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abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
1. Concerning the "Ambitious Woman" panel: I've long known that many men are afraid of women.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 02:33 PM
Aug 2020

I thought everyone knew that...

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. Many women resent it also. It felt like I was in the '60s'70s
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 05:30 AM
Aug 2020

also on seeing that one, though.

Who should need enlightenment, for the millionth time, that some words still have have different inferences and connotations depending on whether they're applied to men or women? The "woke" feminists who made lists and raised the consciousness of a nation have literally been dying of old age!

Watching socially conscious shows like the bit hit, L.A. Law, reflecting pre-1980s advances in thinking, shows how determinedly social advances have been retarded. In some respects, we're still there. But only some. We've elected a black MALE president twice (albeit rejecting an ambitious woman with some relief to do it), and Biden has a superabundance of extremely accomplished, high-level black women that a majority of Americans obviously see as viable candidates for VP.

A minority lost but refuse to accept, so the end drags stupidly, stupidly out. Nothing new about that, though. The 1500s were last decade by some measurements.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
5. I think that in this case it's good to have a daily reminder of changes that need to continue to
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 06:58 AM
Aug 2020

be worked on. I know in my case I find it necessary to repeat my own anti-racist goals on a daily basis
since it's too easy to backslide otherwise.

But we did elect Hilary in 2016. That's a fact. It might not seem like it but we've come a long way since
the 1500s. I sure wouldn't want to go back to those days.

I appreciate your comments. And I'm glad we're both on the same side!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. Yes, we did elect our first woman president. :)
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 07:25 AM
Aug 2020

As far as daily life's concerned, we're practically on a different planet from the 1500s. But when you look at it, or better yet read what those who study it say, surprisingly much of the pre-reason ages still carries over in human cultures today. The time between then and now is actually very short but the changes unimaginably unbelievable.

Bad leaders mostly share the fears of people less suited to this time and understand them, and they harness fears and unreason that rule some minds despite modern schooling today much as they did in their ancestors'.

And of course "traditional" roles of women, subjugated and enslaved to every possible degree over the millennia in almost every culture, are so embedded that they're taking centuries to change. It's no anomaly that black men were given the vote in America long before women of any color. That in spite of, or perhaps in large part because of, the reality that black men were 5% or less back then and women over 50% and of all colors.

I'm glad we're on the same side also. Nice.

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