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Dollars to Doughnuts its Duckworth!!! (Original Post) Peacetrain Aug 2020 OP
What kind of doughnuts? Sanity Claws Aug 2020 #1
Well I am partial to raised glazed doughnuts.. Peacetrain Aug 2020 #4
OMGOSH.....ME AS WELL....we have a donut shop that has won the best donuts for the last a kennedy Aug 2020 #63
Duck Donuts! There are none better! :) woodsprite Aug 2020 #8
I must disagree Sherman A1 Aug 2020 #26
VooDoo Donuts are supposed to be good too. Never had them. nt woodsprite Aug 2020 #30
I have heard that they are good Sherman A1 Aug 2020 #42
I had them when I went to Portland. Yavin4 Aug 2020 #49
In Portland, there's another major donut player to consider flibbitygiblets Aug 2020 #72
Gotta be Krispy Kremes. Jeebo Aug 2020 #10
Absolutely! Dave in VA Aug 2020 #16
They're ONLY good when they're warm right from the store. mac56 Aug 2020 #44
Stolen from the inter tubes... Dave in VA Aug 2020 #47
LOL - I agree. SharonClark Aug 2020 #60
No way, I used to get sick from those......ugh something about em made me ill. a kennedy Aug 2020 #64
That woud be nice. marybourg Aug 2020 #2
I'm feeling it too. BamaRefugee Aug 2020 #3
Nothing against Duckworth calguy Aug 2020 #9
Probably be a backlash if five black women are passed over... brush Aug 2020 #5
He promised he would pick a woman for VP, but he did promise to put a black woman Peacetrain Aug 2020 #7
That's An Unfair Litmus Test sfstaxprep Aug 2020 #14
It's no better time than now with the BLM/racial justice climate to... brush Aug 2020 #40
Unfair or not history calls Happy Hoosier Aug 2020 #51
I don't see a backlash if Duckworth is chosen. Blue_true Aug 2020 #35
He said a woman of color obamanut2012 Aug 2020 #39
See post #40. brush Aug 2020 #41
It's not about the Oppression Olympics... Happy Hoosier Aug 2020 #52
I have been a Duckworth supporter for VP even before we had a nominee but rurallib Aug 2020 #6
In California, we're already speculating.... Brother Buzz Aug 2020 #17
That's Easy....Adam Schiff nt sfstaxprep Aug 2020 #56
Adam Schiff would be a most excellent choice Brother Buzz Aug 2020 #66
There are a wealth of great choices! shanti Aug 2020 #74
Well, it would make for a target no sane Republican would engage Miguelito Loveless Aug 2020 #11
Exactly!!!! Peacetrain Aug 2020 #15
When you say disabled, she is a disabled military veteran who was disabled Blue_true Aug 2020 #37
Oh, missed that one Miguelito Loveless Aug 2020 #68
Yeah. He got five deferments to avoid the risk that she took. Blue_true Aug 2020 #69
I don't think so. boston bean Aug 2020 #12
Who Do You Think Then? sfstaxprep Aug 2020 #21
I am positive it will Kamala Harris. boston bean Aug 2020 #23
Me Too sfstaxprep Aug 2020 #34
LOL, ok! nt USALiberal Aug 2020 #13
I'll take the doughnuts, please. Laelth Aug 2020 #18
You bring the doughnuts and I will bring the coffee!! Peacetrain Aug 2020 #19
You got a deal. n/t Laelth Aug 2020 #32
Heard she is out because of Cuba and the Scientology thing. Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #25
I think Joe had decided upon her. Laelth Aug 2020 #36
Of course we will hear endless screeds about her being born in Bangkok exboyfil Aug 2020 #20
I doubt it as Cruz was born in Canada. And his Dad wasn't a GI either. Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #24
I think so too...and Joe has said he has to be in agreement on the issues...so Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #22
I Ruled Warren Out From Beginning, Have Thought Harris Would Be Pick Since Then nt sfstaxprep Aug 2020 #27
Canadian donuts or USA donuts? nt Blue_true Aug 2020 #28
Biden will select a woman. That's when we will all be right. LOL. 42bambi Aug 2020 #29
I think he has to find the person who will be the best with organizational skills since he's Vinca Aug 2020 #31
Harris seemed to have preferred first timers as her senior campaign staff. Blue_true Aug 2020 #45
I think this VP's role will be like none other because there is so much that needs doing ASAP. Vinca Aug 2020 #59
President Obama came into a dire situation. Blue_true Aug 2020 #65
I'm starting to like this idea too. Mike 03 Aug 2020 #33
I'm feeling Duckworth too! flibbitygiblets Aug 2020 #38
Same here Bayard Aug 2020 #46
Harris, Duckworth, Rice, Abrams, Warren and several others: we are finally with a deep bench ... marble falls Aug 2020 #43
It's gonna be a black woman Happy Hoosier Aug 2020 #48
Yep. honest.abe Aug 2020 #61
Agreed. If it's not Warren, it has to be a Black woman Rice4VP Aug 2020 #71
Your quackers! whistler162 Aug 2020 #50
Why do I keep hearing Stubby Kaye? whistler162 Aug 2020 #53
Can do.. can do.. Peacetrain Aug 2020 #55
I hope so, I think she gives us the best chance of winning. jalan48 Aug 2020 #54
ANY North Shore Chicago Aug 2020 #57
Hope so! tavernier Aug 2020 #58
I got 12 bucks for a dozen Tribetime Aug 2020 #62
He really needs to pick a black woman. Harris and Rice are actually the best picks anyways JI7 Aug 2020 #67
I think Harris is the expected choice but Rice4VP Aug 2020 #70
I don't think so budkin Aug 2020 #73
I still think it's Kamala, but I'd be fine with Duckworth. musicblind Aug 2020 #75

a kennedy

(29,711 posts)
63. OMGOSH.....ME AS WELL....we have a donut shop that has won the best donuts for the last
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 09:07 PM
Aug 2020

10 years in a area wide vote for your favorite bakery goods. The #1 seller are their glazed donuts. Yummmmmmm lotsa folk come from around the area to eat these awesome glazed donuts.

Jeebo

(2,028 posts)
10. Gotta be Krispy Kremes.
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 05:20 PM
Aug 2020

If they're not Krispy Kremes, they're not doughnuts by definition, in my humble opinion.

-- Ron

mac56

(17,574 posts)
44. They're ONLY good when they're warm right from the store.
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 05:56 PM
Aug 2020

Once they cool off, they're mediocre gas-station donuts.

Dave in VA

(2,039 posts)
47. Stolen from the inter tubes...
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 06:05 PM
Aug 2020

FOR CONVENTIONAL OVEN: Remove from package and place on cookie sheet. Heat for 2 1/2 minutes in preheated 300 degree oven.

FOR MICROWAVE OVEN: Remove from package and place on paper-lined microwave-proof plate. Microwave at full power for appropriate time: 1 doughnut: 8 seconds, 2 doughnuts: 12 seconds, 4 doughnuts: 20 seconds."

I found these heating instructions on Krispy Kreme's packaging at my local grocer.

+++
Before you ask, yes I've done this and they're still good!

calguy

(5,334 posts)
9. Nothing against Duckworth
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 05:20 PM
Aug 2020

But I'm not feeling it.
I will, however, support her 100% if she's the pick.

brush

(53,876 posts)
5. Probably be a backlash if five black women are passed over...
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 05:16 PM
Aug 2020

when black voters got Joe the nomination. Just saying.

Peacetrain

(22,879 posts)
7. He promised he would pick a woman for VP, but he did promise to put a black woman
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 05:19 PM
Aug 2020

on the Supreme Court

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
14. That's An Unfair Litmus Test
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 05:23 PM
Aug 2020

He should pick the person he's most compatible with. Someone who can have the same type of relationship with him, as he had with President Obama.

If that person had been Warren, then that's who he should have picked. If it had been Klobuchar, then same thing.

Just because people expect that he will pick a black female, doesn't mean he will. And if that costs him support, then those people really don't care about getting rid of Drumpf as they claim.

Tammy would be a fine choice.

brush

(53,876 posts)
40. It's no better time than now with the BLM/racial justice climate to...
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 05:45 PM
Aug 2020

finally share the power with the people who brung you to the dance.

Happy Hoosier

(7,395 posts)
51. Unfair or not history calls
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 06:18 PM
Aug 2020

At this moment of history, with the strong surge of the BLM moment and black women voters rescuing us time and again, passing over eminently qualified Black women will be seen as a slap in the face.... again.

Happy Hoosier

(7,395 posts)
52. It's not about the Oppression Olympics...
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 06:21 PM
Aug 2020

It‘s about recognizing a moment in history and seizing it.

I‘d proudly support Duckworth, but some our brothers and sisters would feel sleights and I wouldn‘t blame them.

rurallib

(62,451 posts)
6. I have been a Duckworth supporter for VP even before we had a nominee but
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 05:19 PM
Aug 2020

right now I think that it is 50/50 Duckworth & Harris.

My spidey sense says Harris.

Brother Buzz

(36,469 posts)
17. In California, we're already speculating....
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 05:26 PM
Aug 2020

who Governor Gavin Newsom will tap to fill her seat in November.

Brother Buzz

(36,469 posts)
66. Adam Schiff would be a most excellent choice
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 09:19 PM
Aug 2020

But truth be told, California is front loaded with eminently qualified people.


Schiff's district is reasonably secure, so that's a plus.

I have reason to believe Kamala Harris would put the buzz in Gavin Newsom's ear that Katie Porter is totally up to the job and would deliver in spades. Unfortunately Porter's district would probably flip back.

I would be happy with Ted Leiu, but like I said, there is a boatload eminently qualified people to consider.

Hell, even Xavier Becerra, California's Attorney General, and former congressman, could kick ass, and his job would essentially be finished with the orange anus's departure.

It's going to be fun speculating what our governor will do.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,474 posts)
11. Well, it would make for a target no sane Republican would engage
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 05:21 PM
Aug 2020

But then, Trump does not meet that criteria, so I think there is no way he will resist attacking her.

She's female, Asian, and disabled, so that pretty much pushes all of Trump bully buttons.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
69. Yeah. He got five deferments to avoid the risk that she took.
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 09:39 PM
Aug 2020

And he now bellows about how patriotic he is.

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
34. Me Too
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 05:37 PM
Aug 2020

I bought a Biden/Harris 2020 shirt in March 2019. Wore it to New Orleans Jazz Fest, and had lots of people coming up to me and saying that sounded like a great ticket.

I just think that Biden could pull an audible, so to speak, and shock everyone at the last minute, and if he did that, Tammy seems like a likely choice.

Up until a few months ago, the field was wide open. There was no certainty that he was going to pick someone black. Sure, things are different post-George Floyd, but it still should not change his desire to pick someone he trusts and feels compatible with.

Harris probably fits that bill, but for all we know, so does Tammy. And she opens up the Military vote, and as has been said, would at the very least, put Drumpf in the position of having to attack a Wounded War Hero. That could very well backfire in 2020.

Peacetrain

(22,879 posts)
19. You bring the doughnuts and I will bring the coffee!!
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 05:28 PM
Aug 2020

and we will celebrate who ever gets picked.. with a sugar high!!

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
36. I think Joe had decided upon her.
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 05:39 PM
Aug 2020

Then the Cuba and the scientology stuff came out. Then Joe delayed his decision.

That’s where we are right now. She’s doing damage control. I think Joe will come back to her and feel comfortable with her. For Joe, it’s mainly about the chemistry.

-Laelth

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
20. Of course we will hear endless screeds about her being born in Bangkok
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 05:28 PM
Aug 2020

I never understood why it mattered where Obama was born given his mother was a US citizen (of course he was born in Hawaii anyway).

I think that being born out of the country only matters if your parents are POC. That is the only pattern I can detect. There was a barely a whisper about McCain and I don't think any comment about George Romney or Ted Cruz.

Demsrule86

(68,696 posts)
22. I think so too...and Joe has said he has to be in agreement on the issues...so
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 05:28 PM
Aug 2020

I don't think it will be Warren...and I have never thought he would choose Harris...Tammy help him down ballot.

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
27. I Ruled Warren Out From Beginning, Have Thought Harris Would Be Pick Since Then nt
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 05:31 PM
Aug 2020

But I have always like Tammy, and if Joe thinks she's the best pick, I will trust his judgement.

Vinca

(50,310 posts)
31. I think he has to find the person who will be the best with organizational skills since he's
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 05:35 PM
Aug 2020

going to be facing the Covid clusterfuck as well as a myriad of other Trump-related debacles. I don't know how Duckworth fits into that niche, but I remember Kamala Harris had a terribly disorganized primary campaign. Susan Rice is probably very organized and analytical, but I see her more as Secretary of State or Supreme Court justice. I don't know if we're getting the real info on finalists, but my top 2 are still Abrams and Demings. That said, I don't how they fit into my organization criteria either.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
45. Harris seemed to have preferred first timers as her senior campaign staff.
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 06:03 PM
Aug 2020

That typically is a mistake, you need to mix battle scared veterans with newbies. Harris is amazingly well organized in Senate hearings, that shows that she prepares instead of winging it.

I believe you vastly over-rate the VP role. The President will assign the VP specific tasks, like President Obama did with Biden, the truly important factor is the capability of the VP’s staff, Harris would need to seed her staff with old hands that know the insides and outs of Washington DC and the states, then mix in a lot of energetic, smart newbies. Her key would be in finding people that can work collaboratively to achieve goals, no outsized egos that need massaging.

Vinca

(50,310 posts)
59. I think this VP's role will be like none other because there is so much that needs doing ASAP.
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 08:50 PM
Aug 2020

I suspect it will be almost like a co-presidency. Only time will tell. There all good candidates overall.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
65. President Obama came into a dire situation.
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 09:15 PM
Aug 2020

At one point before he took office, the world came within a few hours of total financial meltdown, worldwide.

The fact is, the economy won’t get fixed until SARS-COV-2 is brought under control, either via a vaccine, a cure or common sense things like wearing face masks properly, social distancing where possible and proper hygiene as that pertain to the virus. So, in my way of seeing things, the situation boils down to Joe placing focus on one thing, corralling the virus, the rest follows from that. The Secretary of State will actually be more important than the Vice President, because the SOS would need to rebuild badly damaged relationships with allies AND develop a verification based relationship with China when it comes to progress against the virus.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
33. I'm starting to like this idea too.
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 05:37 PM
Aug 2020

That would free up Susan Rice to be Secretary of State, and keep Harris in the senate where she's a superstar.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
38. I'm feeling Duckworth too!
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 05:42 PM
Aug 2020

-She'll bring in the military vote (the military has so many reasons to hate Drumph by now)
-She's Asian-American and can address racism (starting with this "China Virus" bullshit)
-She's no-bullshit and tough as nails (and we need someone who can tear Drumph a new a-hole and enjoy doing it)
-A decorated Iraq war vet (this helps overcome some of the inherent misogyny America still suffers from)

Rice would be a very good choice (prepare to hear non-stop "Benghazi" for the next 3 months though.) I'd tap her as secretary of state, that's where her foreign policy chops can be put to excellent use.

Harris would also be excellent. But being from CA is not so palatable to pretty much everyone not living in a coastal state. (I say this as a born and raised Californian.) I'd sure love to see her as the attorney general who prosecutes Drumph and Barr though (among many others!). LOCK HIM UP!!

Of course, like everyone here, I'll be supporting whomever Biden picks full-throatedly. But I'm SO excited about Duckworth!

Bayard

(22,168 posts)
46. Same here
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 06:04 PM
Aug 2020

I don't think there's much rethuglicans can hit her on--especially President Bone Spurs. Would love to see her squash Pence like a bug in a debate.

An important point is that Duckworth could help bring in the Midwest. Joe will already have Calif, so don't see Harris being an asset there.

I saw Rep. Jim Clyburn interviewed over the weekend. He has backed off saying the VP must be a black woman. Now, he just says it needs to be a woman.

Susan Rice would be a good choice for SOS. Either Kamala Harris, or Adam Schiff, would be excellent choices for AG.

marble falls

(57,275 posts)
43. Harris, Duckworth, Rice, Abrams, Warren and several others: we are finally with a deep bench ...
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 05:54 PM
Aug 2020

I will be happy with all of them.

Though I would love to hear the GOP cutting Harris for being too law and order.

Happy Hoosier

(7,395 posts)
48. It's gonna be a black woman
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 06:13 PM
Aug 2020

Duckworth is fantastic, but in this moment not picking a Black woman would be political malpractice.

Peacetrain

(22,879 posts)
55. Can do.. can do..
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 07:15 PM
Aug 2020
Watched Guys and Dolls (or part of it.. actually copied it) on TCM this week and that is one of my favorite songs..that and sit down your rocking the boat.. Nicely Nice.. come to think of it , He (stubby kaye) sings both songs

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JI7

(89,276 posts)
67. He really needs to pick a black woman. Harris and Rice are actually the best picks anyways
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 09:21 PM
Aug 2020

Black women were his biggest supporters with many picking him over Harris with hopes he would put her on the ticket.

Rice4VP

(1,235 posts)
70. I think Harris is the expected choice but
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 10:09 PM
Aug 2020

Susan Rice is the most sensible and Demmings would be the most strategic. Choosing her will squash Trump’s whole defund the police attack. It will throw him off his game.

He had no problem dogging Mac Cain so Duckworth won’t be any different

Please stop talking about Bass... no name ID and controversial

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
75. I still think it's Kamala, but I'd be fine with Duckworth.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 12:19 AM
Aug 2020

Rice would be a good pick, too.

I wish Stacey Abrams was still in the running, but I understand why he might be skittish about her level of experience.

Hopefully, Abrams will run for Governor again... and win again.

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