I had a pain clinic appointment today and I had to drive from Lansing to Grand Rapids, MI.

[catbyte]

I did not see one Trump/Pence bumpersticker or sign. Lots for Biden, and a few "Literally Anyone Else 2020" and "Vote Blue No Matter Who." I know this is anecdotal and not scientific at all, but Grand Rapids is the heart of the Dutch Mafia Belt/De Vos territory, so it's a change from past elections.

It's encouraging.

[panader0]

1. "Dutch Mafia Belt"?

The things you learn on DU.

[empedocles]

2. Goes clear to Holland . . . Holland, . . . Michigan that is

[roamer65]

3. West MI is very different than SE Michigan.

However, maybe Dump is changing that for the better.

[leighbythesea2]

4. Was gone

For 18 years. Bought a house near my mom to help out. Little North of GR. 2016. Depressing amount of trump supporters.
So I'm glad to hear it! I'm in my other place in another state. Mom's with me.
Yeah the dutchies are....well....love your description!

[safeinOhio]

5. That is news.

GR seemed to be a Publican strong hold.

[Johnny2X2X]

6. I love in NE Grand Rapids

Upper middle class neighborhood with some spots of wealthy. Not a single Trump sign in my neighborhood. Almost no signs at all. My Biden sign and a neighbors Bernie sign are the lone signs in our little sub division. And my normal drives to stores I have seen zero Trump signs too. Several Biden, several Any Functioning Adult signs. This is an area that went Trump.

It’s crazy, only place you see Trump signs is on the highway in the country.

[SheltieLover]

7. Ty, Cat!

Glad to hear!

Here in TN, vehicles would be heavily vandalized for having a Biden or anti-chump sticker.

Vandalism is widely considered "having fun" to a great % of people here.

Like living in hell.

[Leith]

8. Very encouraging

I went to college in Kalamazoo where I discovered the great divide between east and west Michigan. Northern lower peninsula is slightly scarier than Mordor.

[catbyte]

11. I hear ya. I grew up in Charlevoix, a slightly liberal bastion in Mississippi of the North.

[PatSeg]

9. Oh, that's very reassuring

Thanks for posting!

[Larissa]

10. So the Dutch Mafia

uses wood instead of cement shoes for folks getting the final swim?

[smirkymonkey]

12. Good to hear, catbyte!

Thanks for the encouraging news!