Missouri governor says he'd pardon St. Louis couple if they are charged for brandishing guns at prot

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Missouri Gov. Mike Parson (R) suggested on Friday that he was prepared to pardon a St. Louis couple if charges were filed against them for brandishing firearms at a group of protesters outside their home.

Speaking on "The Marc Cox Morning Show" on 97.1 FM in St. Louis, Parson was asked about an investigation circuit attorney Kim Gardner launched into Mark and Patricia McCloskey. The two were seen in widely shared footage from June pointing guns at a group of protesters who were walking down their street as part of a demonstration.

The McCloskeys claimed in a police report that they felt threatened by the demonstrators and feared that they would assault them or destroy their property. But Gardner said that she would look into the events, noting at the outset of her probe that "we will not tolerate the use of force against those exercising their First Amendment rights."

Parson strongly pushed back against the impetus for the investigation, saying that the McCloskeys "did what they legally should do."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/missouri-governor-says-hed-pardon-st-louis-couple-if-they-are-charged-for-brandishing-guns-at-protesters/ar-BB16VqAL?li=BBnb7Kz

Good old Missouri racist traditions.

[5X]

1. Just to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt the white privilege.

[SWBTATTReg]

2. how did you get racism out of this? not all of the protesters walking by on the sidewalks were...

black, in fact, a mix of white and black protesters.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Mcclosky+protesters&docid=608053359113538245&mid=13EE1003051A466B69D613EE1003051A466B69D6&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

[Bernardo de La Paz]

14. Do you imagine that Governor doing the same for gun-waving black homeowners?

[SWBTATTReg]

15. I don't know what the ignorant governor would do, but there are a lot of black police officers in

STLMO and I think that the governor is a gun nut/freak, wouldn't matter what color the person welding the gun would be. It would be the guns that are more important to the idiotic governor than anything else.

[ProfessorGAC]

3. And, They'd Still Have A Criminal Record

Lawyers, with a criminal record & a known, politically motivated pardon.
What could go wrong in that profession?

[customerserviceguy]

4. Doesn't a pardon

wipe out a criminal record, as least as far as the offense being pardoned?

And if the case never goes to trial, there's no criminal conviction.

[ProfessorGAC]

11. It Didn't With Roger Stone

Nor Oliver North.
It just eliminates the sentence and restores some rights.
This is from DOJ:

While a presidential pardon will restore various rights lost as a result of the pardoned offense and should lessen to some extent the stigma arising from a conviction, it will not erase or expunge the record of your conviction

[customerserviceguy]

13. With Stone

it was a commutation and not a pardon. I don't remember what happened with North.

Also, if a pardon is issued before a criminal conviction and stops judicial action, then there is no conviction.

[fescuerescue]

10. The point of the announcement is to tell the prosecutor "don't waste your time"

So it's unlikely this will be prosecuted.

[ProfessorGAC]

12. What Party Is The State's Attorney?

If he's not R, he might go forward to make a point.

[SWBTATTReg]

17. He's of course a repug too. Most MO state offices are populated by the moronic party, guns are ...

number 1 and everybody else in the state is wrong about responsible gun ownership. Idiots. I don't mind responsible gun ownership, its the running immediately after one's guns and threatening to use them so quickly when they even remotely feel threatened (even when they are not in reality threatened).

[ProfessorGAC]

19. So Much For That, Then

Pointing a gun at someone not actually threatening, except to the cowards with the guns, is legal in Missouri.
Got it.

[SWBTATTReg]

20. Sounds crazy, doesn't it? That's why I wish the circuit attorney of the city of St. Louis MO ...

would charge these two w/ some sort of crime, maybe simple assault or the like, threatening the protesters who were simply walking on the sidewalk, past their home, on the way somewhere else. These two idiots (touting the guns) were idiots and could have caused some crap over literally nothing. Have a trial with a jury of the city's peers, and let us judge for ourselves just how reckless these two idiots were. I got a feeling that they won't unfortunately, being that's it is gotten so political. Ridiculous.

[ProfessorGAC]

21. +1 (nt)

[ProfessorGAC]

22. Update

Since we were bandying this around. A bit of a surprise. DA pushing criminal charges.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213781670

[Bernardo de La Paz]

16. Plus pardons don't erase convictions & convicted felons can't own firearms. . . . nt

[SWBTATTReg]

18. Good point, I didn't remember this, but you're absolutely right. Thanks for the reminder!

[JCMach1]

5. But let me guess they would be pushing for the death penalty if someone had shot them

in self-defense...

Same as it ever was...

[blitzen]

6. If it's a federal charge (fat chance, I know), Trump will be forced to pardon them. n/t

[raccoon]

7. I figured him for a Republican. NT

[SWBTATTReg]

8. Yes, he was put into office when our elected governor Eric Greitens resigned. Parsons stepped ...

into the governorship and he's proven to be a typical political hack, slow on fighting the CV (it is a hoax!), and is shepherding the fast and rapid spread of the CV in MO by following the idiotic directives from the rump WH.

Parsons will never ever get elected. He's been a worthless governor and proves it on a daily basis with his licking of trump's shoes.

[uponit7771]

9. smmfh, they are tripling down on Trump ... they're true believers