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bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 08:02 AM Jul 2020

Neurosurgeon removed part of young black boys' brains to cure 'disruptive behavior'

The neurosurgeon was Dr Orlando Andy at the U of Mississippi. The boys were pretty young. There seems to have little medical rationale for the proceedure.

From what I could gather, it was an attempt to see if boys' disruptive behavior could be lessened if part of their brains were removed

Information is from an interview of Harriet Washington about her book Medical Apartheid that was conducted at Democracy Now 2007 (transcript online)

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Delarage

(2,186 posts)
1. A lot of "experimentation" was done back in the day
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 08:11 AM
Jul 2020

Nazi-like disregard for life.

"Dr.Andy" did this in the 1960's.....a lot of others, including the syphillis experiments, are listed here:

[link:https://www.realchangenews.org/2007/05/02/travesty-medicine|

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. Yes. Psychosurgery, at its height in the 1950s. The money
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 09:29 AM
Jul 2020

for these expensive operations wasn't exactly concentrated on fixing little black boys. Jails, asylums, "behavior modification" by police, and of course just complete neglect were far more common answers to their problems.

People were desperate for a treatment that would help when all else had failed, and primitive psychosurgery was extremely popular for a long time, performed around the planet. The medical profession itself was first to put an end to most of it because, after decades of "advances," it was considered too experimental and unreliable to be performed even on consenting patients desperate for it. But I've read the development of better drugs enabled/encouraged mostly abandoning surgery, dreadfully flawed as it was.

Btw, with enormous advances in knowledge and technology, and due to the tragic inadequacy of other treatments in so many, surgery for the purpose of altering mental function has been back for a while.

tavernier

(12,388 posts)
6. Lobotomy's were pretty routine.
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 08:23 AM
Jul 2020

One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest...

I personally knew of a family who had this done voluntarily to their child.

And we think we live in nutty times now...

sop

(10,177 posts)
8. The Tuskegee Study: From 1932 to 1972 the U.S. Public Health Service conducted a study of the
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 08:32 AM
Jul 2020

effects of untreated syphilis in black men in Macon County, Alabama. The purpose of the study was to observe the natural progression of untreated syphilis. African-American men in the study were only told they were receiving free health care from the Federal government, but they received no actual treatment for the disease.

hlthe2b

(102,276 posts)
9. The horrors of medical intervention in the cause of imperialistic "control" & eugenics not limited
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 08:47 AM
Jul 2020

to the horror of lobotomy (which was used to "cure" (i.e., CONTROL), women including white women as well), but the widespread sterilization of Native Americans and other populations without consent, without informing, and/or after being told the procedure was "reversible." Among N. Americans, it was, similar to the Tuskeegee Experiments focused among black people, targeted with an underlying eugenics message.

Be horrified at ALL of this.

Sterilization of Native American women
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterilization_of_Native_American_women

no_hypocrisy

(46,110 posts)
10. OMG, a lobotomy!
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 08:47 AM
Jul 2020

Why are kids who are unconventional deemed pathological? A child reacting against abuse called Oppositional Defiant Disorder? Given psychotropic drugs? A lobotomy to "tame" them?

Look what happened to Rosemary Kennedy? Her father killed her essence in her Twenties because he didn't want her to have sex, get pregnant out-of-wedlock, and ruin his son's (sons') prospects of gaining higher office.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
15. He appears to have very high reputation for treatment of Parkinsons, othrr brain disorders
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 09:33 AM
Jul 2020

See online Dr Mandybur gives Orlando Andy lecture

Mandybur has impressive resume, early in career worked with him at U of MS

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