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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,010 posts)
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 09:21 PM Jul 2020

DHS Employees Are Worried The Portland Protest Response Is Destroying Their Agency's Reputation

The Department of Homeland Security’s response to anti–police brutality protests in Portland, Oregon, has disturbed and angered many employees, who called the deployment of the federal force an unusual maneuver that could do long-term damage to the agency’s reputation.

In recent days, Oregon leaders, including the governor, have called on DHS officers to leave Portland as nightly protests have grown in size. Videos captured by protesters and media have shown the consistent use of tear gas and other "less than lethal" weapons from officers guarding the Mark O. Hatfield Courthouse in downtown Portland amid a backdrop of federal officers outfitted in camouflage snatching people off the street in unmarked vehicles.

The Trump administration and senior DHS officials have said the federal response in Portland — where officers from US Customs and Border Protection and ICE are deployed — is necessary to protect the federal courthouse from damage, and they have called some protesters violent criminals. The situation in Portland, they’ve added, is unique and requires a federal response due to local leaders’ apparent unwillingness to help protect federal property.

But conversations with 17 DHS employees, all of whom requested anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly on the matter, reveal that many at the agency disagree with the show of force. Some called for an investigation, while others said they feared the long-term consequences for the agency’s reputation.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/hamedaleaziz/dhs-employee-anger-over-portland-protest-response

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DHS Employees Are Worried The Portland Protest Response Is Destroying Their Agency's Reputation (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2020 OP
I think 3 1/2 years of fascist terrorism against immigrants did that... Wounded Bear Jul 2020 #1
reputation??? it's been a sham since day 1. homeland bullshit NRaleighLiberal Jul 2020 #2
Yes even the name "homeland" had connotations drray23 Jul 2020 #5
Damn straight, it does! nt Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2020 #18
I hear ya. Laelth Jul 2020 #25
Sure does! burrowowl Jul 2020 #31
Not the Onion. Solly Mack Jul 2020 #3
Their reputation was already destroyed. eom guillaumeb Jul 2020 #4
I think that how the POTUS and DOJ has used the DHS shows Dan Jul 2020 #6
I kinda agree Sgent Jul 2020 #29
Or a new republic. triron Jul 2020 #30
What Reputation? Generic Other Jul 2020 #7
The only things they ever secured were ... CountAllVotes Jul 2020 #8
They should be concerned, Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #9
DHS should be outlawed and disbanded. C_U_L8R Jul 2020 #10
That ship sailed away years ago. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #11
Defund DHS. roamer65 Jul 2020 #12
+1 superpatriotman Jul 2020 #16
+1000000 crickets Jul 2020 #24
Well, that sounds very worrisome gratuitous Jul 2020 #13
I Faux pas Jul 2020 #14
Destroyed matt819 Jul 2020 #15
That ship has sailed Sanity Claws Jul 2020 #17
Sailed, burned, capsized and sank . . . hatrack Jul 2020 #22
I agree JonLP24 Jul 2020 #19
And they would be right bottomofthehill Jul 2020 #20
There needs to be a house cleaning with CBP and ICE. LiberalFighter Jul 2020 #21
By the time Portland finishes with you, DHS will be disbanded. NCjack Jul 2020 #23
"Did you ever imagine this could happen to Dubya's creation, Bob?" Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2020 #26
Hate to break it to them MurrayDelph Jul 2020 #27
Defund? Disband them, and salt the earth where their HQ is Hekate Jul 2020 #28
Wow.. at least they have some decent human beings Cha Jul 2020 #32
Ruining their reputation??? peggysue2 Jul 2020 #33
No worries...we haven't forgotten pecosbob Jul 2020 #34

drray23

(7,633 posts)
5. Yes even the name "homeland" had connotations
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 09:25 PM
Jul 2020

of German right wing stuff. The motherland was a central theme in Hitler's propaganda.

Dan

(3,564 posts)
6. I think that how the POTUS and DOJ has used the DHS shows
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 09:26 PM
Jul 2020

That they should not be under the Executive branch, because Trump will and is using them like his private police. There are too many examples in history that make me concerned.

Plus, as someone said - after caging children, taking babies from their parents - one has to ask, what won’t they do for this POTUS?

I am thinking more and more, the total organization should be disbanded - and the criminal elements of this organization - charged for crimes against humanity.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
29. I kinda agree
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 11:34 PM
Jul 2020

USCG back to Transportation, SS back to Treasury, etc.

That said, SCOTUS has taken the position that almost every federal employee down to the local mail carrier is an at will employee of the President as per the Consumer Protection Agency decision. Either SCOTUS needs to change (I don't see it), or we need a constitutional amendment.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
7. What Reputation?
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 09:27 PM
Jul 2020

The one where they abuse children by keeping them in cages? The one where they sniff your underwear at the border to make sure you aren't carrying a bomb? The one where they can pull you over within 100 miles of an international airport and demand to see your papers?

What reputation? As Gestapo Wannabes?

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
9. They should be concerned,
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 09:27 PM
Jul 2020

and they shoudl stop following orders and/or resign.

"Just following orders," is not a defense to following illegal orders.

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
10. DHS should be outlawed and disbanded.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 09:28 PM
Jul 2020

It was a carelessly planned and unnecessary organization that's been abused for political profit. It needs to go away.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
13. Well, that sounds very worrisome
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 09:36 PM
Jul 2020

I suppose now those people snatched off the street or beaten with batons should all just shut up now, because it really hurts DHS employees' feelings.

Faux pas

(14,681 posts)
14. I
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 09:36 PM
Jul 2020

have a different take who those storm troopers are/might be. I have a vision of stephen miller recruiting militia members and those effers are just a bunch of privately hired white nationalist thugs.

Sanity Claws

(21,849 posts)
17. That ship has sailed
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 09:40 PM
Jul 2020

Did they really think they had any reputation to salvage after putting children in cages?

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
22. Sailed, burned, capsized and sank . . .
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 09:47 PM
Jul 2020

FUCK DHS.

Fuck these sub-Blart buffoons and their "concerns".

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,854 posts)
26. "Did you ever imagine this could happen to Dubya's creation, Bob?"
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 10:01 PM
Jul 2020

"Not in my wildest dreams, Frank. Welp, nuthin' we can do about it. Coming over Saturday for my cook-out? I just had a huge new patio installed."

"You bet, Bob!"

MurrayDelph

(5,299 posts)
27. Hate to break it to them
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 10:52 PM
Jul 2020

But facism IS their agency's reputation, ever since Joe fucking-Lieberman came up with the Department of Das Vaterland Security.

Cha

(297,275 posts)
32. Wow.. at least they have some decent human beings
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 01:50 AM
Jul 2020

working for DHS.. and of course they want anonymity.. they'd lose their jobs in a heartbeat if the "gestapo" found out.

peggysue2

(10,829 posts)
33. Ruining their reputation???
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 01:50 AM
Jul 2020

How about destroying our democratic Republic, asshats? The country has to survive this illegal assault before any agency starts boo-hooing about their reputation and legacy.

Because the cart without the horse doesn't travel too far.

And they requested anonymity to voice these 'concerns'.

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
34. No worries...we haven't forgotten
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 02:07 AM
Jul 2020

We'll fix your little wagon after we repeal the Patriot Act and pass the new ban on federal hiring of PMCs.

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