Hillary for Secretary of State?

[Sedona]

Wouldn't that just frost Putin's ass?

There's no one more qualified.

Would Biden choose her?

Would Hillary say yes?

We need her to put the State Dept back together.

[applegrove]

1. We didn't win the electoral college with Hillary. Biden has a clean slate. May

it stay that way up till November.

[Hortensis]

30. Oh, come on. NO inclination to spit in Putin's face

and put his chortling days behind him?

Hillary didn't "lose" the electoral college. The election was stolen by enemies foreign and domestic who, along with other things like massive election theft, convinced many who would have voted Democrat to not.

The message that Democrats were corrupt and didn't care about working people was the REPUBLICAN and RUSSIAN message to suppress the votes of the vulnerable. Others pushing it were augmented by them and used as delivery systems for their messages.

But they didn't just make huge fools of their 'useful idiots,' they've done us all great harm.

Shouldn't we be angry, instead of appeasing and still singing their defeatist songs? Reality is that they were rightfully very AFRAID of another Democratic president, and specifically of Hillary because as Obama's SoS she was already not just a severe impediment to their kleptocracy and hegemonic ambitions, but endangered their survival in power.

[DinahMoeHum]

2. NO, on all counts.

Leave her alone. She's been through enough.

I'd rather have Susan Rice, if she's not Biden's choice for VP.




#newrostrong

[Tribetime]

11. Yes I agree why put her crap let her rest

[BGBD]

3. John Kerry was the better SoS.

I'd rather see him take over to start and then transition to Susan Rice when the world isn't on fire.

[karynnj]

10. Kerry was a natural diplomat and statesman with nearly 3 decades on the SFRC

Even before that, as a son of a diplomat, he was fascinated by foreign policy since he was young. This explains his unusual incite when he became an eloquent voice against the Vietnam War.

In addition, to standard diplomacy, he was instrumental in defining a way to get the Paris Accord. As s life long environmentalist, that had to be as important to him as anything else. He also started the Our Oceans international conferences, still going 6 years later.

Kerry may have benefited by viewing the position as the pinnacle of a long career. In addition, Obama may have given him more space to do many of these things knowing that he (Obama) did not have to consider the political impact on a personal level.

Last, even when he looked exhausted, Kerry always seemed excited with the chance he was given to make a better world. He clearly loved that job. I am not convinced HRC did.

[StevieM]

12. You are completely wrong. HRC was a devoted Secretary of State and loved her job.

Since the 2016 election people have completely rewritten the history of her tenure. Nobody suggested this about her when she was doing the job. She was widely credited at the time as having been an outstanding Secretary of State. And she was passionate in all her efforts. Incidentally, that passion for spreading American ideals did not go unnoticed by Vladimir Putin.

[Budi]

13. K & R a million

If she agreed, then absolutely.
She is brillliant on domestic & foreign affairs.

She knows all the players & would be unstoppable with Pres Biden behind her.

Do not waste the well earned worth of this woman.
Bring her on board.

[Hortensis]

32. Her focus was very different from Kerry's and all the

previous male SoS's. Most of her focus was on decreasing conflict and tragedy by increasing wellbeing in nations around the planet, most specifically by encouraging development of opportunities for wellbeing of women and children that would ripple through societies.

This intensely progressive revolution from bottom up has been having great effect. But few are able to evaluate her years because SoS achievements are traditionally noted by major treaties between men at the top of governments. Middle East peace treaties a golden ring.

But she and Obama realized the problems in the ME were growing and coming together in a super storm that was going to devastate that region, including such things as renewable energy lessening demand for petroleum, disappearing fresh water, severe heat with global warming, crippling conservatism that made governments unable to react proactively, and increasing religious strife. Keeping Russia and Iranian terrorism and military incursions in check, getting Iran to agree to stop development of nuclear weapons, negotiating water sharing agreements, and other such things were among their big goals there -- and for him at home eliminating dependence on ME oil. And meanwhile, China was becoming the bigger threat in the Pacific and Eurasia to be contained.

[Budi]

36. Thank you for defining Hillary Clinton.

"Most of her focus was on decreasing conflict and tragedy by increasing wellbeing in nations around the planet, most specifically by increasing opportunities for wellbeing of women and children. An ongoing revolution that has been having great effect."

Humanitarian equality tracks back as the center of her political efforts since her early entrance into politics.

Credit is due this most admired woman.

[karynnj]

14. I did not say HRC did not do her best and devote herself to the job

My point was that her tenure was pretty cautious as her main goal was to win the presidency in 2016.

Between the various environmental achievements - the Paris Accord, the US/China agreement, the many accomplishments that came out of the Our Oceans conferences, the agreement on air transportation emissions and adding controlling HFCs to the Montreal protocol at Kilgari.- he was instrumental on the Iran Deal, and was one of several Obama people who created the plan and built the coalition to fight ISIS.

I think HRC was passionate on trying to improve the standing of women and children. I read the media when she was SOS. Initially there was great excitement and the view that her prominence could make her an exceptional SOS. However, there were many articles then suggesting that that did not happen. Any article written when she left office was colored by the likelihood that she would be President.

I was not saying she was a poor or even mediocre SOS, but that I think John Kerry was better and was an exceptional SOS.

[BGBD]

17. Nobody should take it was a slight to

HRC that Kerry was the better SoS. I think that Kerry was at the helm of two of the greatest diplomatic achievements of the past 50 years with the Iran Deal and Paris Accords. Two deals that he could immediately get us back to as SoS again.

[StevieM]

19. Her main goal as SOS was not to win the presidency. Her main goal was to serve her country well.

And she did. Her tenure was quite successful, including helping to get the sanctions against Iran that ultimately led to the Iran deal.

[karynnj]

21. I agree that she got the international sanctions

However, it took months of international diplomacy and lots if detailed work to get the agreement. The French, German and British FM and the two EU leaders who also worked on that agreement gave copious praise to Kerry, saying in different ways that it would not have happened without his leadership.
To use math terms, the sanctions may have been necessary, but they were not sufficient to cause a deal to happen. In fact, there was a faction, including Netanyahu, neo cons and many Iran hawks, who were 100 percent for sanctions and adamantly against any nuclear deal.

There are many other people, some from other countries, who contributed at some stage. Politically, getting the sanctions was difficult internationally, but had little American opposition. It was even pushed by Netanyahu and AIPAC! While there are many people, including the wonderful Ernie Moniz, Wendy Sherman, William Burns, Jake Sherman who contributed at different points, there are two primary people who stood out as deserving praise. President Obama, who was willing to use his political capital and to ok the effort and John Kerry, who spent an unusual number of hours directly involved in the negotiations and who, per his peers, kept the process from failing at various points.

Similarly, the environmental press and the Obama administration was skeptical that a climate pact could happen when Kerry asked if that could be a signature issue. It was an issue where he was involved continuously from his first term as Senator, as a member of Gore's sub committee of the Commerce committee.

Obviously these are two of the biggest Obama administration on foreign policy, so HRC claimed both as a candidate .. And Biden will as well, but reading any detailed article on how they came about shows that, other than Obama, Kerry was the one consistently involved in making them happen.

[tulipsandroses]

4. No. I am sorry its unfair.But the damage is done. The work the republicans did to damage her worked

We want to hold on to the White House in 2024. Lets not give them a boogeyman to run against. Oh, I am sure they will find one. Lets not make it easy for them.

If Biden does not choose Susan Rice for VP, she would be great as Secretary of State. There are other qualified people he can choose.

[JustBidenOurTime]

18. They hate Susan Rice just as much as they do Hillary.

[Amishman]

28. Other than perhaps RBG and President Obama, there is no one they hate more than Hillary

Just look at all the right wingers who continue to spin conspiracy theories that we are going to somehow swap in Hillary at the Convention.

[Budi]

37. It wasn't only the Republicans who pushed the hate.

We all witnessed it.

Just sayin.

[Quixote1818]

35. Probably 1 in 25 people even know who Susan Rice is. nt

[tinrobot]

5. Susan Rice

If she's not VP, she'll be SOS

[JI7]

6. Pretty sure she would not want it. Unless Susan Rice gets pick for VP

SOS will most likely be hers

[Thomas Hurt]

7. I don't get the impression she is up for any job in a Biden Admin...

but if we are just throwing around hypotheticals why not go for the one that would freaking the christofascists out the most.

Hilary as AG, pursuing investigations on Trump, McConnell, Nunes, Rudy...every scumbag lackey and enabler with any ties to Russia or even a whiff of conflict of interest.

[musicblind]

8. I'd love that, but I think she should consider

running for Mayor of NYC. I don't even know if she's interested in holding public office again, but if she is — well, she is a legend and would be great for New York.

[zipplewrath]

9. Time for a new generation

It's time for another generation to lead us forward. Time to build new leaders.

[Budi]

15. Bs. She is freakin owed a moment of justice for all the shit she was put thru.

And she is a brilliant world scholar , admired among our allies & piss on those who have yet to ditch the bs propaganda that was lain on her relentlessly in 2016.

She is far too valuable to simply be forgotten.

I hope Biden opens the door & lays out the welcome mat for Sec Clinton to take whatever position he feels she would be an asset.

Her knowledge is not something the " younger generation 🙄" has ready .
That is a learned process of the teaching over time.

There isn't a "younger generation" that could hold a candle to her wisdom & skillset.
To even suggest this is shameful.

America would fair far better in her hands than any member of the younger & more naive generation.

How is it that HRC is referred to as aged while many other pols of the same generation & years, are cheered on.

If she were offered & accepts a position from Biden, I say good for you Hillary & lucky us.

[karynnj]

22. She will not be forgotten

She has been a force in the US for almost 30 years. She was First Lady, a Senator, the Secretary of State, and our presidential nominee. I would assume, even if she does not become part of the Biden administration at all, she will still be someone able to get her opinion and advice to Biden. The same goes for Obama, Carter, and her husband. Obviously, Biden may not always agree, but having that access, coming from respect, is something real.

As to giving her any position she wants, I do not think Biden will make that offer to anyone including people closer to him than HRC. I also do not think he owes her anything. In fact, there were respected accounts that Biden pushed Obama to name her SOS.

As to SOS, it may be the toughest physical job in the administration. I do think that, like Obama, in his first term, Biden might have a SOS with many special envoys to deal with major problem areas. I would imagine it likely, that Obama would pick someone who had long term State Department experience as his SOS. These are people that he has known for decades as VP or senator.

[Budi]

26. She would excel at any position he offered. Human Rights for starters

She should be a part of the great rebuilding of America.

And yes, the great fearless leaders of history are indeed owed a place to leave this country the gift of their lifetime legacy.
It is to our own benefit.

[Budi]

16. Sec of State is not an on-the-job traing program. ffs

[karynnj]

23. Exactly, there are many experienced younger people to fill the job

Susan Rice, Tony Blinken, Wendy Sherman and many other people who were in the State Department before would be possible choices.

[Budi]

25. Lol

[RhodeIslandOne]

29. Yeah, we should only appoint people who've had it before.

Let's dig up Dean Rusk for christ's sake.

[Baltimike]

34. except that she's already done the ob, so has the experience...but whatevs. nt

[Polybius]

20. I prefer Vice President

I'm still hoping for a miracle.

[Johnny2X2X]

24. Make her Attorney General

Who better to investigate and prosecute the thousands of criminals of the trump Administration?

[RhodeIslandOne]

27. She served her time

Her time as SoS convinced me she would be an excellent President.

But let's move on.

[themaguffin]

31. No. Let her retire. We can "frost Putin's ass" in many ways

[Budi]

38. Ageism seems to only apply to certain pols. Weird how that works.

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