceed republican sphincters. Keep cowering till you're

completely gone.

[Mariana]

6. That probably won't lose the R's many votes among their senior supporters.

Most seniors know very well that their Social Security benefits are safe. Current recipients will never have their benefits cut. Benefit cuts are always proposed for future retirees. Trump voting seniors (which were the majority of seniors in 2016) have no problem whatsoever with that. They are perfectly happy to see the younger people fucked over.

[tblue37]

7. But many of those seniors don't want to die of covid. nt

[Mariana]

8. This thread is not about Covid. nt.

[tblue37]

9. But the post above mine was saying seniors would still vote for him, despite his

defunding of SS , Medicare, and Medicaid, because that won't affect their payouts.

I'm saying that if defunding those programs doesn't undermine him with seniors, his willingness to sacrifice seniors in an uncontrolled pandemic just to open up the economy might do the trick, at least for many seniors.

[Mariana]

22. No, I said the payroll tax issue won't lose the R's many voters

because I was responding to the OP, and I did not want to hijack the OP's thread. This thread is about SS and Medicare and the payroll tax bullshit.

Covid may very well lose the Republicans votes from seniors, but that is a separate issue and is not the topic of this thread.

[Thekaspervote]

11. a lot of seniors will be very frightened, unable to grasp that it may not hurt them

Not all but lots!

[Mariana]

14. But probably not the ones who vote Republican.

Those fuckers never think anything bad is going to happen to them on account of their votes for the likes of Trump.

[RKP5637]

17. Yeah, they think Trump is their BFF. What F'en idiots. n/t

[octoberlib]

12. Seniors have already been moving over to Biden due to COVID. My mother who's retired and

receives her SS check every month just called me and asked if the money would run out. Democrats need to get some ads out there implying this.

[RKP5637]

16. Excellent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t

[Mariana]

18. Is your mother a Republican and Trump voter?

I don't think they'll lose many votes on account of the payroll tax. His retired supporters assume they're safe from benefit cuts - and they're probably right about that.

[RKP5637]

15. Not this one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t

[Mariana]

19. Not this one what? nt.

[RKP5637]

24. Not this one what? Seniors: "They are perfectly happy to see the younger people fucked over." n/t

[Mariana]

25. It really helps if you read the entire post. I wrote:

Trump voting seniors (which were the majority of seniors in 2016) have no problem whatsoever with that. They are perfectly happy to see the younger people fucked over.

So you see, I very clearly was not talking about YOU or anyone else here on the DU.

[RKP5637]

28. Quite true ... Sorry, I read it too quickly! n/t

[Iliyah]

21. The government is borrwing money from medicare, medicaid and SS. . ..

Seniors would see a deduction in their SS checks and benefits from Medicare. Many seniors were afraid of this happening, but on a good note, t-rump does not have authority, only congress.

This action of his does put senate republicans on the hook tho

[Mariana]

23. "Seniors would see a deduction in their SS checks and benefits from Medicare."

Did you mean to say they would see a reduction, or did you mean deduction?

[octoberlib]

10. McConnell may agree with Trump but he knows how bad this is in an election year.

Trump wanted payroll tax cuts in the first bill, McConnell refused. Defunding SS and Medicare is lethal. Remember when Bush tried to privatize SS?

[onethatcares]

20. defunding either program would be

the death knell of the republicon party. We boomers aren't exactly stupid but we have grown up and worked toward the day that we would be able to at least rest a bit and not have our homes taken away due to medical bills and being "broke".

Too few have saved and fewer still have pensions that haven't been tapped or shorted due to the bullionaires needing more, more, more.

I keep trying to picture 3,000,000 people on the Washington Mall on walkers and wheelchairs protesting against this crap but then realize too many have watched faux news over the years and feel they don't deserve it..

Gaud, I'm getting tired.

[WyattKansas]

27. Dumbass Donnie just sees how much money is in the Trust Funds and not the obligations...

So he wants to blow the hell out of it enriching himself and his spawn, so he can be King of the World.

The shit stains that won't stand up to him think they are going to get a cut from him, but they haven't counted on Dumbass Donnie screwing them over too, just like he does to everyone.