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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums“The working poor haven’t abdicated responsibility for their lives. They’re drowning in it.”
When he said this (that 47% have abdicated personal responsibility for their lives), Romney didnt just write off half the country behind closed doors. He also confirmed the worst suspicions about who he is: an entitled rich guy with no understanding of how people who arent rich actually live.
The thing about not having much money is you have to take much more responsibility for your life. You cant pay people to watch your kids or clean your house or fix your meals. You cant necessarily afford a car or a washing machine or a home in a good school district. Thats what money buys you: goods and services that make your life easier.
The problem is that he doesnt seem to realize how difficult it is to focus on college when youre also working full time, how much planning it takes to reliably commute to work without a car, or the agonizing choices faced by families in which both parents work and a child falls ill. The working poor havent abdicated responsibility for their lives. Theyre drowning in it.
The point here isnt that Romney is unfamiliar with cutting-edge work in cognitive psychology. Its that he misses even the intuitive message of this work, the part most of us know without reading any studies: Its really, really hard to be poor. Thats because the poorer you are, the more personal responsibility you have to take.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-18/what-mitt-romney-doesn-t-get-about-responsibility.html
Now there is a explanation of personal responsibility that romney will have a hard time digesting.
xchrom
(108,903 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)But I'll just have to settle for a rec and a kick nt
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)trying to run for the office of President. Just one thing. And not even a recognized job at that. He didn't even have to do it while trying to support his family on another job.
It is really hard to take someone like this seriously, especially given how bad he is at it.
JBoy
(8,021 posts)Never bothered to actually learn anything about the country. Lazy fuck never stepped out of his comfort zone.
JHB
(37,161 posts)...apparently because since he was able to squeak by in Massachusetts without releasing them he assumed he'd be able to do the same in a presidential run. Who's taking responsibility for that?
fishwax
(29,149 posts)So true.
speedoo
(11,229 posts)Ezra has impressed me over the last month or so, and in this column, he impresses me even more.
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)he's gotten smoother and more polished on camera.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)There was recently a study that showed that if a person has to have self-control and discipline in one area, in other areas they will not be able to exert the same amount of self-control. So, for instance, if you have to work hard to make the money buy enough food to last to the end of the month, you are less likely to be able to, say, control an alcohol addiction. If you are working and in college trying to make ends meet, you are less likely to be able to retain discipline when it comes to eating habits. And so on. With the working poor, when you heap mountains of responsibility on them they make decisions in other areas that may seem like they have no self-control.
For instance, I had this online friend who worked, who was poor enough that her child received Medicaid but she didn't receive anything and she had a chronic condition. I was perplexed (as a Canadian) as to why she would spend so much money buying nice clothes and toys for her child when she, herself, didn't even have health insurance. So I asked her. She explained it to me like this: in order to be able to afford health insurance, she would have to cut ALL unnecessary spending out of her budget. Every last cent. And she would have to decrease her food budget by a small amount. And if she got sick, she still had a deductible that now she would be unable to pay anyway. At least without paying for health insurance, her child got to have a good life, they both had good nutrition (important for my friend's condition), and they both enjoyed the life they had a little bit more. Now some people would think she made horrible decisions and that her child doesn't deserve nice clothes and toys and that the mother is being irresponsible, but they haven't been there and they don't know how hard it is to pay for insurance when you have a pre-existing condition (if they'll even accept you, soon it won't matter). It's not that easy to be 100% disciplined with your money when you're working, are a single parent, have a chronic health problem, and have little hope of ever getting an affordable policy for your health.
And the author was bang on about Romney just not getting that he WAS privileged. Reminds me of my brother. My parents paid for part of his education, helped him with gas and insurance and he worked to pay for the other part, with a job that he got from my dad that paid well. I was a girl and was offered no such job, and only had min. wage jobs and had no help with my car expenses so couldn't afford to continue past my first year of university (I had scholarships for the 1st year and parents refused to pay second year). He doesn't understand that not only were my parents sexist (a girl doesn't need an education as much as a boy does so why pay for it?) but that he had many more opportunities than I did. To this day, he thinks that because I dropped out and got married and had kids that I was a 'loser' with no ambition. Now that I'm back in school full time and my ex is paying my way, he thinks I'm acting entitled and that I have it easy (yes, single mother of 4, so easy /sarcasm). He totally doesn't see how he had extra support from my parents and that his road was much, much easier than mine. He thinks he is where he is because he was a harder worker than I was. God, he's totally like Romney (and yes, he's on the right side of the spectrum, AND thinks he's right all the time.) People like that will NEVER see their own advantages, it's easier to degrade and shame those who aren't where he is than to admit he had it easier.
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)On the other hand the people that do seem to have good benefits, pay and retirements these days almost always seem to work for corporations, heavily invest in corporations and devote their very lives to those corporations. Good companies like Chevron, Dow or Apple. Companies that will rape this planet til we can't breathe, til the all fish are belly up, til the workers kill themselves for some desperate release from the hell they were born into.
So, many are faced with a choice. Be a friend to the natural world, support wildlife and forests, try to save what is left of our fragile climate, be counted as a force for conservation in the world or work & invest in corporations and throw any ideas of personal responsibility for making this world better out the window.
redgreenandblue
(2,088 posts)Just starting out in a new field, eager to prove myself and working from six month contract to six month contract.
So guess what I did: Started to drink liquor in order to sleep at night. It happens...
Mapletonian
(30 posts)I had to go out and take a walk after reading your post.
Same damn thing happened to me.
30 years of it; I got past it.
Hope you're better now.
Beautiful morning, by the way!
redgreenandblue
(2,088 posts)Glad you got past it. 30 years is a long time. Sounds horrible....
I guess my situation eased up after a while, and I found that "nightcaps" (and in not so rare cases more than one of them...) were counter-productive.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)Sadly, it is the case.
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)berates the wait staff, complains incessantly about the food and then leaves a 50 cent tip and walks out with a smirk on his face, as if he's done something that will gut the waiter's life forever.
Mopar151
(9,989 posts)Pirate Smile
(27,617 posts)of Republicans seem completely oblivious to this reality that most people know because they've lived it or simply have a functioning heart & brain.
George II
(67,782 posts)I have always wanted to run for President in the worst way, and I did
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I think Romney has earned that distinction - running for President in the worst way!
Aldo Leopold
(685 posts)hamsterjill
(15,222 posts)It'll have some Republican "friend's" little panties in a wad in no time!
PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)Well worth a full read.
itssimplestupid
(37 posts)We should start referring to Romney as bubble boy. I truly believe Mittens doesn't even realize how good he has had it. It may not even be his fault. How could someone that spent their whole life among the "haves" possibly understand people like me that works 80 hours a week, and is barely getting by?
http://www.RepublicansAreADisease.com
Romney doesn't understand that he was born on 3rd base. He doesn't even understand that some people will never have the opportunity to get to first base, only because of government policies that reward wealth not work.
Poor people need more than food stamps, a crap education, and a ssi check. They need opportunity.
Jessee Jackson said it best. "prison is a step up" for many.
Romney, and his country club economic traitors will never understand.
They need to have their power removed.
Hestia
(3,818 posts)Demand Civil Servants do the jobs that political hiree's just can't. Or can (hide) if they from the particular industry they've been hired to oversee. The whole dysfunction has got to go. We' got to start standing up and really be heard. Other than a mass work-strike and economic-strike, if we aren't taken seriously, when will we get a functioning government again? Internet petitions haven't worked, physically protesting did get A message across but other than broken bones and tear-gassed eyes, where are we? Have we changed any?
annabanana
(52,791 posts)There is nothing that you have to work HARDER at than living poor in
America.
Lazy poor people are DEAD people.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)I'm going to use that.
Orrex
(63,216 posts)I've seen more than a few here on DU who would do well to take this information to heart, too.
valerief
(53,235 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)Care Acutely
(1,370 posts)SheilaT
(23,156 posts)NPR, Morning Edition I think, about the working poor. I no longer recall any details except this: At the very end the reporter said that the problem with being poor was that you had no money. You had no money to afford a reliable car, which often meant you couldn't reliably get to a job. If you had a car and it broke down, you didn't have the money to get it fixed. And so on.
I have never forgotten that.
I've been relatively poor at various points in my life, but never on the edge of homelessness, and never without reliable transportation. Which means, in a certain profound sense I've never really been poor.
I have also observed many times that the hardest working people out there are the poor. They're the ones working two or three jobs, struggling to pay the bills, keep a roof overhead, and so on. People of privilege just don't get it.
George II
(67,782 posts)When I was in college (1970s), I drove a taxicab in NYC at night. I noticed that the nicest, most sincere, BEST tippers were the hard working blue collar passengers. They KNEW what it was like to hustle for a living, and they passed on that appreciation to others who worked hard.
On the other hand, the snarliest, most unfriendly and WORST tippers were those going to Sutton Place, Fifth Avenue, etc. It was almost like they begrudged having to spend 15 minutes or so in the same car as a lowly taxicab driver. In fact, one old woman that I drove to a ritzy address on the east side ran up a fare of $1.25. She gave me the fare and then dropped a nickel, then a second nickel, and finally a third nickle into the cup between the driver and passenger seats. I gave her back the $0.15 and told her "this probably means more to you than it does to me!"
Ever since, I've always gone out of my way to be an excellent tipper in restaurants, taxicabs, etc - knowing full well how hard these people (not "THOSE" people!) work and how much they need the extra few cents or dollars.
A little off topic, but I saw many of the same things you mentioned above in my younger days.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Raine
(30,540 posts)spooky3
(34,461 posts)juajen
(8,515 posts)Imagine, his five boys served their country by helping him get elected? No military for those elite boys, just as there was none for him.
ancianita
(36,109 posts)in the world of human resources.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)while doing a full time school schedule. It is VERY hard to do, and probably aged me considerably.
avebury
(10,952 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
tclambert
(11,087 posts)Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)are pushing the 47% entitlement meme....It's like they haven't heard a word about just who falls into that 47% category. Joe the Schmoe actually said they don't contribute to the nation and listed schools as one of those entities not supported by the 47%...since when have federal income taxes been the sole source of funding for schools?
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)Pachamama
(16,887 posts)....Mitt Romney and his attitudes towards the 47%, are the mean and ignorant comments being left about the article there on Bloomberg. Where do these people come from? Are these people even human? Its sickening....
liberal N proud
(60,338 posts)They have never been there and most likely never will, therefore they have no desire to understand the lives these people have to endure.
More importantly, Romney has no compassion what so ever. He is as cold hearted as a James Bond villain.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)... they should be responsible and just find a spot to lay down and die.
PD Turk
(1,289 posts)Have to sit down every month and arrange them by cutoff date, spend hours on the phone making payment arrangements. My wife spends a lot of time clipping coupons and looking through the sales and planning shopping trips around them.
Mitt and Ann have people to do all that pedestrian class stuff for them. They have no clue what our lives are like .
treestar
(82,383 posts)So well said.
malaise
(269,072 posts)Rec
Laurajr
(223 posts)what I remember as a single mother raising 4 kids:
doing laundry for 5 with No dryer hanging clothes outhside 4 seasons a year
car breaking down on busy road in winter with twins 6 months old...no money to fix it
finding creative ways to make mac and cheese 5 night a week
working full time, raising 4 kids alone, taking college classes, waking up to study at 4 in the morning because that was the only time I could find quiet
living in my mom's basement with 4 kids for 3 years
working 2 jobs to save up for a home for those kids
and this is how a lot of people live who don't have stocks they can sell off a little at a time...
I feel stronger for it and more appreciative and the main thing is I HAVE EMPATHY FOR OTHER PEOPLE and empathy is what Romey lacks because he never lacked for anything
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)Nikia
(11,411 posts)I am always amazed how people will be so critical of what people on food stamps buy while asserting that they are dumb and/or lazy to need them in the first. People on food stamps and others with limited budgets have to work hard to decide what they can afford to buy and what they can't. They have to check the sales and coupons. There might be a non cheap item that they like that they can only buy when its on sale. If they go really cheap everything else, they might be able to buy one higher priced item that they like.
People that are well off buy whatever they feel like at the grocery store whenever they want. It is something that they don''t have to worry about. Of course, people like the Romney's can buy pretty much anything that they want, which makes things even easier.