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kpete

(72,014 posts)
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 01:52 PM Jul 2020

Stop. Stop this right now. THERE IS NO NEW TONE! There is no "other trump".

There is no “more serious trump”.
There will be no pivot, no change, no shift.
There is no trump B.
The one we’ve all seen for nearly 4 years, is the only one there is.
Stop doing this crap.
I beg you.


THE NOTE: The president is displaying a new tone and a new level of engagement, after aides and allies have pleaded with him to recognize the gravity of the moment


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Stop. Stop this right now. THERE IS NO NEW TONE! There is no "other trump". (Original Post) kpete Jul 2020 OP
For the life of me, I don't understand why important media voices can't grasp Mike 03 Jul 2020 #1
Upton Sinclair figured it out Blecht Jul 2020 #46
Blecht for the win. HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #56
Rick Klein is the political news director for ABC and he ought to know better. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #2
Every time Trump speaks in public without shitting himself, the right goes into raptures. Aristus Jul 2020 #3
The Right, I could understand...sort of. GopherGal Jul 2020 #13
"But surely his 'Goya moment' persuades you that he can act Presidential!" struggle4progress Jul 2020 #65
The MSM got into this habit during Reagan's term. jaxexpat Jul 2020 #68
Here comes trump's media to soften the way before election Fullduplexxx Jul 2020 #4
i can hear eric boehlert's eyes rolling from here eleny Jul 2020 #5
Everybody knows who he is. kentuck Jul 2020 #6
Oh that's hilarious. He allowed one rogue staff member to put out a less-than-insane tweet. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #7
abc ....lick spittle for trump spanone Jul 2020 #8
Absolute madness, at the end of the day the mainstream media will need to take Eliot Rosewater Jul 2020 #9
My magic 8 Ball says... Brother Buzz Jul 2020 #10
I'm sort of morbidly curious GopherGal Jul 2020 #16
Simple. He promised a vaccine months ago.... Brother Buzz Jul 2020 #18
+1, but dammit you're an anti-vaxer if you don't eat 100% of this vaccine shit that has hurt ... uponit7771 Jul 2020 #60
Relax... agingdem Jul 2020 #11
My husband read some of that MuseRider Jul 2020 #12
"See, he is beginning to try to do better." colorado_ufo Jul 2020 #27
...tryin' to do better for ulterior reasons/motives... sprinkleeninow Jul 2020 #55
The media wants a horse race and will do anything to achieve it. kairos12 Jul 2020 #14
I agree....Having said that....I am soooooooooo Upthevibe Jul 2020 #15
ABC Absolute Bull Crap. n/t Permanut Jul 2020 #17
Stupid Fucking Bullshit. dalton99a Jul 2020 #19
thank you dalton and David Rothschild saidsimplesimon Jul 2020 #26
David Rothchild has to say that a lot.. I was looking for the Cha Jul 2020 #34
Exactly shanti Jul 2020 #20
just rearranging the deck chairs. nt Javaman Jul 2020 #21
it's not like there's a choice. He's hardwired...has no ability to change. nt wiggs Jul 2020 #22
Remember the word "pivot" three years ago? hibbing Jul 2020 #23
He's a serial killer trying to convince us he's found Jesus. Talitha Jul 2020 #24
Plan A-Putin, Plan B-Putin, Plan C-traitor Mitch and spouse saidsimplesimon Jul 2020 #25
This is simple... ashredux Jul 2020 #28
WRONG blakstoneranger Jul 2020 #30
Yep. Most likely ashredux Jul 2020 #40
HE'S GETTING LOTS OF HELP!! blakstoneranger Jul 2020 #29
Yeah, I'm sure any day now we'll see that "Jeffersonian" brilliance shine through...... Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2020 #31
LOL.... fleeting headline... Like who is going to believe this? Chakaconcarne Jul 2020 #32
I think that anyone PatSeg Jul 2020 #33
Con artists have many voices, many tones but they're all just fronts for more lies. rickyhall Jul 2020 #35
100% -- We've seen this song and dance before stopdiggin Jul 2020 #36
"The Note" has always been a piece of crap. Grasswire2 Jul 2020 #37
Mark Halperin Grasswire2 Jul 2020 #52
Tone Deaf Marcuse Jul 2020 #38
Hey, ABCNews - you giving out barf-bags with that emetic swill? dchill Jul 2020 #39
"There's a sucker born every minute" PT Barnum. Easily duped and manipulated. Evolve Dammit Jul 2020 #41
ah, the van jones metamorphosis! NRaleighLiberal Jul 2020 #42
Is this a course correction from Sunday? "Cause he still was a PaulRevere08 Jul 2020 #43
Main stream media sucks. EOM tiredtoo Jul 2020 #44
At best, there are new cue cards ... eppur_se_muova Jul 2020 #45
For the umteenth time over the past 4 years Mr. Ected Jul 2020 #47
I agree. There is no new tone. Sloumeau Jul 2020 #48
Just wait until tomorrow - or maybe even later this evening Victor_c3 Jul 2020 #49
Anyone who buys this shit is tone deaf malaise Jul 2020 #50
This is EXACTLY what I warned of a few days ago. Kablooie Jul 2020 #51
THEY have been BEGGING for this to happen Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #53
He's like the Jabberwok Mercurian Jul 2020 #54
MF'ers better not start this "new tone" bullshit after 4 years of torture. Pepsidog Jul 2020 #57
+1, its text book abusive relationship crap; people ..WANT.. a sane president so anything will do uponit7771 Jul 2020 #62
+1 dalton99a Jul 2020 #63
More proof Americans are in a very abusive relationship uponit7771 Jul 2020 #58
Jeez Dios Mio Jul 2020 #59
hey abc! people with functioning brain cells call sprinkleeninow Jul 2020 #61
"To whom did New Tone Trump show the most empathy and kindness today?" Tactical Peek Jul 2020 #64
New Trump, old Trump: they all gotta go. marble falls Jul 2020 #66
Damn corporate media cp Jul 2020 #67

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
1. For the life of me, I don't understand why important media voices can't grasp
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 01:54 PM
Jul 2020

this. How long is it permissible to be fooled before we start calling them idiots. (This morning, I'm looking right at you, Dr. Sanjay Gupta.)

Blecht

(3,803 posts)
46. Upton Sinclair figured it out
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 04:07 PM
Jul 2020
It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,836 posts)
2. Rick Klein is the political news director for ABC and he ought to know better.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 01:55 PM
Jul 2020

I hope he gets thoroughly dragged on Twitter for that galactically stupid remark.

Aristus

(66,462 posts)
3. Every time Trump speaks in public without shitting himself, the right goes into raptures.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 01:56 PM
Jul 2020

"Donald Trump became President tonight with this landmark speech!"

"This is Donald Trump's Gettysburg Address!"


If it weren't for low standards, right-wingers wouldn't have any standards at all...

GopherGal

(2,009 posts)
13. The Right, I could understand...sort of.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 02:20 PM
Jul 2020

But the "Mainstream Media" should know better than to buy into this BS. I mean, for Spaghetti Monster's sake, after being his patsies for 5 years or more, buying and promulgating the "successful businessman" myth, providing him free airtime, airing live shots of empty hotel ballrooms for his "news conference"/political rallies, have they no self respect? Haven't they caught on that they've been played? And are still being played?

I suppose they're falling all over themselves to be the first to report on some supposed new leaf the's turned over so they can get a return on all they have invested in this sorry excuse for a man. it must be a lot of work to tunnel under that bar they've set so low.

There's never going to be a "new" empathic Trump. There is no humanity inside that sack of pus and hatred.

jaxexpat

(6,849 posts)
68. The MSM got into this habit during Reagan's term.
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 01:22 PM
Jul 2020

They even made up a term to describe their collusion, calling him the "teflon" president. Since then, the bumper sticker mentality has reduced the national discourse to public drooling. As common bullies were enjoined to the ranks of "yuppies", the standard for all professionals took a dive. And that's how god made Limbaugh.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
6. Everybody knows who he is.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 01:57 PM
Jul 2020

He is not going to change.

He can pretend to change, but everyone should know better.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
7. Oh that's hilarious. He allowed one rogue staff member to put out a less-than-insane tweet.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 01:59 PM
Jul 2020

Or he read the prompter correctly for one minute?

That's a change in tone?

Has he called off his death squads in Portland?

Yeah I didn't think so.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
9. Absolute madness, at the end of the day the mainstream media will need to take
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 02:08 PM
Jul 2020

about 35% of the blame for the MASS MURDER happening.

Brother Buzz

(36,463 posts)
10. My magic 8 Ball says...
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 02:17 PM
Jul 2020

this is gonna be one big ass infomercial for the still unproven, questionable Covid-19 Vaccines coming down the pike.

The orange anus needs to sell this to the public to drum up support so the men behind the curtain can rush it to market before the election; it's his ONLY option.

GopherGal

(2,009 posts)
16. I'm sort of morbidly curious
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 02:32 PM
Jul 2020

how is he going to try to take credit for the vaccines? I guess he never let truth stand in the way of a boast before. Why start now?

I agree that it can't be a coincidence that Agolf Shitler suddenly resumes caring about coronavirus a day after the announcement of favorable vaccine trial data.

I suppose the corona briefings will also resume their role as replacements for his narcissistic-supply MAGAT-suicide-pact rallies post Tulsa debacle and Manchester "weather" cancellation. No reason to believe the media will suddenly have learned to filter out his nonsense and only report what's newsworthy rather than breathlessly (and brainlessly) hype their live coverage.

Brother Buzz

(36,463 posts)
18. Simple. He promised a vaccine months ago....
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 02:37 PM
Jul 2020

but the nasty liberals and fake scientists dragged their feet delivering it

uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
60. +1, but dammit you're an anti-vaxer if you don't eat 100% of this vaccine shit that has hurt ...
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 05:00 PM
Jul 2020

... a lot of Americans in the past when they weren't time tested and Rushed out during pandemics.

If I read another post similar to that I'm going to scream

agingdem

(7,857 posts)
11. Relax...
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 02:17 PM
Jul 2020

no one is listening to trump except his bleach-drinking sycophants..he's killed over 140,000 people and no "new tone" is going to bring them back from the dead...this pandemic is raging...so what if he can keep his mouth shut for ten whole seconds...no one cares...

MuseRider

(34,119 posts)
12. My husband read some of that
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 02:20 PM
Jul 2020

and brought it to me the other day. "See, he is beginning to try to do better". He wants Trump out as much as I do but for some reason has become one of those people that checks everything I say or tell him about and tries to see it the way the R's would and comes back at me with that.

I swear, I go into a room and close myself in when he starts that. I cannot, will not listen. Even if it were true it would not be real. We already know Trump and seriously.....I am about to lose my mind with this new crap.

Upthevibe

(8,071 posts)
15. I agree....Having said that....I am soooooooooo
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 02:23 PM
Jul 2020

looking forward to his effing CULT MEMBER'S reaction to him now saying it's patriot to wear masks....

What are they going to do?!?!? - (extra butter)...

Cha

(297,655 posts)
34. David Rothchild has to say that a lot.. I was looking for the
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 03:29 PM
Jul 2020

original tweet so I could Retweet.. Mahalo, dalton



hibbing

(10,109 posts)
23. Remember the word "pivot" three years ago?
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 03:03 PM
Jul 2020

God, I wanted to barf every time I heard one of the idiots say he was going to pivot to be more "presidential". Of course, he only goes lower daily.


Peace

ashredux

(2,608 posts)
28. This is simple...
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 03:16 PM
Jul 2020

1) talk about how this virus came from China and one life is too many to lose.
2) repeat that he put a travel ban on China and save hundreds if not millions of lives
3) Say we have the best testing in the world, and then ventilators, we have the lowest mortality rate, Ventilators, and then one more ventilators.
4) The rest of an hour will be how Joe Biden sucks, is mentally unstable, is a far Left-wing socialist, and AOC is actually going to be running the government.

That’s about it. Oh, by the way, he will take two questions and then the third question will be too hard to answer And he will leave.

 

blakstoneranger

(333 posts)
30. WRONG
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 03:24 PM
Jul 2020

He will take one question and then talk for 15-30 minutes, take another question and talk for another 20-30 minutes and then leave. He never wants to answer followup questions. And if you go for the chris wallace, he'll boot you from the press room. You don't dare embarass trump with serious questions or comments critiquing his answers.

 

blakstoneranger

(333 posts)
29. HE'S GETTING LOTS OF HELP!!
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 03:19 PM
Jul 2020

MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, And others are helping to level the playing field between trump and biden. They're on TV talking about how trump can "turn things around". While pretending to talk to each other and to other guest, they're talking to each other about how trump can improve his poll numbers and better manage the pandemic. THEY'RE NOT REALLY TALKING TO EACH OTHER, THEY'RE SENDING MESSAGES TO TRUMP BECAUSE THEY KNOW HE'S WATCHING. All the networks are doing it. Joe scarborough was talking about trump needing to take a page from joe biden. This has been going on for a week now. The media is working both sides attempting to level the playing field. Now they're back on the hunter biden investigation. The media is actually trying to light this fire again because some senator want "answeres". Bill Barr is trying to get a judge to grant him access to bidens library in order to find documents related to the sexual harassment case.

They're going to ignore the fact that it way too late for trump to utilize plan b because people are DEAD. People have DIED goofing around with his dumbass political strategy. Remember when he put on the mask--the media acted like he had done ssomething miraculous--"trumps wearing a mask do yo thing will turn things around for him?" please, much too little and way too late. Now they want to wipe away and rewrite history as though the last 6 months didn'nt happen. AND THE MEDIA IS HELPING HIM DO IT.

THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT HIS POLL NUMBERS WHEN PEOPLE ARE DYING FROM THIS VIRUS EVERY DAY! THEY DON'T CARE ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS TRUMP. THIS IS GETTING REALLY SICK.

PatSeg

(47,586 posts)
33. I think that anyone
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 03:29 PM
Jul 2020

who has been paying anything attention, knows there is only one Trump and the only change is him getting worse.

stopdiggin

(11,361 posts)
36. 100% -- We've seen this song and dance before
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 03:32 PM
Jul 2020

It says nothing -- and it means nothing.
(This is the same WH that is -- still -- actively opposing efforts aimed towards TESTING.)

----- --- -----

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
37. "The Note" has always been a piece of crap.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 03:35 PM
Jul 2020

I have forgotten the name of the smarmy creep who wrote it originally. A real piece of work, drummed out for some kind of criminal activity.

But he was influential with Washington insiders. Too influential.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
47. For the umteenth time over the past 4 years
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 04:08 PM
Jul 2020

THE MEDIA IS COMPLICIT IN CREATING AND MAINTAINING THIS MONSTER.

Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
48. I agree. There is no new tone.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 04:15 PM
Jul 2020

Trump is just once again rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic. He still has no plans for a national contact tracing program, a national PPE supply program, or a national ventilator program.

He's not sending the Army Corps of Engineers all over the country to take care of ICU bed shortages. He's not mandating the use of face masks. He's not criticizing Governors for not clamping down on COVID. He's the same jackass he's always been.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
49. Just wait until tomorrow - or maybe even later this evening
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 04:15 PM
Jul 2020

He’ll tweet his usual garbage and be back to his normal self

Kablooie

(18,641 posts)
51. This is EXACTLY what I warned of a few days ago.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 04:20 PM
Jul 2020

Trump first makes the pandemic as bad as possible.
Then spins around and takes control.
The media supports him 100%

It will become so serious he will order a national lockdown and use violence to enforce it.
He will order a delay in the election because it is too dangerous to proceed.

And there we are in a fascist dictatorship.


Ferrets are Cool

(21,110 posts)
53. THEY have been BEGGING for this to happen
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 04:35 PM
Jul 2020

THEY need a race. THEY need ratings that a close race brings. THEY care nothing about the country, ONLY $$.

Dios Mio

(429 posts)
59. Jeez
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 04:59 PM
Jul 2020

A psychopath will only evolve into a better psychopath. You would have to really ignorant to think otherwise or have led a sheltered life.

sprinkleeninow

(20,255 posts)
61. hey abc! people with functioning brain cells call
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 05:02 PM
Jul 2020
"BULL****" on this dribble.

Wait. Hold up. Bull puckey is tons more fragrant than this hovno.

Tactical Peek

(1,212 posts)
64. "To whom did New Tone Trump show the most empathy and kindness today?"
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 07:27 AM
Jul 2020






Jay Rosen @jayrosen_nyu

To whom did New Tone Trump show the most empathy and kindness today?

Families of COVID victims

Health care workers

Ghislaine Maxwell





cp

(6,655 posts)
67. Damn corporate media
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 12:18 PM
Jul 2020

Hey, here's an idea: how about giving Joe Biden ten times the free air time you give the dotard?

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