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babylonsister

(171,071 posts)
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:22 PM Jul 2020

Florida Rep. Donna Shalala: "I'm terrified for the first time in my career"

https://www.axios.com/florida-donna-shalala-coronavirus-e2b1c2c3-ea2e-4217-94f9-196ab4f45631.html

Florida Rep. Donna Shalala: "I'm terrified for the first time in my career"
Fadel Allassan


Rep. Donna Shalala (D-Fla.) said on ABC's "This Week" Sunday that she has asked Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) to issue another stay-at-home order and that she's "terrified" for the first time in her career because of the lack of leadership during the coronavirus crisis.

Why it matters: Florida is the new global epicenter of the pandemic, reporting a record number of daily new infections for any state and twice breaking its own record for daily deaths all in the last week.

Florida reported more than 10,000 new cases for the fifth day in a row on Sunday, bringing the total number of infections to over 350,000.

Hospitals across the state have reached or are close to reaching their ICU capacity, and some have said they are in "desperate need" of the antiviral drug remdesivir to treat patients.


What she's saying: "We have community spread, which means the virus is out of control," said Shalala, a former Health and Human Services secretary under President Clinton.

"The lack of leadership in the White House and in our governor's office — they simply have not hit this with a hammer, which is what we needed to do and starve the virus. They opened too soon and they misunderstand what you need to do, or they understand it and they're not willing to do it," she continued.

"The residents here are terrified. And I'm terrified for the first time in my career, because there's a lack of leadership and we simply have not gotten our arms around this."
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Florida Rep. Donna Shalala: "I'm terrified for the first time in my career" (Original Post) babylonsister Jul 2020 OP
Yes. It really is terrifying for us here in FL with DeSatan is at the helm. FM123 Jul 2020 #1
Just spent an hour on the phone with my dad in Tampa. cayugafalls Jul 2020 #2
I too, have friends in Tampa, FL. Thank you for the heads up status. I need to send them an... SWBTATTReg Jul 2020 #5
I hope your friends are safe. cayugafalls Jul 2020 #8
Thank you very much, I appreciate this. I tried looking, and they're in Largo, FL (33770). ... SWBTATTReg Jul 2020 #13
Here is data for the zipcode you posted. cayugafalls Jul 2020 #49
Thank you so much. I'll pop an email to them today and see how they're doing. I'm ... SWBTATTReg Jul 2020 #50
Here is link to form. cayugafalls Jul 2020 #51
And you are most welcome, glad I could help. cayugafalls Jul 2020 #53
You too. Your kindness is most appreciated. My best to you. SWBTATTReg Jul 2020 #54
Help my zip code is missing. 33764 I am right off old tampa bay on the coast Oppaloopa Jul 2020 #45
One neighbor thinks 5 to 7 have died in here. Oppaloopa Jul 2020 #46
Here is data on your zipcode. cayugafalls Jul 2020 #48
Good advice and I wish you peace and safety to all of your loved ones. Elderberry tea is a long ... SWBTATTReg Jul 2020 #52
You are so kind, thank you so much, that means a lot. cayugafalls Jul 2020 #55
This is how I feel OhNo-Really Jul 2020 #29
DeSantis does not care ..... Iliyah Jul 2020 #3
he's more afraid of limbaugh and 20 of those stations depend on 5 universities to endorse them certainot Jul 2020 #26
Turning public health into a wedge issue has to be a new high in lows. jaxexpat Jul 2020 #4
Gotta wash socks. BBL rzemanfl Jul 2020 #9
Honest, I am too. I remember BittyJenkins Jul 2020 #6
Gotta wash socks. BBL n/t rzemanfl Jul 2020 #10
We wake up worrying what the day will bring BlueJac Jul 2020 #7
My state (New York) tried to give a substantial quantity of remdesivir to Florida, Crunchy Frog Jul 2020 #11
Shalala does a great job Awsi Dooger Jul 2020 #12
For what it's worth, LOTS of organizations never purge their mailing lists. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #23
My mom has been dead for 12 years Awsi Dooger Jul 2020 #32
This is also why voter lists need periodic purging. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #34
There's certainly logic behind it Awsi Dooger Jul 2020 #35
I ran for office in 2004. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #37
We all are. zentrum Jul 2020 #14
The scary thing with Florida is... Pluvious Jul 2020 #15
I have been in Florida the last 22 years. NoMoreRepugs Jul 2020 #16
Moved here in '92 Fritz Walter Jul 2020 #22
One striking thing about Fla: If you turn on the radio, Ozzy's "Crazy Train" plays 24x7 somewhere. TheBlackAdder Jul 2020 #24
Aint that the truth Oppaloopa Jul 2020 #47
Is there a recall process in Florida? nattyice Jul 2020 #17
Nope 😢! nt mentalsolstice Jul 2020 #19
Tragically, not for the governor. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2020 #43
I can't imagine living in a red state during this time... DSandra Jul 2020 #18
Daily new cases, 7 day moving average PER CAPITA -- FL worst state in the U.S. progree Jul 2020 #20
... the entire country of China has less than 1/3 the total Covid-19 cases that Florida does Danascot Jul 2020 #41
The White House and enabling govs are getting rid of Democratic voters. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2020 #21
Its probably killing more Trump voters. Most deaths are over 65. oldsoftie Jul 2020 #27
but approx 3/4 dying are black and Hispanic over 65. n/t SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2020 #30
Unfortunately, the demographics aren't that one-dimensional. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2020 #44
they're getting rid of their own voters as well... stillcool Jul 2020 #28
those remaining in the WH have some pretty dark goals and devious methods. n/t SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2020 #31
Hell of a way to fucking purge the voter polls.... yuiyoshida Jul 2020 #38
Preference is more significant than turnout Awsi Dooger Jul 2020 #36
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2020 #40
Damn Straight.. not only "..a lack of leadership.." but deliberate Cha Jul 2020 #25
Couldn't happen in worse place.... paleotn Jul 2020 #33
If his Predidency hasn't already been burned to the ground AdamGG Jul 2020 #39
Using a crisis to further divide U.S. This is knowing, willful and reckless. Criminality defined. Evolve Dammit Jul 2020 #42
We can start to deal with this crisis anytime scarytomcat Jul 2020 #56

FM123

(10,053 posts)
1. Yes. It really is terrifying for us here in FL with DeSatan is at the helm.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:25 PM
Jul 2020

Both he and the virus are out of control.....

cayugafalls

(5,641 posts)
2. Just spent an hour on the phone with my dad in Tampa.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:28 PM
Jul 2020

All we talked about was the virus and trump. Basically the same conversation for both of the subjects. How do we get rid of them. He is very nervous and they are doing well, but they live in a hot spot so it is very scary. He has not been out for over 4 months now and is getting a little stir crazy.

Oh well, at least he is safe.

SWBTATTReg

(22,143 posts)
5. I too, have friends in Tampa, FL. Thank you for the heads up status. I need to send them an...
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:34 PM
Jul 2020

email and see how they are holding up. They've been, like your father, hiding out from the CV and rarely going outside the house.

SWBTATTReg

(22,143 posts)
13. Thank you very much, I appreciate this. I tried looking, and they're in Largo, FL (33770). ...
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:50 PM
Jul 2020

I'll continue to play around w/ what you gave me and see how CV rates in their neighborhood is getting to be. I suspect like the rest of FL, it's going to be high too. Be safe and careful!

SWBTATTReg

(22,143 posts)
50. Thank you so much. I'll pop an email to them today and see how they're doing. I'm ...
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 02:05 PM
Jul 2020

pretty positive being that they were already hiding out, that they're okay, I sure hope so.

Thanks so much, I see based on the link you provided that others can substitute any missing zip codes in the last qualifier on the link name, and pull up any missing zip codes.

Again, a small measure of perhaps comfort, for those of us that have friends all through the state of FL. Take care and be safe!

Oppaloopa

(867 posts)
45. Help my zip code is missing. 33764 I am right off old tampa bay on the coast
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 01:26 PM
Jul 2020

All my neighbors are seniors. I live in Clearwater. Ambulances are in our mobile home park daily. One of my neighbors died of the virus, she was renting so they have to call up a special company to deep clean and there is a waiting list. I stay in the house all day. I wait till my son gets home from work and ask for a ride for Ice cream at the drive in Dairy Queen. Just to get out of the house. I take 2 vitamin C's 500 milligrams per day. Hope it works I am 70.

cayugafalls

(5,641 posts)
48. Here is data on your zipcode.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 01:43 PM
Jul 2020
https://projects.tampabay.com/projects/data/coronavirus/en/zipcode/33764/

Try and get some Zinc and D3.

We stay in the house all the time and do not go anywhere. We get our food by curbside pickup and avoid all contact. I take a chemo drugs so I have to be careful.

Also, here is a list of other immune boosting supplements. Not all are necessary, take one or two if you can. Add garlic or Tumeric to your food. Drink Elderberry tea if you can find it at the store. Take a daily multi-vitamin, I take Centrum Silver.

Here is a link to Healthline on supplements.
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/immune-boosting-supplements

SWBTATTReg

(22,143 posts)
52. Good advice and I wish you peace and safety to all of your loved ones. Elderberry tea is a long ...
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 02:14 PM
Jul 2020

time favorite of mine being that we grew elderberries in the yard (Ozarks region) and my grandma used to make elderberry jam. Gosh, been so long ago it seems like, good times long gone.

I remember one favorite story, w/ my grandma and great grandma, when a groundhog was spotted near the garden, the two of them would whip out the 22 rifle they had, and try and shoot the little guy (the groundhog). Usually they didn't get him (a good thing kind of, I didn't want them to really kill anything). The chipmunks were the worse though in trying to hit w/ a 22 rifle, the chipmunks being so small it was virtually impossible to hit them! These was two little old ladies, in their 70s and 80s, trying to shoot their 22 rifle, at either the groundhog or chipmunks. Kind of a hilarious story.

Take care and be safe out there. Hopefully your chemo routine wouldn't extend on for too much longer, and you'll come out of this whole experience the same strong person you are.

cayugafalls

(5,641 posts)
55. You are so kind, thank you so much, that means a lot.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 02:18 PM
Jul 2020

I love DU and all the members here.

I am doing great and will be doing even better when trump loses.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
26. he's more afraid of limbaugh and 20 of those stations depend on 5 universities to endorse them
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 05:20 PM
Jul 2020

Florida 10, Florida St. 4 Miami 2, South Florida 2, Central Florida 2 (fakenewsradio.org) support 20 limbaugh stations. they are legitimate places to protest until they start looking for apolitical alternatives- like sport talk and music stations to broadcast sports on.

kemp and other gop cons depend heavily on rw radio and all those stations followed the limbaugh lead in denying COVID and now telling everyone that wearing a mask is for democrats who believe the hoax and are using them to attack trump, etc

they also deny the global warming that's flooding florida and will sink it. waiting until it happens before stopping RW talk radio is very bad strategy and if just one of those schools begins to debate its ridiculous support for trump and putin others will folllow. advertisers will flee. the only reason desantis was even close was those radio stations and without them florida republicans are doomed

jaxexpat

(6,833 posts)
4. Turning public health into a wedge issue has to be a new high in lows.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:32 PM
Jul 2020

But it worked for Reagan. The shining city on the hill has a locked gate in the perimeter wall at it's base.

BittyJenkins

(411 posts)
6. Honest, I am too. I remember
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:36 PM
Jul 2020

being afraid with the Cuban crisis. I was little, my mom sat us down and we figured out how to meet up if the bomb went off.
This is way worse. I am terrified most days about our leadership and the direction they are going. There is no way to fathom all of the pain of all of the people who have died and the pain of their families and friends. Donna Shalala is right in the middle of the worst with no support or leadership.
Now Trump wants to take money away from dealing with our crisis...where do we go from here.

BlueJac

(7,838 posts)
7. We wake up worrying what the day will bring
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:38 PM
Jul 2020

With Dumb shit Desantis following Trump off the plank, we are fuck! Stay safe Florida!

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
11. My state (New York) tried to give a substantial quantity of remdesivir to Florida,
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:45 PM
Jul 2020

and got turned down. DeSatan wants people to die.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
12. Shalala does a great job
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:50 PM
Jul 2020

She is my representative and expresses thoughts like this in her emails, which come regularly.

Since I returned to Miami, Donna Shalala is the only Democratic candidate/nominee who has attempted outreach and communication at the level I experienced while living in Clark County, Nevada. There is no mystery why this state under performs. My Republican sister hasn't lived in this house for 4 years. Yet the GOP stills send her mail and makes phone calls to reach her, including yesterday. I told them, "This house doesn't vote Republican, so get that out of your head." They cut off the call in a nanosecond. That was awesome.

The Miami mayoral primary is in August. I do hear from those two Democrats, especially Daniella Levine Cava. She relies on huge flyers that have to be folded to fit inside the mail box. But I wish those campaigns would email and not text. Shalala always sends emails with tons of detail. Penelas and Cava send texts, which I mostly ignore. Texts may fit the younger generations but I don't care for them.



PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
23. For what it's worth, LOTS of organizations never purge their mailing lists.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 05:14 PM
Jul 2020

I had a small business for a short time ten years ago. Not successful, and I haven't been doing that business for nearly a decade. I still get mail for it.

And I still get mail for the person who owned my home before I bought it eleven years ago.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
32. My mom has been dead for 12 years
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 06:08 PM
Jul 2020

Yet I check her email occasionally and the same companies continue to send them.

She also still receives several letters per year, primarily from organizations she donated to.

I enjoy that actually. I like seeing her name.

But the Republican phone calls are a pain in the ass. I can tell what they are immediately. I ask them to remove the number but it never happens. And the calls source from all different numbers.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
34. This is also why voter lists need periodic purging.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 08:25 PM
Jul 2020

If after several election cycles the person hasn't voted, they've either died, moved, or are simply not interested in voting.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
35. There's certainly logic behind it
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 09:13 PM
Jul 2020

Republicans began abusing in 2000 and discovered a new toy.

If both sides coordinated with logical criteria I think it could work. Voter ID laws and lessened polling hours are more a problem than purging, IMO, along with 34 states requiring ballots to arrive on time as opposed to postmarked on time. That is opening up every avenue for delay and therefore destroy.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
37. I ran for office in 2004.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 10:32 PM
Jul 2020

I did a lot of door-to-door campaigning with voter lists. It was disheartening how many times I'd have about eight different names total, four or five different surnames at a particular address. Clearly I had every single registered voter for that address since who knows when. It made it tricky. Someone would answer the door and I'd brightly say, "Hi! I'm Poindexter Oglethorpe and I'm running for office! Is this Harold Wilson? No? Dennis Thatcher? Uh, are you Isaac Stevens?" You get the idea.

I have zero problem with purging voters who have not voted in at least six years. While I do think everyone should vote for every election possible, I'm willing to cut some slack and say, at least vote in the Presidential year. If you can't be bothered to do that, well too bad. Re register if you want to vote again.

Pluvious

(4,313 posts)
15. The scary thing with Florida is...
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 04:14 PM
Jul 2020

...even if their willfully ignorant govnor decreed an immediate shelter in place order, it would still continue on its cruel inevitable course for at least 2-3 weeks.

This is a slow motion horror show.

Zeus forbid a hurricane should hit them.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,435 posts)
16. I have been in Florida the last 22 years.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 04:22 PM
Jul 2020

Orlando to Ft Lauderdale now Jacksonville. Saw Scott elected governor by the very people his company stole billions from by scamming Medicare. I thought when the pandemic started we would catch and pass NY. Just too many dumbfucks here.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
22. Moved here in '92
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 05:07 PM
Jul 2020

Daytona Beach to Longwood (northern burb of Orlando) and finally here on the First Coast in '01. Job relo's.

I can manage the oppresive heat, the occasional tropical weather-system -- can't count how many storms/hurricanes I've endured -- and the ubiquidous bugs (fruit flies/gnats to palmetto bugs and other monstrous insects, but thankful avoiding the termites, so far).

Meanwhile. the current crop of dubiously-elected officials is desperately needing a good plowing over: including senators Scott and Rubio, Goobernor Ron "let's not monkey this up" DeRacist, my congressional district's representative, John "Barney Fife" Rutherford, and other repukes that whored their way into office.

And these so-called public servants are welcoming thousands of likely COVID-carriers to the First Coast next month! On the anniversary of "Ax Handle Saturday"! How does this staged political event serve the public? As a pandemic rages on?
Sigh!

Bring on the Blue Tsunami! Send these drumpf minions packing. To prison or at least oblivion!
Get. Out. The. Vote.
Now, more than ever!

DSandra

(999 posts)
18. I can't imagine living in a red state during this time...
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 04:29 PM
Jul 2020

I lived in Arizona for awhile, but I got out when I had the chance several years ago because I wasn't going to let myself be at the mercy of the insane Republicans.

progree

(10,909 posts)
20. Daily new cases, 7 day moving average PER CAPITA -- FL worst state in the U.S.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 04:52 PM
Jul 2020
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html
Looking at the little charts of each state - in the default view, they are shown scaled by per-capita cases, for fair comparability

Used to be Arizona was #1 in daily new cases per capita until a few days ago. But surprisingly it's declining lately, I figured it to be down 21% (7 day moving average of daily new cases) from the peak -- July 6: 3849, July 18: 3049 https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/arizona-coronavirus-cases.html

FWIW, It looks like Florida (350,039) is number 3 on cumulative total cases after New York (411,515) and California (387,636). New York, which was the pandemic epicenter in the U.S. (and the world) early on, has got it way down now. California is the most populous state, so almost inevitably a large case count comes with the territory.

On a per-capita basis, California is a little below the U.S. average {worldometers}, sorted by cumulative cases per 1M population. It's number 23, including the District of Columbia as a state, or #22 leaving D.C. out.

But on daily new cases PER CAPITA, 7 day moving average, California appears to be #12 (10th on the list of "where new cases are increasing", but in the list of "where new cases are mostly the same", there are two higher on this metric than California: Arizona and South Carolina. (NYTimes link at the top of this post)

Texas is 331,067 cases, looks like #4 in cumulative total cases.

{worldometers} https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Danascot

(4,690 posts)
41. ... the entire country of China has less than 1/3 the total Covid-19 cases that Florida does
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:14 AM
Jul 2020

according to Johns Hopkins data. As of Monday (7/13), China had 85,117 total cases since the pandemic started, compared to Florida's 282,435.

As of Monday, Italy (population 60 million) had 243,230 cases from throughout the pandemic. Florida (population 21 million) has already surpassed that number, at 282,435.

At least 4,277 Floridians have died from Covid-19. A Boeing 747 plane can carry about 400 passengers. That means the coronavirus death toll from Florida is about the same as if 10 jumbo jets crashed, killing everyone on board.

Article is from 7/13.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/13/health/florida-coronavirus-cases-comparisons/index.html

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,123 posts)
21. The White House and enabling govs are getting rid of Democratic voters.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 04:55 PM
Jul 2020

There is no other reasonable explanation. It is extermination- trump-style.

oldsoftie

(12,557 posts)
27. Its probably killing more Trump voters. Most deaths are over 65.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 05:23 PM
Jul 2020

He got a good chunk of those voters last time.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
44. Unfortunately, the demographics aren't that one-dimensional.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 10:25 AM
Jul 2020

People of color are dying at a higher rate than are white elderly Floridians. There is no telling how this mismanagement of a pandemic is going to impact voters available to cast a ballot in November.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
28. they're getting rid of their own voters as well...
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 05:24 PM
Jul 2020

I think they want everyone to get sick, and those that die, die, and those that survive, survive..until there's a vaccine. It doesn't matter what the contagion is, how it affects people long term. The only thing that matters is business must open, and people must get back to work. How they see it playing out is another story. The end-game must be brutal.

yuiyoshida

(41,832 posts)
38. Hell of a way to fucking purge the voter polls....
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 01:43 AM
Jul 2020

maybe that's why Trump is doing nothing, maybe he thinks his base will survive... i doubt that very much.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
36. Preference is more significant than turnout
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 09:16 PM
Jul 2020

Trump cannot systematically kill enough toward net gain to make up for what he loses in approval and therefore preference.

He's not scheming. He's an overmatched moron.

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
33. Couldn't happen in worse place....
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 06:19 PM
Jul 2020

Florida is not only one of the most populous states, but the second oldest with respect to average age. It's a disaster of biblical proportions and will burn the Trump presidency to the damn ground. Mark my word.

AdamGG

(1,292 posts)
39. If his Predidency hasn't already been burned to the ground
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 02:32 AM
Jul 2020

something is seriously, seriously wrong.

Evolve Dammit

(16,743 posts)
42. Using a crisis to further divide U.S. This is knowing, willful and reckless. Criminality defined.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:43 AM
Jul 2020

25th Amendment time yet????

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