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"As a former WH reporter, I don't say this lightly" (Original Post) Nevilledog Aug 2020 OP
K; R CatWoman Aug 2020 #1
KnR Hekate Aug 2020 #2
I don't know if you Tweet, Hekate, but if you do.. you can Retweet this.. Cha Aug 2020 #50
Hi Cha! No, I only see tweets here. Hekate Aug 2020 #52
Yes, that Hurricane Douglas Missed us & all the Island Cha Aug 2020 #53
Very astute. dchill Aug 2020 #3
Absolutely! mrsadm Aug 2020 #31
No law says the media has to show up to hear his lies every day. Grammy23 Aug 2020 #4
I'd argue that by covering his lies they are working against public health interests. Nevilledog Aug 2020 #6
Ok. but the press would need to send one person Captain Zero Aug 2020 #14
Somebody to listen to his bullshit so I don't have to. Lasher Aug 2020 #34
The law of "Wanna get fired?" nt tblue37 Aug 2020 #20
A lot of government events are pool coverage csziggy Aug 2020 #39
Fox will still show up - so will Breitbart, OAN and other RWers NewJeffCT Aug 2020 #55
I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to see that. calimary Aug 2020 #65
This is a great point: crickets Aug 2020 #67
You just delivered a royal flush of a post. Mr. Evil Aug 2020 #74
I've said that for a long time, but he has more gravitas Ferrets are Cool Aug 2020 #5
should have done this from the very start. NRaleighLiberal Aug 2020 #7
Yup SheltieLover Aug 2020 #8
"Of course, I was happy to enable a previous Republican administration ZZenith Aug 2020 #9
Why not post original link? whttevrr Aug 2020 #10
Here You go - from April 6 2020 Tommymac Aug 2020 #21
Thank you I appreciate your effort whttevrr Aug 2020 #22
Thanks! I'd like to know how you did that. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2020 #54
It's very easy. Tommymac Aug 2020 #75
*mwah* thanks!!! I'll try this! BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2020 #76
KnR sheshe2 Aug 2020 #11
Thank you! Been saying this for years. Even wrote Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2020 #12
Easily 3 years late, but I'll take it unblock Aug 2020 #13
Recommended. H2O Man Aug 2020 #16
+1 crickets Aug 2020 #42
Yes! Agree! Who can even stand listening to little D these days? Just ramblings mainly... Illumination Aug 2020 #15
And don't say his name. CaptYossarian Aug 2020 #17
Or adopt DUer soothsayer's appellation for him..."it" Nevilledog Aug 2020 #18
lol.. right. We all know who he's talking about Cha Aug 2020 #51
The Media gets money from everybody. pwb Aug 2020 #19
Yes. Props. Part of the Death Follies. zentrum Aug 2020 #23
Don't feed them! OhNo-Really Aug 2020 #24
They should have ignored him from the moment... 3catwoman3 Aug 2020 #25
It's sickening. And then they spend all day replaying what he said instead of just summarizing Rice4VP Aug 2020 #41
The very first time Trump refererred to the media homegirl Aug 2020 #26
No. Just no. nt Grasswire2 Aug 2020 #37
K&R to infinity! cp Aug 2020 #27
75% should stop and the remaining 25% need to put heat in thier questions. No more softballs. marble falls Aug 2020 #28
+1, why aren't other G8 countries citizens dying at 1500 a day from CV? uponit7771 Aug 2020 #56
Great hardball question. marble falls Aug 2020 #62
Also, stop reporting his tweets like it's news FakeNoose Aug 2020 #29
AbsoFreakingLutely! Cha Aug 2020 #48
... Lucinda Aug 2020 #30
Unfortunately, treating "presidential briefings" as news is a new kind of complicity. hay rick Aug 2020 #32
CORRECT Skittles Aug 2020 #33
K&R spanone Aug 2020 #35
Ron Fournier was the AP reporter, always the first to be called on. Grasswire2 Aug 2020 #36
I said as much to a WH press in Twitterverse benld74 Aug 2020 #38
I've been saying this for 3 years Rice4VP Aug 2020 #40
He says he doesn't want any press or media at the Republican Convention? kentuck Aug 2020 #43
Nah, too much money for the MSM BigmanPigman Aug 2020 #44
YES! elleng Aug 2020 #45
K&R! Pointless for them, painful to watch, Trump only uses them and ignores their questions Rhiannon12866 Aug 2020 #46
No, I'm sure Fournier doesn't say it lightly.. I remember him Cha Aug 2020 #47
Retweeted!!!!! Cha Aug 2020 #49
Absolutely. At this point, putting the Turd on TV is enabling it. lagomorph777 Aug 2020 #57
K & R mia Aug 2020 #58
Spot on. TheCowsCameHome Aug 2020 #59
Now THAT'S some good advice. Paladin Aug 2020 #60
There's enough press to cover BOTH Mr. Ected Aug 2020 #61
FINALLY a reporter says what millions of Americans have been saying for months if not years. usaf-vet Aug 2020 #63
A lot of people think Fournier is a republican hack .. Maribelle Aug 2020 #64
K&R northoftheborder Aug 2020 #66
YES!!! AC_Mem Aug 2020 #68
good. better yet, turn that attention to rw talk radio and investigate russian use of it, for eg certainot Aug 2020 #69
Is There An Argument Against This? ProfessorGAC Aug 2020 #70
Had they but taken this advice in 2015... LisaM Aug 2020 #71
Screw you, Fournier! Grins Aug 2020 #72
I posted comments to this effect Sherman A1 Aug 2020 #73

Cha

(297,305 posts)
53. Yes, that Hurricane Douglas Missed us & all the Island
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 02:05 AM
Aug 2020

chain.. Thank Goodness! We all went through the Preps 'cause we just didn't know. Whew!

I hope you & yours are doing well as can be in this heartbreaking time.

Oh, I got to vote for Kai Kahele in person on Thursday.. quite by chance bc I had accidently tossed my Envelope that I got with my Mail in Ballot. So I went about trying to get another ballot.

Turns out we have a Kauai Voters Service Center & you can Vote in Person. The keeper of the Direct Voting Drop Box takes your Temperature & then directs you to Conference Room B. It was almost like private voting. Just one machine, Paper Ballot.. & room enough for 3 or 4 Voters.

After anyone votes the Poll Workers clap and Cheer with Hooyays! Like a Party! When they clapped for me I Clapped, too, and said "Thank you all for being here!"

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
4. No law says the media has to show up to hear his lies every day.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 07:48 PM
Aug 2020


What if he threw a press event and no one came? I would pay to see that.

Captain Zero

(6,811 posts)
14. Ok. but the press would need to send one person
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 08:20 PM
Aug 2020

To take pictures and video. Sit in the back. Don't ask questions.

Lasher

(27,597 posts)
34. Somebody to listen to his bullshit so I don't have to.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 10:38 PM
Aug 2020

That's why I don't watch Trump on TV. Chris Cuomo will let me now if he said anything I care about.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
39. A lot of government events are pool coverage
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 11:41 PM
Aug 2020

One camera set up and any or all networks can access and cover as needed. The networks could just assign some interns to monitor the White House Follies and alert the higher ups when something interesting happens. Or - radical thought - there could be more than one - one to watch, others to check the truthfulness of what is said. That's probably need a half dozen or more interns!

I would LOVE to have Dolt45 come out for a WH Briefing and all there is in the room is one camera and his swarm of toadies.

calimary

(81,314 posts)
65. I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to see that.
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 10:41 AM
Aug 2020

What constantly irks me is what now shapes up as complete baloney and journalistic malpractice - STILL reacting and responding to trump with what always looks like wide-eyed naivety. Like - well, maybe he's telling the truth today.

FUCK THAT! Do we not have an almost-four-year-long and VERY well-documented track record of CONSTANT lies and bullshit and distractions and grievance whining and more lies and more distortions and more bullshit? This guy DOES NOT tell the truth, HAS NOT told the truth, WILL NOT tell the truth, and CANNOT tell the truth. NOT EVER!

And we can go back even farther than just this four-year timeframe. THROUGHOUT his life in the public eye, he has lied, misled, bullshitted, tap-danced, distracted, distorted, slung a lotta hash, and blamed everything/everybody/anything/anybody else outside of his own little self.

Everyone in the media seems to forget this. Everyone in the media seems to want to start with a daily reset - where everything is covered and judged from a zero-base, disregarding everything we know and see and have observed FOR YEARS with this bastard.

And I just wish they'd stop!

Everything about him, everything he says, everything he does, MUST BE viewed in the context of his long-established track record as a certified liar and cheat. And it should be covered that way.

He has LONG AGO squandered ANY benefit of the doubt that seems to wash over him every day. He NO LONGER deserves such treatment.

Everything about him should be covered through the lens, and on the premise, of TOTAL doubt. In context with his long-established and EXTREMELY well-documented track-record as a liar and a cheat. NOTHING with him should be taken at face value.

Maybe it's some over-arching attempt to try to remain objective. But by now, the only objective attitude or interpretation we have, the only one that's relative and operative, is to fully understand and accept that he is a liar and a cheat, and EVERYTHING from him and about him should be treated, and covered, from that fundamental. From that baseline. From now on.

crickets

(25,981 posts)
67. This is a great point:
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 12:13 PM
Aug 2020
Everyone in the media seems to want to start with a daily reset - where everything is covered and judged from a zero-base, disregarding everything we know and see and have observed FOR YEARS with this bastard.


It drives me nuts too. Why pretend trump is anything other than the lying scum he has repeatedly shown he is?

Mr. Evil

(2,845 posts)
74. You just delivered a royal flush of a post.
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 08:22 PM
Aug 2020

I'm guessing they're still doing the same thing over and over in the hopes of finally receiving a different result. Well, we all know what that actually is. The definition of insanity. It's almost as if the news producers at every news organization is giddy with glee that President Nazivomit is going to be saying something so they can capture the clown show and reap the ratings. This is disgusting on so many levels anyone would have to hijack this thread and most others to list them all. And to actually show him reading aloud is quite possibly one of the most mentally painful experiences anyone watching has to endure.

Anyone involved with any presentation of this know-nothing doofus should always preface that event with a disclaimer that the viewing audience is about to hear lies, pettiness, unwarranted and unfounded insults, misinformation, blatant ignorance (regardless of the subject), bias, bigotry, racism, fearmongering, self-agrandizement, inhumanity and the blaming of anyone and/or anything other than himself for everything he and his administration is responsible for.

Just stop showing him altogether! He has nothing of substance to offer anyone or our society, nor will he ever do so. He is simply a fraud in every sense of the term. Everyone involved in TV news presentations should just forsake TV viewing diplomacy and call him what he is at every opportunity... A god damned fraud!

ZZenith

(4,124 posts)
9. "Of course, I was happy to enable a previous Republican administration
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 07:55 PM
Aug 2020

when they were lying us into a disastrous and ill-conceived war in the Middle East.”

Ron Fournier: Go ahead, admit it — George W. Bush is a good man

https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2013/04/27/ron-fournier-go-ahead-admit-it-george-w-bush-is-a-good-man/

whttevrr

(2,345 posts)
10. Why not post original link?
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 07:57 PM
Aug 2020

Why do people create screen grabs of tweets and not provide a link to the original source material?

Shouldn't there be source links?

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
75. It's very easy.
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 08:30 PM
Aug 2020

On Twitter, just click on the little 'house' icon in the ribbon below the body of the tweet and click on "Copy Link To Tweet".

Then simply paste that url link here on DU in the 'Message text' field in the 'Reply To' window.

Example: https:<edited>//twitter.com/donwinslow/status/1290027764167266305?s=20

Remove all characters from the '?' to the end (the ones in bold type in the above example). Or not...if you are not comfortable doing this step no worries it's cosmetic only, won't hurt anything.

That's it.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
12. Thank you! Been saying this for years. Even wrote
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 08:07 PM
Aug 2020

The Press Corp's org several times.f

Trump turns mics off - saw it - no follow up.

Trump masterminded the hideous "copter conferences". Where no one can hear the question asked which allows him to freely riff.

unblock

(52,253 posts)
13. Easily 3 years late, but I'll take it
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 08:13 PM
Aug 2020

Responsible journalism doesn't pay attention to sources that repeatedly lie. Given he is president, pool reporters should always follow him, but not live. Anything he says should be confirmed first.

And coverage of bigotry should be handled very differently. Do *not* lead with the quote, no matter how outrageous. That gives way too much airtime to furthering his agenda. Lead with the fact that he said something bigoted. The story is the bigotry. The actual quote should be in paragraph three and the earliest.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
17. And don't say his name.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 08:29 PM
Aug 2020

Reduce him to an unimportant pronoun. HE is a narcissist. More important than he should be.

pwb

(11,276 posts)
19. The Media gets money from everybody.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 08:34 PM
Aug 2020

Me paying subscriptions, business pays them for advertising, politicians of all types pay them for messages. It is what is wrong, too few getting too much.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
24. Don't feed them!
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 09:14 PM
Aug 2020

I stopped using TV last week

When their ratings tank maybe......

Nah. They’re corporations. Enjoying the tax breaks. Shameful

3catwoman3

(24,007 posts)
25. They should have ignored him from the moment...
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 09:18 PM
Aug 2020

...he started down the escalator, but no-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o - they had to report every damn breath he drew.

homegirl

(1,429 posts)
26. The very first time Trump refererred to the media
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 09:22 PM
Aug 2020

as lying hacks. and "fake news" they should have risen as one and left the room, never to return.

All news from the White House should be displayed as text on the TV screen, no comment needed and absolutely no images of Trump.

So much more is happening politically in this country and is not being covered.

The media outlets should..

DUMP TRUMP!!!

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
30. ...
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 09:56 PM
Aug 2020

I'd rather they keep covering the chaos of this administration and added the rest into the mix. It's good to keep an eye on the lies in real time...

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
36. Ron Fournier was the AP reporter, always the first to be called on.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 11:30 PM
Aug 2020

I had my beefs with him and his own representation of the media over the years. He was not faultless.

The first thing that should happen is for Congress to pass a resolution restoring the credentialing authority for reporters back to the Correpondents' Association where it was originally. Ceding that authority to the press office was a disastrous mistake. Reporters covering Congress have their access codified in the Senate Rules.

Reporters covering the WH have no such protection, despite their critical role in the peoples' right to question their president.

benld74

(9,904 posts)
38. I said as much to a WH press in Twitterverse
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 11:35 PM
Aug 2020

And was informed
If not for them
We would know nothing going on at WH

Tried to argue
But it was in vain

Rice4VP

(1,235 posts)
40. I've been saying this for 3 years
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 11:44 PM
Aug 2020

Why do these reporters keep showing up only to be insulted or ignored? CNN and MSNBC also need to stop showing their “briefings” live. It’s a total waste of time

kentuck

(111,103 posts)
43. He says he doesn't want any press or media at the Republican Convention?
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 11:54 PM
Aug 2020

After it was over, it would be funny to see who they send out to tell us what happened in Jacksonville or Charlotte, or wherever it may wind up?

BigmanPigman

(51,609 posts)
44. Nah, too much money for the MSM
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 01:00 AM
Aug 2020

and the ratings/$$$ is what they live for. They proved this in 2016 and are still going strong with the "tRump shit-show".

Cha

(297,305 posts)
47. No, I'm sure Fournier doesn't say it lightly.. I remember him
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 01:35 AM
Aug 2020

as a kind of a tool back in the bush2 days.

So as we know .. this is bad killing off American citizens on American soil.

Good Advice NOW!


lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
57. Absolutely. At this point, putting the Turd on TV is enabling it.
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 08:19 AM
Aug 2020

Enough is enough.

Anyway, I change the channel any time it appears on my TV.

Paladin

(28,264 posts)
60. Now THAT'S some good advice.
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 08:49 AM
Aug 2020

trump will shrivel up without regular, wide-spread media coverage. Walk away from him, MSM.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
61. There's enough press to cover BOTH
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 09:04 AM
Aug 2020

If you abandon the WH briefing room, it will be solely populated by the RW propaganda outlets, and that's playing directly into his hands. Better to leave some stalwart reporters there to even the playing field AND ask the difficult questions that he will sidestep. ALSO send reporters to doctors, governors, etc. We need to see both sides of the coin so the media can show the American people that Trump's side of the coin is written in Cyrillic.

usaf-vet

(6,189 posts)
63. FINALLY a reporter says what millions of Americans have been saying for months if not years.
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 09:37 AM
Aug 2020

STOP GIVING HIM COVERAGE!

WE STOPPED TELEVISING EXECUTIONS BECAUSE THEY WERE GRUESOME.

Stop giving him news coverage for the same reason.

Maribelle

(4,783 posts)
64. A lot of people think Fournier is a republican hack ..
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 09:43 AM
Aug 2020

dull, unimaginative, and trite. If I were a member of MSM, I wouldn't listen to any of his journalistic advice.

AC_Mem

(1,979 posts)
68. YES!!!
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 12:53 PM
Aug 2020

Why do reporters think that they need to continue to give him an audience? Interview everyone around him who acts like they have some sense and stop giving an audience to insanity.

Not only is the continued coverage just enabling the bad behavior, it is helping to spread false information that is literally killing people. In addition - it also contributes to people's insatiable need for instant drama - and 45 well knows it. We MUST get back to some semblance of normal; we have become so used to this 24/7 craziness that it has almost become our normal. What happens when we get someone who is not going to feed the need for constant drama come January? It's time to get everyone, or as many as we can, to start to focus on a future that is hopeful, healthy, happy, productive. Where we are not pitied and can rebuild relationships that have been destroyed over a bully's need for power and dominance. Once President Biden announces his VP, our energy should shift to supporting this campaign 100%.

We need to start thinking about not only undoing the damage of 4 years of corruption, but looking at what we can do, as individuals, to help heal our battered and bruised nation. She has been in a four year abusive relationship, but she is going to get out of it and with the help of our love, America the Beautiful will proudly shine again.

Annette

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
70. Is There An Argument Against This?
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 01:53 PM
Aug 2020

I don't see one.
Even the "respect for the office" point doesn't fly, because PINO lacks respect for the office.
Why should anybody else?

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
71. Had they but taken this advice in 2015...
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 05:30 PM
Aug 2020

Trump's campaign would have floundered if they hadn't propped it up over and over.

Grins

(7,218 posts)
72. Screw you, Fournier!
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 05:49 PM
Aug 2020

He says this now, but for YEARS he was a “both sides” hack of the first order.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
73. I posted comments to this effect
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 07:32 PM
Aug 2020

Right after his inauguration. But they follow the bright shiny object and do not serve the needs of the people.

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