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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 06:53 AM Aug 2020

Ship Called 'Trump D' Moored in Ukraine brought 3x the amt of Ammonium Nitrate that blew up Beirut

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ukrainian-port-has-ship-named-trump-d-with-10000-metric-tons-of-the-same-explosive-that-blew-up-beirut



Port authorities claimed the cargo, offloaded from ship TRUMP D, named after the U.S. president, is safe because it is in “big bags” just like those in Beirut.

Barbie Latza Nadeau
Correspondent-At-Large

Updated Aug. 07, 2020 10:20AM ET / Published Aug. 07, 2020 7:29AM ET

An American-owned cargo ship named after the president of the United States docked in a Ukrainian port has just offloaded 10,000 metric tons of the same chemical substance that nearly leveled the city of Beirut this week, according to the Liveuamap news source. The hangar in Lebanon only had 2,750 metric tons of ammonium nitrate, which caused catastrophic damage to the Lebanese capital.




The ship docked in Ukraine, which was previously named Seabreeze before a Florida company registered as Pilin Fleet Management LLC purchased it in 2018, and renamed it Trump D, was registered by Marine Traffic tracking website in the Yuzhi port near Odessa on Friday.

Ukrainian Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal has now ordered “relevant checks” on the storage condition of the substance, which is primarily used for agricultural fertilizer or high-powered explosives after port officials claimed it was safely stored in “big bags.”

Photos online suggest that the ammonium-nitrate powder was also stored in similar “big bags” in the port of Beirut when it detonated, likely sparked by a nearby fire Tuesday afternoon.

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From MarineTraffic.com:

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Ship Called 'Trump D' Moored in Ukraine brought 3x the amt of Ammonium Nitrate that blew up Beirut (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Aug 2020 OP
Would you want to be on that ship? smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #1
What does the D stand for? Debacle? Disaster? tanyev Aug 2020 #2
Dumb? Douchebag? Dick? Damned? Drunk? Drugged? Diseased? cstanleytech Aug 2020 #3
Demented. SammyWinstonJack Aug 2020 #7
From the form in his future incarceration papers for his orange jump suit tag .... marble falls Aug 2020 #10
D DOTARD magicarpet Aug 2020 #16
Depraved. Mr. Evil Aug 2020 #17
Demonic. Destructive. Depressing. Nt lostnfound Aug 2020 #24
My guess is Donald. gab13by13 Aug 2020 #4
Typical. Ship flagged out of St. Kitts in the Caribbean so it's US owners can avoid taxes and Liberal In Texas Aug 2020 #5
So it's a poop boat underpants Aug 2020 #6
At first when I saw "ship called Trump D" PatSeg Aug 2020 #8
Donnie Two Scoops thinks its a battleship. marble falls Aug 2020 #11
Ha, ha, that did occur to me! PatSeg Aug 2020 #13
+1 dalton99a Aug 2020 #27
I remember the Beach Boys singing about this DFW Aug 2020 #12
Wow, you came up with that fast! PatSeg Aug 2020 #14
With a ship named like that DFW Aug 2020 #25
5 minutes? PatSeg Aug 2020 #26
Sometimes I do, I think DFW Aug 2020 #28
You're not only fast PatSeg Aug 2020 #30
No, just the lyrics and guided the audio DFW Aug 2020 #31
There were some excellent vocals PatSeg Aug 2020 #33
Last decade full time, and in Europe for much before that DFW Aug 2020 #36
Whoa, she's incredible PatSeg Aug 2020 #39
She did Cher, too DFW Aug 2020 #40
Really? PatSeg Aug 2020 #47
Feel free to spread them around DFW Aug 2020 #48
Will do PatSeg Aug 2020 #50
NICE one! thanks. n/t MFGsunny Aug 2020 #19
Nice malaise Aug 2020 #22
Cool... JustGene Aug 2020 #29
Good one! classof56 Aug 2020 #44
Oh great so this is a "thing" now? Who's behind this? US & Russia? Absolutely INSANE! Illumination Aug 2020 #9
Fertilizer is insane? GulfCoast66 Aug 2020 #38
This "thing" has been going on for decades sarisataka Aug 2020 #43
Millions of tons are shipped every year. Scruffy1 Aug 2020 #15
It's not on the ship anymore. It's in the port. gristy Aug 2020 #18
Headline wouldn't fit - had to modify it Dennis Donovan Aug 2020 #23
K and R dewsgirl Aug 2020 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author dewsgirl Aug 2020 #21
An alternate headline- sarisataka Aug 2020 #32
Given the name of the ship... GopherGal Aug 2020 #35
. sarisataka Aug 2020 #37
Yuzhne. moondust Aug 2020 #34
I was listening to a reporter on BBC Sgent Aug 2020 #41
Enormous quantities of ammonium nitrate are shipped Codeine Aug 2020 #42
They sure are! All via ships named after Trump! Dennis Donovan Aug 2020 #46
I find it curious that the ship was just renamed to "Trump D" on June 25th of 2020 fescuerescue Aug 2020 #45
"American ship"? JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2020 #49

marble falls

(57,137 posts)
10. From the form in his future incarceration papers for his orange jump suit tag ....
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 09:09 AM
Aug 2020

"Name (last name first, first name initial next): Trump, D"

Liberal In Texas

(13,565 posts)
5. Typical. Ship flagged out of St. Kitts in the Caribbean so it's US owners can avoid taxes and
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 08:27 AM
Aug 2020

regulations for things like safety.

The D is for Deadbeat. Like it's namesake.

PatSeg

(47,551 posts)
8. At first when I saw "ship called Trump D"
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 08:57 AM
Aug 2020

I thought is was someone be snarky. Can't believe someone actually named a cargo ship after the man. If that's not tempting fate, I don't know what is. Then the fact that the ship was carrying ammonium nitrate made it read like The Onion. Trump and his supporters have effectively killed satire.

PatSeg

(47,551 posts)
13. Ha, ha, that did occur to me!
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 09:17 AM
Aug 2020

He'll never get a battleship named after him, instead he gets a fertilizer hauling cargo ship! Pretty appropriate.

DFW

(54,420 posts)
12. I remember the Beach Boys singing about this
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 09:12 AM
Aug 2020

We sailed on the ship Trump D
My grandfather and me
Around the Black Sea ports we did roam
Booze in a cup
Trying not to blow up
I fear in one piece I might not come home

So, grab enough for my bail
This is as bad as it gets
Get my ass to shore and let me fly home
That ship is a bomb
I want to see Mom
When that thing blows up
I wanna be home!

PatSeg

(47,551 posts)
26. 5 minutes?
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 12:10 PM
Aug 2020

It may have practically written itself, but it is still pretty impressive. You must think in verse!

DFW

(54,420 posts)
28. Sometimes I do, I think
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 12:16 PM
Aug 2020

These were all written in less than half an hour:






I just get an idea and have to write it down fast, or else I forget just as quickly.

PatSeg

(47,551 posts)
30. You're not only fast
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 12:27 PM
Aug 2020

You are prolific as well. Did you do the video too? These are really impressive and excellent song choices.

DFW

(54,420 posts)
31. No, just the lyrics and guided the audio
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 12:45 PM
Aug 2020

The videos were done by a brilliant videographer called Don Caron. His "Parody Project" has done about 50 videos. We have collaborated on 10 or 12 of them. He did the audio on Mar-a-Lagoville and Act Naturally, too. The others were recorded by my "The Freedom Toast" project in Atlanta. I sometimes play on the songs, but only when I happen to be in Atlanta during recording sessions. Otherwise, I just write the lyrics and direct from afar, since I live in Germany.

PatSeg

(47,551 posts)
33. There were some excellent vocals
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 01:08 PM
Aug 2020

and animation as well. A lot of talent went into those videos.

It must be surreal watching what all is happening here from so far away. Have you been in Germany long?

DFW

(54,420 posts)
36. Last decade full time, and in Europe for much before that
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 02:22 PM
Aug 2020

TFT has a depth of great musical talent. Sinatra, George Benson, we can do them. And our current woman singer did brilliant versions of both Tammy Wynette and Petula Clark:




Those last two were both guest-written by my brother, by the way! He still lives in the States.

PatSeg

(47,551 posts)
39. Whoa, she's incredible
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 02:56 PM
Aug 2020

Sounded just like Petula Clark and Tammy Wynette! What an amazing voice.

PatSeg

(47,551 posts)
47. Really?
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 09:01 PM
Aug 2020

Her Cher was wonderful as well. Thanks for sharing the videos with us. I shared some of them on Facebook.

sarisataka

(18,724 posts)
43. This "thing" has been going on for decades
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 03:22 PM
Aug 2020

Ammonium nitrate has been widely used since at least WW2 as a fertilizer and the base for industrial explosives.

Large quantities have been moved by ships for a very long time. The original buyer of the shipment that became stranded in Beirut considered the 2700 tons to be a small order.

Scruffy1

(3,256 posts)
15. Millions of tons are shipped every year.
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 09:21 AM
Aug 2020

In Minnesotathere is a huge distribtion center on the Mississippi south of Minneapolis where fertilizers are brought up the Mississipi by barge. Ammonium nitrate is safe as long as there is no big fire. It only becomes explosive at high temperatures. It seems in Beirut it was stored alongside fireworks.

Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

sarisataka

(18,724 posts)
32. An alternate headline-
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 12:51 PM
Aug 2020

"Ship Delivers Large Cargo of Fertilizer to Agricultural Country"

Although I would suspect less people would click on that one.

moondust

(20,002 posts)
34. Yuzhne.
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 01:44 PM
Aug 2020

Next to Odessa. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuzhne

This could have Putin's fingerprints on it. Also in the region, in 2018 Russian boats intercepted three Ukrainian ships in the Kerch straight and closed access to the Sea of Azov where there are other Ukrainian ports. The ship that unloaded the ammonium nitrate in Beirut was owned by a Russian businessman and captained by a Russian who says he warned Putin regularly that it was a powder keg.

Ukraine was known as the breadbasket of the Soviet Union for its fertile fields of wheat (implying the need for fertilizer).

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
41. I was listening to a reporter on BBC
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 03:13 PM
Aug 2020

today who was talking with an expert in this stuff, and apparently the material in Beirut would no longer be allowed in international shipping channels as an agricultural product, but would be considered weapons grade.

I have no idea what the stuff is in Ukraine, but there are are different types with different amounts of nitrogen.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
42. Enormous quantities of ammonium nitrate are shipped
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 03:17 PM
Aug 2020

into ports all over the world on a daily basis. Carefully stored and properly monitored it’s perfectly safe and constitutes a normal part of global agriculture.

What an idiotic article.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
45. I find it curious that the ship was just renamed to "Trump D" on June 25th of 2020
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 04:34 PM
Aug 2020
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:376842/mmsi:341823000/imo 143312/vessel:TRUMP_D

Former name was "Seabreeze"

I don't think there is anything to this story, except a weirdly named ship carrying an extremely common cargo.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,362 posts)
49. "American ship"?
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 07:33 AM
Aug 2020

It's not flying the U.S. flag, but the flag of Saint Kitts & Nevis. So, is it "American-owned"?

I guess it's no different than a U.S. citizen touring Europe with a Canadian flag on his backpack.

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