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uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 11:36 AM Jul 2020

Anyone else thinking Trump's Troops will end up being heavy in all the swing states?🤔

Anyone else thinking Trump's Troops will end up being in all the swing states save one or two were he can get close?

With a federal court system that .. CAN ... take its ever loving time what recourse do mayors have except arresting kidnappers?

Seems like things ...ARE ... going to get worse

Your take?

tia

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Anyone else thinking Trump's Troops will end up being heavy in all the swing states?🤔 (Original Post) uponit7771 Jul 2020 OP
Unless he's stopped, every state. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #1
if the kidnappers are allowed to succeed, polls won't matter. unblock Jul 2020 #2
Their end game may be to disrupt/stop the election... lame54 Jul 2020 #7
+1, Trump doesn't need to go full Hitler... Damn, Hitler ascemded to power legally uponit7771 Jul 2020 #12
Portland was a small test underpants Jul 2020 #3
Right !! Gotta do test runs first uponit7771 Jul 2020 #5
He is trying to scare the white women in the burbs. redstatebluegirl Jul 2020 #4
Not much I won't put pass the moron, doubt the desired beachbumbob Jul 2020 #6
+1, if they go full Portland going that plan seems to might work uponit7771 Jul 2020 #10
What Trump was telling us - "Things will get worse before they get better." I don't think he meant 42bambi Jul 2020 #8
I've been saying that for a year NewJeffCT Jul 2020 #9
+1, I've responded in those post not believing how people could give Trump benefit uponit7771 Jul 2020 #11
my tweet from almost a year ago NewJeffCT Jul 2020 #17
That's some scary shit right there man !!! I've been predicting a frog nuke before he leaves office uponit7771 Jul 2020 #18
This is why several of us working GOTV are encouraging xmas74 Jul 2020 #33
Connecticut makes it tough to vote absentee as well NewJeffCT Jul 2020 #45
We have C19 as a reason for the rest of the yr xmas74 Jul 2020 #46
If we don't find a way to stop him, he's going to get his troops in place. Baitball Blogger Jul 2020 #13
Right I'm already reading some justifications for them here via conflating uponit7771 Jul 2020 #14
No, I'm not and this is needless worry and mere speculation, on the part of ... SWBTATTReg Jul 2020 #15
Why do you give Trump the benefit of the doubt on anything at this point? thx in advance. Also, uponit7771 Jul 2020 #16
Nothing To Do With PINO's Intentions ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #19
Nor do they need it, 7 swing states with 7 urban areas and 20 people divided between a couple uponit7771 Jul 2020 #20
You Asked... ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #22
"Why would you credit him" cause Trumps a dark force and evil finds a way uponit7771 Jul 2020 #24
OK ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #29
Trump might brag about passing a dementia test (I don't believe I typed that) but the people around uponit7771 Jul 2020 #31
I respect your point, but ... Whiskeytide Jul 2020 #35
As I Do With Uponit... ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #38
Sincerely, I hope you are right and ... Whiskeytide Jul 2020 #44
I don't give rump the benefit of nothing, period. SWBTATTReg Jul 2020 #21
"ignore the POS..." that would be doubting Red Don would do something that can be ignored. I don't uponit7771 Jul 2020 #23
I did say that this was my opinion, didn't I? Or did you just read only what you want to read and SWBTATTReg Jul 2020 #27
No, I read it ... there's a lot of "that wont happen" going around these days and I just would like uponit7771 Jul 2020 #28
How would this affect the Election? brooklynite Jul 2020 #25
See post 20, I'm more speaking of keeping people from voting uponit7771 Jul 2020 #26
Even less likely... brooklynite Jul 2020 #32
I doesn't need to be millions just thousands and they can post outside of voting precints demanding uponit7771 Jul 2020 #34
No, they can't brooklynite Jul 2020 #36
They only have to go to a few of them to affect total counts from already and what are local police uponit7771 Jul 2020 #37
"Arrest Them"? brooklynite Jul 2020 #39
I honestly think he is trying to look like the Law and Order leftyladyfrommo Jul 2020 #30
Yes, unless we somehow get the courts to stop him. sinkingfeeling Jul 2020 #40
.... and that's the biggest kink in the Constitution; courts that take their time to decide about uponit7771 Jul 2020 #41
Check this out... AntiFascist Jul 2020 #42
"to harass and intimidate duly qualified black and Hispanic voters ..." uponit7771 Jul 2020 #43

unblock

(52,243 posts)
2. if the kidnappers are allowed to succeed, polls won't matter.
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 11:42 AM
Jul 2020

donnie will release official polls showing he has 99% approval and anyone who says otherwise will be disappeared.

underpants

(182,826 posts)
3. Portland was a small test
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 11:44 AM
Jul 2020

Chicago and Detroit not only have a lot of minorities but they are also regular parts of RW talking points.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
4. He is trying to scare the white women in the burbs.
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 11:45 AM
Jul 2020

They shop in the city, so he is trying to say that they are not safe due to the "black and brown people", but if they vote for him, the strong man will protect them. The thing he forgets is women are not shy little flowers he can terrify like they were in the 50's. Makes me nauseated.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
6. Not much I won't put pass the moron, doubt the desired
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 11:49 AM
Jul 2020

Outcome is possible. Especially if we follow the Feds and take the protest to their hotels and plaster social media with their photos.

42bambi

(1,753 posts)
8. What Trump was telling us - "Things will get worse before they get better." I don't think he meant
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 11:51 AM
Jul 2020

the virus was getting worse as he has consistently said that the virus is disappearing and not getting worse! I believe that he was talking about sending his troops into certain cities to create riots and chaos.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
9. I've been saying that for a year
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 11:52 AM
Jul 2020

that they will send troops into the cities in swing states to intimidate people near the voting booths

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
11. +1, I've responded in those post not believing how people could give Trump benefit
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 11:54 AM
Jul 2020

... of the doubt

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
17. my tweet from almost a year ago
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 01:12 PM
Jul 2020

?s=20



Text of the tweet:

How about this scenario - Trump declares a national emergency a few days before election day due to unspecified threats in certain cities and closes 1/2 the polling stations in major cities in swing states?

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
18. That's some scary shit right there man !!! I've been predicting a frog nuke before he leaves office
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 01:14 PM
Jul 2020

... and Trump blowing up some smaller city.

There are people who would think he'd never do it but anyone who brags about passing a dementia test is insane at best.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
33. This is why several of us working GOTV are encouraging
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 01:51 PM
Jul 2020

People to vote via absentee. In Missouri you need it notarized unless you are over 65 or can prove disability. To combat this we are advertising free notaries at farmers markets, school enrollment, etc.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
45. Connecticut makes it tough to vote absentee as well
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 05:18 PM
Jul 2020

must certify that you can't vote on Election Day and we have ZERO early voting. They added Covid-19 as an excuse this year for the primaries at least, but not guaranteed for the General yet

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
46. We have C19 as a reason for the rest of the yr
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 12:40 AM
Jul 2020

But it has to be notarized.

I believe a few groups plan to make two big items their focus for the 2022 ballot in Missouri: mail in voting available to all and recreational marijuana.

Baitball Blogger

(46,729 posts)
13. If we don't find a way to stop him, he's going to get his troops in place.
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 12:06 PM
Jul 2020

Like those alien ships on Independence Day.

SWBTATTReg

(22,130 posts)
15. No, I'm not and this is needless worry and mere speculation, on the part of ...
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 01:06 PM
Jul 2020

some IMHO.

We need to be thinking positive thoughts and ignore the POS in the WH, and live our lives as we normally do.

Let Biden (and others) be our voice of reason and sanity and as trump falls apart more and more, Biden will seem more and more like the reasonable candidate to more and more people as time goes on.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
16. Why do you give Trump the benefit of the doubt on anything at this point? thx in advance. Also,
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 01:10 PM
Jul 2020

... we can prepare for the worst and think positive thoughts at the same time, they're not opposing positions.

ProfessorGAC

(65,060 posts)
19. Nothing To Do With PINO's Intentions
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 01:16 PM
Jul 2020

But, there's a resource limitation that all the desires in the world won't correct.
They don't have an endless supply of people or equipment.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
20. Nor do they need it, 7 swing states with 7 urban areas and 20 people divided between a couple
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 01:20 PM
Jul 2020

... of large voting stations and bam, he wins ... it aint hard.

Trumps an asshole surrounded by evil fuckers

ProfessorGAC

(65,060 posts)
22. You Asked...
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 01:26 PM
Jul 2020

...why give him the benefit of the doubt.
I'll flip that.
Why would you credit him, or any of the rest of them, to come up with coherent plan with a specific goal being achieved?
They have demonstrated no such ability, excepting the tax cut, and that was Rs in Congress not an executive branch thing.
Yet, you're attributing to them an ability to have a strategy, when it's obvious they've been winging it for 4&1/2 years. Yes, even before the election there was no plan. Geez, even THEY didn't expect to win.
And finally, you really believe that few people would really have the impact you fear?

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
31. Trump might brag about passing a dementia test (I don't believe I typed that) but the people around
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 01:48 PM
Jul 2020

... him are just as dark.

Collectively they can put their darkness together and some evil shit will happen

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
35. I respect your point, but ...
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 02:14 PM
Jul 2020

... I have always believed that Тяцмр is a puppet for fascist interests here at home as much as he is for Putin.

Look at the last 20 years, beginning with the 2000 election, and consider what the Republican Party has accomplished - from financial policies to foreign policies to domestic policies to wealth redistribution to redistricting to the makeup of the courts. They didn’t do all of that under a strategic initiative invented by Тяцмр. They are not stupid, inept or shortsighted. Тяцмр is, certainly, but they are not.

They have and are using him to achieve their goals. Bannon and Miller, just to name a couple, are evil fucks - but they have dedicated their lives to destroying what remains of this democratic republic, and they are pretty damn good at it. Do you think it was Тяцмр‘a idea to strip the leadership and career people from the federal agencies and departments top to bottom? Hell- I doubt he could NAME more that 3 federal agencies if you spotted him 2.

So any time someone posts that Тяцмр can’t do “this” or could never do “that”, I just shake my head and think “they haven’t been paying attention”. He WILL do whatever they tell him to do, and whether it’s legal or constitutional is beside the point. No, let me correct that - actually his actions being illegal or unconstitutional is precisely the point.

I think any declaration that our institutions will save us, or that we’re gonna be ok because Тяцмр is a blithering idiot, are misguided at present. Our only salvation is to overwhelm the vote in November. And sometimes I fear that may not be enough.

ProfessorGAC

(65,060 posts)
38. As I Do With Uponit...
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 02:25 PM
Jul 2020

...we disagree.
They're fumbling in the dark and occasionally luck into something that works for them.
I don't believe there are that many strategically bright folks, including those behind the scenes.
Do they have bad ideas? Absolutely.
Do they have financial resources? Yes again.
But, I don't think they're all that capable of sustained strategic plans.

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
44. Sincerely, I hope you are right and ...
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 03:40 PM
Jul 2020

... I am wrong. I would look forward to my crow.

I think the real movers and shakers stay well behind the curtain most of the time. All we see is the stage show. Most of us don’t really know who they are and likely have never heard of them. I think they like it that way.

They don’t really care if Тяцмр is incompetent (and, like you, I believe he and his immediate administration certainly are), as long as he sets the table for them to feed on society.

SWBTATTReg

(22,130 posts)
21. I don't give rump the benefit of nothing, period.
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 01:20 PM
Jul 2020

Where in the heck did you see my remark saying such?

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
23. "ignore the POS..." that would be doubting Red Don would do something that can be ignored. I don't
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 01:27 PM
Jul 2020

... get it.

My cousins wife died from CV19, she was 28 ... we can't ignore him

SWBTATTReg

(22,130 posts)
27. I did say that this was my opinion, didn't I? Or did you just read only what you want to read and
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 01:37 PM
Jul 2020

ignore everything else? It's okay if you want to let rump into your mind free of charge. Smart.

Go ahead and do what you want, and I'll do what I want, okay?

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
28. No, I read it ... there's a lot of "that wont happen" going around these days and I just would like
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 01:40 PM
Jul 2020

... to know why people are putting a limit on what Trump can do as president.

I'm preparing for four more years or leaving the country to eastern Canada if they'd accept us

brooklynite

(94,591 posts)
25. How would this affect the Election?
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 01:35 PM
Jul 2020

Trump's voters don't live in the Cities where the "crime" is; all they know is what they see in a short segment on the local news. In which case it doesn't really matter where the Federal activity is.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
34. I doesn't need to be millions just thousands and they can post outside of voting precints demanding
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 01:53 PM
Jul 2020

... ID etc etc.

Evil finds a way, these guys are going to throw all the crap they can against the wall

brooklynite

(94,591 posts)
36. No, they can't
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 02:18 PM
Jul 2020

First, do you know how many individual precincts there are? Frequently with local Police presence?

Second, Federal officials have no role in local elections, and DNC and ACLU lawyers as well as local District Attorneys would be standing by to break up any interference.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
37. They only have to go to a few of them to affect total counts from already and what are local police
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 02:22 PM
Jul 2020

... going to do to federal Trump Troops? Arrest them?

local District Attorneys would be standing by to break up any interference.


Are they PERSONALLY going to arrest the Trump Troops harassing voters standing in extra long lines waiting to vote?

No?

Great, cause we both understand when it comes to Trump only force matters not law and if there's no force there's no law.

I mean, at this point ... we should put NOTHING ... past Trump

brooklynite

(94,591 posts)
39. "Arrest Them"?
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 02:29 PM
Jul 2020

Yes. Federal officials do not have authority over local officials, except in the matter of Federal laws or property.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
30. I honestly think he is trying to look like the Law and Order
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 01:48 PM
Jul 2020

President. And. As usual, he is doing exactly the wrong thing.

I don't understand why I am not seeing anything much on the news sites I watch. Unless they don't want to give air time to Trump's thugs because he feeds off it.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
41. .... and that's the biggest kink in the Constitution; courts that take their time to decide about
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 02:59 PM
Jul 2020

... issues directly concerning elections

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
42. Check this out...
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 03:17 PM
Jul 2020

The Plot Against America: The GOP’s Plan to Suppress the Vote and Sabotage the Election
<snip>
The funders of the RNC’s 2020 legal war chest are a who’s who of plutocrats and industry titans for whom a $100,000 check to the president is pocket change. According to an analysis of election records by Rolling Stone, these funders include L.L. Bean heiress Linda Bean, private-equity magnate Stephen Schwarzman, Johnson & Johnson heir Ambassador Woody Johnson, Sen. Kelly Loeffler (R-Ga.), the Ricketts family that founded TD Ameritrade, coal barons Joe Craft and Robert Murray, billionaire financiers John Paulson and John W. Childs, financial executive Charles Schwab, Madison Square Garden owner James Dolan, and Marvel Entertainment chairman Ike Perlmutter. “It’s no surprise to see that the list of wealthy people bankrolling the RNC’s attack on voting rights includes some of the biggest benefactors of the Trump administration’s economic policy,” says Morris Pearl, chair of Patriotic Millionaires. “They don’t want to protect our elections — they want to protect their positions of privilege.”
<snip>
Republicans hired county deputy sheriffs and local policemen with revolvers, two-way radios, and “National Ballot Security Task Force” armbands to patrol predominantly black and Hispanic precincts in New Jersey. They posted large warning signs outside polling places saying that it was “a crime to falsify a ballot or to violate election laws.” The signs omitted any mention of the GOP’s role in this egregious intimidation scheme, but the intent was obvious: “to harass and intimidate duly qualified black and Hispanic voters for the purpose and with the effect of discouraging these voters from casting their ballots,” the lawsuit stated.
<snip>

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-campaign-2020-voter-suppression-consent-decree-1028988/

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
43. "to harass and intimidate duly qualified black and Hispanic voters ..."
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 03:27 PM
Jul 2020

This is exactly what I'm thinking about

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