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BigmanPigman

(51,587 posts)
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 12:23 AM Aug 2020

What did Blumenthal see in reports of foreign threats to our elections?

Richard Blumenthal
@SenBlumenthal
Shocked & appalled—I just left a 90 minute classified briefing on foreign malign threats to our elections. From spying to sabotage, Americans need to see & hear these reports.

Protect our democracy from destruction by declassifying key intel describing the danger of foreign subterfuge to our elections. Congress has been briefed, but sworn to secrecy—unacceptably.

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What did Blumenthal see in reports of foreign threats to our elections? (Original Post) BigmanPigman Aug 2020 OP
I think we may soon find out. Cracklin Charlie Aug 2020 #1
Man, we suck at messaging... Who says the word "malign"? zaj Aug 2020 #2
If you're gonna at least say 'malignant' ... most people do know that one and that it's bad (nt) mr_lebowski Aug 2020 #3
Oh, bollocks. Is that simple enough language for you? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2020 #8
It's not about my feelings... It's about gaining support of the general public zaj Aug 2020 #9
Of course your post was about your feelings. muriel_volestrangler Aug 2020 #10
"Malign" is not an obscure word for pete's sake. Mike 03 Aug 2020 #12
Actually.... Tanuki Aug 2020 #11
Foreign malign threats cilla4progress Aug 2020 #4
show of hands - who else is overfed with this Repussian "secret" bullshit? bringthePaine Aug 2020 #5
Whoa! yonder Aug 2020 #6
Kremlin's strategy since 2016 is consistent--"secure the base, split the opposition." Hortensis Aug 2020 #7
How many quid pro quo's is trump counting on??? spanone Aug 2020 #13

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
1. I think we may soon find out.
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 12:26 AM
Aug 2020

A redacted version, anyway.

Senate Intelligence committee voted to release. In the coming days.

Buckle up!

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
2. Man, we suck at messaging... Who says the word "malign"?
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 12:37 AM
Aug 2020

Sorry, but these messages are so important, and we lose people when we talk past them. This news is critical.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
3. If you're gonna at least say 'malignant' ... most people do know that one and that it's bad (nt)
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 12:46 AM
Aug 2020

muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
8. Oh, bollocks. Is that simple enough language for you?
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 09:03 AM
Aug 2020

I say 'malign'. I also say 'bollocks'. I have the vocabulary of an adult, and so do the vast majority of voters. How many people do you really think have both never heard of the word 'malign' before, and can't guess it from being like 'malignant', and also can't guess it from the context of "foreign malign threats"?

Don't you long for a politician who doesn't just describe everything as "evil" or "great"?

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
9. It's not about my feelings... It's about gaining support of the general public
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 10:02 AM
Aug 2020

I'm glad you are satisfied with the word. It's nice to have your feelings reinforced.

But words like malign aren't common, and are quite striking when an average person hears it. They are given a road block understanding.


Be Careful Using Big Words
Why should you care about something so trivial?

If you’re looking to convert browsers into buyers, you’ve got to build trust and credibility. Now imagine how hard that would be if people think you’re an idiot. …

I’ve always railed against people who use big words for the sake of using big words. But now, I’ve finally got research that allows me to tell these people:


Princeton researchers ran three experiments:

In the first experiment, they wrote admissions essays. The first was an original essay. The second, a moderate-complexity essay. And the third, a high-complexity essay.

How were these essays rated?

The simple essays were given higher ratings than the moderately complex ones, and the moderately complex ones were given higher rating than the highly complex ones. Or in other words…

Using big words can KILL your chance at attending college.

Use big words and you’ll suffer the consequences.

In the second experiment, they wanted to control for content. So, they found foreign texts. In one scenario, they created a simple translation. In another, they created a complex translation.

What happened?

Once again, the more complicated vocabulary negatively influenced raters’ assessment of the text. And this was found regardless of prior expectations of the author’s intelligence.

Or again, in other words: using big words makes people hate you.

And finally, in the third, most telling experiment, here’s what happened:

Researchers got together some research. And they took the first 144 words of that research. In one case, they left it intact. In another case, they replaced all words with nine or more letters with its second shortest entry in the Microsoft Word Thesaurus. They then had people rate the excerpt.

What happened?

When people read the less complicated version, the people reading it assumed the author was more intelligent than when reading the more complicated version.

The data is clear.

Using big words makes people think you’re stupid.

Stop using them. ...

When you’re in business, you might be tempted to over describe what you do with complex language to make it sound like you’re a badass. But people don’t buy what they don’t understand.


https://socialtriggers.com/the-big-problem-with-big-words-hint-they-make-you-look-stupid/


muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
10. Of course your post was about your feelings.
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 10:09 AM
Aug 2020

There's nothing "complex" about the tweet. "Malign" is not a "big word".

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
12. "Malign" is not an obscure word for pete's sake.
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 10:29 AM
Aug 2020

Sheesh. Have you ever heard the expression, "picking gnat shit out of pepper"?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Kremlin's strategy since 2016 is consistent--"secure the base, split the opposition."
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 03:37 AM
Aug 2020

That strategy's failing to secure Trump's reelection so far, so the last three paragraphs below discuss possible other moves Russia may plan.

Sen. Blumenthal's been warning for years now of Russian war on our democracy that senate Republicans have been mostly keeping classified. This is the kind of thing we can know, not what has our Democratic senators exiting briefings grim and appalled.

Election 2020: Russia Cares, China Doesn’t
Foreign influence: What America should worry about this year and next

Foreign Policy Research Institute, July 15, 2020, Post by Clint Watts

... However, the claim of Chinese election interference and subsequent focus on China in 2020 is a distraction from Russian election interference, which remains a clear and present danger to American democracy. In short, when it comes to November’s election, Russia cares and China doesn’t.

Facebook takedowns of the Kremlin’s troll farm in 2019 showed Russian content promoting President Trump, denigrating Biden and elevating Sanders. ... But the polls don’t look good for President Trump at the moment, and a Biden victory will most assuredly result in backlash toward Russia. ... Despite the Kremlin’s infiltration into the left and right of American politics, there’s so much American-made disinformation this summer it’s been difficult for Putin’s minions to break through the noise. Fake news alone may not produce a meaningful impact on November’s outcome. This leaves but two options: hacking and subversion. ...

The Kremlin’s more appealing strategy appears to be the pursuit and sustained subversion of the upcoming election and American democracy as a whole. On the propaganda and disinformation front, they’ve already ramped up predictions of widespread election rigging and fraud via mail-in balloting, building on the election rigging narratives they’ve promoted since the Iowa caucuses. GRU hackers might, like 2016, take shots at voter rolls and election machines, but this seems less likely in the face of an American cyber response this time around.

This leaves Election Day. If the polls aren’t close, and a Biden victory seems likely, the Kremlin could get really evil. ... Russia could conduct pin-prick hacks in key battleground states to muddy the voting results either at polling places or amongst reporting media outlets. Maybe shut off the power, disabling poll sites in key battleground states. Simultaneously, they could instigate witting and unwitting allies in America to storm polling places, incite violence or contest election results—Kremlin operatives were connected to a similar scenario during Montenegro’s 2016 parliamentary election. ... encourage President Trump to remain in the White House post-inauguration ... Kremlin trolls would amplify all such chaos on social media and confuse the American public, helping to shatter voter confidence in the true outcome of the election.

For Russia, this would be a bold maneuver, one that would necessitate an American response that could be very costly over the long term. But Putin might feel just emboldened enough to pursue it, depending on a mix of domestic and international factors. In the latter doomsday scenario, if 2020 goes like 2016, we should watch for the Kremlin to signal its chosen course of action in early October, roughly a month before votes are cast. ...

https://www.fpri.org/fie/election-2020-russia-china/

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