So the Emoluments Clause is meaningless now

[edhopper]

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Having our Ambassador ask for a deal for the President's personal business is specifically against the Constitution.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/22/politics/woody-johnson-oig-report/index.html

But we are no longer a nation of Laws.

No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.[3]

[Yavin4]

1. Laws are for protestors

Not Trump's friends or human sex traffickers who also happen to be a friend of Trump.

[dchill]

2. Even those laws seem to need some, uh... augmentation.

[triron]

4. seems

[not_the_one]

25. no, that's Melania's kidneys.

The turd only had two reasons to even think about running for the presidency.

To make money off of it, even though that is strictly forbidden (and we see how well THAT "law" is enforced), and

To please Putin, who's sole purpose is to get back at Hillary, AND do his best to destroy the USofA.

The turd needs to be RICO'd for money laundering, and Putin needs to have so many sanctions put on him he can't even take a piss.

[dchill]

28. All completely true.

[uponit7771]

3. +1

[NCDem47]

5. ...and apply only to Democrats when Republicans are in the minority

Twas ever thus.

[pandr32]

6. Yup

[rusty fender]

36. Yeah

Shit

[GeorgeGist]

7. Not with a bang ...

but a whimper.

[edhopper]

8. my fear is Trump

wants a bang!

[Harker]

26. He could finish with both. n/t

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

9. Not as far as the GOP is concerned

[CloudWatcher]

10. It's ok, we still have the courts ....

Oh wait ... he's just ignoring them.

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/15/891563635/trump-administration-rejects-1st-time-daca-applications-violates-scotus-order

[edhopper]

11. There is no

enforcement agency.

[Evolve Dammit]

13. That would appear to be true. They have all been co-opted. FBI did haul off OH SOH yesterday though

[edhopper]

16. Some of the local AGs

as still doing their job. But the DOJ is completely compromised.

[Evolve Dammit]

29. yes indeed. Barr is new Roy Cohn, and he is loving it. Soul less and perverting the Constitution.

He has his allegiances of course; all rich, entitled white folks who like the oppression just the way it is, and will increase the violence against citizens as they see fit and/or necessary. The "organizations" they belong to are the real domestic terrorists.

[CloudWatcher]

17. Impeachment was the only option.

And the GOP declined to enforce the law.

Worse, they made it clear they would never enforce it against their own.

[edhopper]

18. exactly

[3Hotdogs]

12. Some people are more equal than others.

[aggiesal]

21. Russia House

[Lock him up.]

14. We are a nation of Laws but actually hijacked by a global mob.

The orange mob boss, a subservient of the Russian mob, is using lies, bullying and confusion to take advantage of the flaws in the Constitution (that need to be corrected).

Start with:
RICO TRUMPS & ACCOMPLICES
BRING JUSTICE BACK AGAIN

[yaesu]

15. pretty much all laws are meaningless now if they are used against the fascists. nt

[DallasNE]

19. The Problem Is The Letter From

The Office of Legal Counsel that says a sitting President cannot be indicted for federal crimes committed while they are in office. Impeachment is the only crime a President is subject to while in office. I believe the Supreme Court chipped away at that letter with the Manhattan case. It makes no sense that a sitting President could be charged in State court but not Federal court. Besides, President Clinton had to testify in the Paula Jones case so the OLC letter doesn't have much of a foundation.

[edhopper]

20. Yes

But there can be no question this is an impeachable offense. The Founders would tar and feather him for this.

[Lonestarblue]

22. A Biden DOJ needs to get rid of the opinion, not law, against indicting a sitting president.

We have seen how dangerous this opinion is, and it needs to be eliminated.

[spanone]

23. has been since 2016

so is congress

so is oversight

so are most laws pertaining to the 'president'

[LymphocyteLover]

24. I'm SOOOOO sick of this incredibly corrupt POSPOTUS and his lackey corrupt party

[moonscape]

27. Rather quaint thinking back on

discussion about this even before he was sworn in, and how we thought it meant something.

[CrispyQ]

30. It will have meaning with the next dem president.

IOKIYR

[Hortensis]

31. Those who believe our laws are meaningless are a huge

part of the problem. Certainly those who consider them meaningless won't fight to protect them.

It's always been this way, though. People of principle drag the rest forward with them.

[edhopper]

33. our laws are meaningless

because those with the power to enforce them won't.

[Hortensis]

35. No, Ed. That's not it. They're being broken because

people who lack integrity and conviction didn't vote to keep traitors and criminals from being put in charge.

Courage, Ed. It's way too early to grab our national ass and kiss it goodbye.

[albacore]

32. FDR's New Deal...

Was a multi-directional revolution.... economic, social, political, judicial....

Biden needs something similar. He's gonna have to juggle multiple balls at once.

(Why is it that the Dems always end up being the ones who pull America's chestnuts out of the fire?)

[edhopper]

34. Because Republicans set the fires.