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Esther Salas case: 'Feminazi' rants of lawyer who shot judge's familyBBC News
A lawyer who shot dead a female judge's son before turning the gun on himself had ranted online about "Feminazi rule"
Read it here: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53480166
Excerpts:
Den Hollander was a self-described "anti-feminist" lawyer who had sued nightclubs over ladies' night discounts, the federal government over a law protecting women from violence and a university over women's studies courses.
He also brought a lawsuit before Judge Salas in 2015 challenging the male-only military draft. In a 1,700-page memoir he published online, Den Hollander said he had "wanted to ask the Judge out, but thought she might hold me in contempt".
NBC News reports that he also wrote of fantasising about the rape of a female judge who had presided over his divorce case.
Hollander's body was discovered near Liberty in New York's Sullivan County, about 130 miles (210km) from the crime scene, according to CBS News.
Sonds like a typical Trumpster to me.
KY........
notinkansas
(1,096 posts)other than online rants? I wonder what led them to this guy.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,494 posts)Purely my speculation, but some possibilities are.....
* Hollander may have previously threatened the judge or her husband, say by phone or letter.
* Security video may have provided some clues including ID of the car.
* Mr. Anderl may have interacted with Hollander and recognized him during the event and relayed clues to police while still conscious.
The police didn't locate him but rather his body was discovered by a municipal employee in the town of Rockland.
More answers should be revealed soon.
KY
Cha
(297,655 posts)Hollander became a "suspect" and I couldn't get anything. All of a sudden he was just a suspect and then he was reported having committed suicide in Rockland, NY.
Now we know more.. that he was "notorious" ..
It's reported in this article tha Hollander had a serious cancer condition..
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/dead-man-in-ny-may-be-tied-to-killing-of-nj-federal-judges-son-shooting-of-her-husband-sources/2521563/
Eugene
(61,945 posts)"men's rights" lawyer. Hollander was the obvious first person to check out.
Anti-Feminist Lawyer Is Suspect in Killing of Son of Federal Judge in N.J. (New York Times)
On Sunday afternoon, the judges husband was at home when he looked out the window and thought he saw a FedEx deliveryman.
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In the epilogue of the online book he published in 2019, Mr. Den Hollander alluded to his cancer diagnosis, describing a visit to a surgeon and the need to hand off his cases to other lawyers. Deaths hand is on my left shoulder, he wrote, adding that nothing in this life matters anymore.
He said that he had enjoyed fighting against people who violated his rights.
The only problem with a life lived too long under Feminazi rule, he said, is that a man ends up with so many enemies he cant even the score with all of them.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/20/nyregion/esther-salas.html
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)He'd have stepped up and faced the consequences of his actions.
IcyPeas
(21,904 posts)A term coined by Rush Limbaugh. You know, that jerk that got a medal.
Cha
(297,655 posts)This is what I've been trying to find out.. how did Roy Den Hollander become a "suspect" and what ted them to the location where he was in New York?
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/dead-man-in-ny-may-be-tied-to-killing-of-nj-federal-judges-son-shooting-of-her-husband-sources/2521563/
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2541998
IcyPeas
(21,904 posts)About 3/4 in he calls his ex wife a prostitute. He exclaims "what am i doing with a russian mafia prostitute who used to be mistress to a Chechin warlord". He had a screw loose.
Cha
(297,655 posts)reported he had cancer, too.. and it seems like from reading the reports on him that he wanted to get his "justice" on Judge Salas before he took himself out.
IcyPeas
(21,904 posts)The New Jersey Shooting Suspect Left a Pro-Trump Paper Trail.
More....
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/07/judge-esther-salas-shooting-suspect-left-pro-trump-paper-trail/614425/
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,494 posts)Suggest he may have been after the judge, after all. Obviously a very mentally ill person and probably so for most of his life.
Snip.....
RIP to the Judge's son.......
CatLady78
(1,041 posts)Grievances have an intoxicating quality...For people like these, they become their main drug...
I find people like these useful when I feel upset or aggrieved . Well not this guy..he is too nutty.
But sometimes when I see how many grievances supposedly rugged right wing nuts hold, it gives me perspective......
A lot of these right wing people complain all the time. It is strange that they see themselves as rugged individualists. I am not a fan of goofy corporate pr style "optimism". Otoh an appropriate amount of perspective about yourself is a hallmark of sanity. People like this man are divorced from reality. He will go to his grave convinced that feminism caused his problems.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,494 posts)Humanity should be drifting toward an increasing willingness for deep, honest self-appraisal but instead we seem to be going the wrong way toward personal isolation and total emotional and social self-sufficiency.
The openness of the internet is worsening that trend, as evil people take advantage of the mentally ill. Instead, people should be seeking professional help.
KY