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RandySF

(58,982 posts)
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 05:57 PM Jul 2020

DHS Confirms Barr Will Be Deploying His Black Ops Interagency Army Nationwide


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Josh Marshall
@joshtpm
Deputy Secretary of DHS Ken Cuccinelli tells NPR not only are they not stopping the Portland tactics they're going to take them nationwide.
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DHS Confirms Barr Will Be Deploying His Black Ops Interagency Army Nationwide (Original Post) RandySF Jul 2020 OP
K & R...for visibility...nt Wounded Bear Jul 2020 #1
Call your Congresspeople. Zoonart Jul 2020 #2
Second your plea cp Jul 2020 #15
My congressman is a tea party Republican. wnylib Jul 2020 #48
Somehow, this must be stopped. Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #3
Local police are going to need to be prepared to confront these people. coti Jul 2020 #4
You mean the ones certain folks want to defund? superpatriotman Jul 2020 #5
This is NOT a domestic or mental health issue where MyOwnPeace Jul 2020 #24
That'd be fine provided the local constabulary isn't in cahoots with them. oasis Jul 2020 #8
Then higher levels of local and State law enforcement needs to arrest them. WyattKansas Jul 2020 #16
Let's hope what you outline here happens. This crap must not oasis Jul 2020 #21
where I live I am sure the local police would go nuts over this shit Skittles Jul 2020 #17
Same here, madamesilverspurs Jul 2020 #28
Pretty sure Wichita cops would NOT welcome them. Blue_playwright Jul 2020 #42
Time to buy stock in pitchforks. Frustratedlady Jul 2020 #6
Nah. Just liberal cities. They need scary footage for pro -Trump campaign ads. Freethinker65 Jul 2020 #7
What's "not gonna happen" is effective opposition to dictatorship via a muddled disputed election lostnfound Jul 2020 #10
Man, you got that one right! Firestorm49 Jul 2020 #12
Yup. orangecrush Jul 2020 #22
I am worried about that too, if he assumes a second term. Freethinker65 Jul 2020 #38
+100000 Celerity Jul 2020 #39
Nebraska governor Pete Ricketts will frogmarch Jul 2020 #9
The election can't get here soon enough. Firestorm49 Jul 2020 #11
They're declaring war on protests and sending in mercs. MerryBlooms Jul 2020 #13
if there is not enough civil unrest... stillcool Jul 2020 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author morillon Jul 2020 #18
I hope the ACLU gets a nationwide restraining order ASAP. This is sickening. SunSeeker Jul 2020 #19
These are Trump's Anti-Antifa shock troops, dispatched to round up black-clad protesters at all sop Jul 2020 #20
They don't have the manpower to occupy every major city in the US Fiendish Thingy Jul 2020 #23
Apparently Barr and Trump are now "boofing" without a girl. hunter Jul 2020 #25
Time to defund ellie Jul 2020 #26
My first thought as well Bayard Jul 2020 #32
Fuck that shit Blue Owl Jul 2020 #27
That is were we are at. warmfeet Jul 2020 #43
I hope something bad happens to Cuccinelli and Barr. LiberalFighter Jul 2020 #29
why haven't they contracted covid yet? vapor2 Jul 2020 #51
local/state officals shouldn't put up with this. Takket Jul 2020 #30
Some important statistics to consider: Fiendish Thingy Jul 2020 #31
Yah that shit's not gonna fly. Piss off Lightfoot and JB Pritzker & you've got civil war trouble. ancianita Jul 2020 #50
Who's going to stop this from happening? What power does the Governor's have. FloridaBlues Jul 2020 #33
Lavrentiy Beria WVreaper Jul 2020 #34
Barr probably can't wait to send them Ilsa Jul 2020 #35
Wonder if Barr has put a bounty on protestors bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #49
The right wing 'boogaloos' and others are armed and ready. How many on the left can say the same? johnthewoodworker Jul 2020 #36
Many of us can say the same. warmfeet Jul 2020 #44
Solid analysis ! Gilbert Moore Jul 2020 #37
Welcome, and glad you came in from the cold. niyad Jul 2020 #55
I hesitate here. BadgerMom Jul 2020 #40
i'm calling governor Luhan Grisham's office Monday. triron Jul 2020 #41
K & R with a shining light... Tommymac Jul 2020 #45
Did they say when they will take over the banks? bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #46
Stop this shit right now. WVreaper Jul 2020 #47
game on, motherfuckers.... dhill926 Jul 2020 #52
Who would have thought that a giant, Orwellian-named LudwigPastorius Jul 2020 #53
yes cynical_idealist Jul 2020 #58
I think part of this has to do with the court fast tracking trump's taxes vapor2 Jul 2020 #54
Funny that the party that claims to be against tyranny in all its forms... Initech Jul 2020 #56
Get Barr the hell our of there! Now! TryLogic Jul 2020 #57

cp

(6,641 posts)
15. Second your plea
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 06:20 PM
Jul 2020

Time to take this seriously. Call your Congress critters. Shine a light on this and defund it pronto.

wnylib

(21,511 posts)
48. My congressman is a tea party Republican.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 08:19 PM
Jul 2020

Waste of time to call him. Better for me to contact a Dem Housr member nearby in next district.

The House MUST stop this by cutting off funds to DHS until it is resolved.

coti

(4,612 posts)
4. Local police are going to need to be prepared to confront these people.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 06:05 PM
Jul 2020

This is illegal in a number of ways.

MyOwnPeace

(16,929 posts)
24. This is NOT a domestic or mental health issue where
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 06:48 PM
Jul 2020

a social worker would perhaps be better equipped to handle such a situation - this is NATIONAL SECURITY and CONSTITUTIONAL LAW!

"Defund" does NOT eliminate - it directs funds in a more appropriate way.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
16. Then higher levels of local and State law enforcement needs to arrest them.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 06:21 PM
Jul 2020

None of the Secret Federal Force should be allowed to deploy without all necessary paperwork and steps taken. If anything is out of place or any law is violated, arrest everyone involved and refuse bail until they rat out their chain of command and follow up that chain. If locals are involved in illegal activity, then they need to be removed from their jobs immediately by their bosses, which is ultimately the people. Force the stand off and confrontation they want to impose... They are not in a position of being on solid ground with the public, especially when the assholes that put them there are plummeting in the polls and approval ratings.

oasis

(49,393 posts)
21. Let's hope what you outline here happens. This crap must not
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 06:43 PM
Jul 2020

be allowed to get out of control.

p.s. I made a minor edit of my original post for reasons of clarity.

Blue_playwright

(1,568 posts)
42. Pretty sure Wichita cops would NOT welcome them.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 07:59 PM
Jul 2020

Pretty sure Wichita cops would NOT welcome them. They would likely be pissed.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
6. Time to buy stock in pitchforks.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 06:06 PM
Jul 2020

I have a feeling they will be a popular commodity before long.

Good grief, what are they thinking? They must be ashamed of what they are doing, or they'd identify themselves. This secrecy shit is beyond anything I would have believed could happen in America, but here we are.

Freethinker65

(10,026 posts)
7. Nah. Just liberal cities. They need scary footage for pro -Trump campaign ads.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 06:08 PM
Jul 2020

They want white rural areas scared and to believe only Trump can save them from scary urban people. Might work in some places, but not as effective this time around.

And Trump thinks suburban Soccer moms will fall for the same racist nonsense. Not going to happen.

lostnfound

(16,186 posts)
10. What's "not gonna happen" is effective opposition to dictatorship via a muddled disputed election
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 06:12 PM
Jul 2020

America will slide down the drain with barely a whimper.
Quite worried.

Freethinker65

(10,026 posts)
38. I am worried about that too, if he assumes a second term.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 07:48 PM
Jul 2020

I just think at this point in time it is all for image and propaganda. If people are able to vote, and have their vote counted, Trump should go down in flames.

Celerity

(43,442 posts)
39. +100000
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 07:48 PM
Jul 2020

All of this force projection is test-bedding for a shitshow of a power grab utilising quasi-constitutional gamesmanship via hybrid, non-linear warfare and reflexive control. The resultant multi-faceted fog of war will present the opportunity to go for the biggest power play that is deemed possible.

Firestorm49

(4,035 posts)
11. The election can't get here soon enough.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 06:14 PM
Jul 2020

I can only hope that, barring a complete takeover of the country by Trump before November (which I don’t doubt is on their minds) that charges can be filed against Barr as well as Trump after what we idealise as a free and fair election.

The framers of our Constitution must be rolling in their graves.

God help us all.

MerryBlooms

(11,770 posts)
13. They're declaring war on protests and sending in mercs.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 06:15 PM
Jul 2020

Time for Portland to have a Naked Athena bicycle protest ride.
Stay strong, Portland! I miss you so much.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
14. if there is not enough civil unrest...
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 06:15 PM
Jul 2020

they will create it. 'We the people' have to be smart. Let the white supremacists fight the Gestapo

Response to RandySF (Original post)

sop

(10,208 posts)
20. These are Trump's Anti-Antifa shock troops, dispatched to round up black-clad protesters at all
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 06:40 PM
Jul 2020

those "terrorist leftwing gatherings" taking place in cities controlled by Democrats. Didn't Republicans already try this during the Reagan years? They were called "Contras" back then; US-backed and funded right-wing paramilitary groups who committed atrocities in Central America.

Republicans are bringing home all the repressive tactics they once used to control leftist movements in third world countries, and are now targeting Americans. So far they've kidnapped a few people and merely taken them for a ride. I suppose it won't be long before they'll be taking them for one-way rides in helicopters, and disappearing them.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,631 posts)
23. They don't have the manpower to occupy every major city in the US
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 06:47 PM
Jul 2020

Unless they are going to leave the border checkpoints and every red state federal courthouse unstaffed, they don’t have the manpower to simultaneously invade every major city.

Personally, I’d like to see them try it in Chicago...

Takket

(21,583 posts)
30. local/state officals shouldn't put up with this.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 07:18 PM
Jul 2020

they should order the police to treat any unmarked gestapo member as "impersonating an officer" and arrest them.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,631 posts)
31. Some important statistics to consider:
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 07:18 PM
Jul 2020

The invasion in Portland is primarily involving CBP officers from the BORTAC (equivalent of SWAT) team. Wikipedia says CBP has 45,000 sworn agents and officers, of which approx. 21,000 are officers. Of those 21,000, Only 220 CBP officers are currently Active on the BORTAC team.

The other federal service being used in the Portland invasion is the US Marshalls Special Operations Group. The US Marshalls has approx. 4,000 sworn deputies, of which only a small portion are SOG trained.

Portland is a city of 650,000, and I’m guessing there are maybe a couple dozen federal agents wreaking havoc in this invasion. This quote is attributed to Ken Cuccinelli, a long time GOP operative. I believe he was one of The RWNJ’s pushing the illegal immigrant voting fraud nonsense after Trump lost the popular vote.

They can try to “take this nationwide”, and while they may succeed in terrorizing some communities, with limited resources and growing outcry, it’s bound to fail. The more cities they try to invade, the more Trump’s poll numbers will drop.

Like I said in another post, I’d like to see them try to invade and control the streets of Chicago, or L.A., or Detroit, or Atlanta...

ancianita

(36,110 posts)
50. Yah that shit's not gonna fly. Piss off Lightfoot and JB Pritzker & you've got civil war trouble.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 08:23 PM
Jul 2020

Watch what black gangs with guns do.

FloridaBlues

(4,008 posts)
33. Who's going to stop this from happening? What power does the Governor's have.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 07:25 PM
Jul 2020

Oregon Gov went on tv to ask them not to be there but no difference. They are still there.
Seriously who can stop them from being at any city?

WVreaper

(621 posts)
34. Lavrentiy Beria
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 07:25 PM
Jul 2020

The head of Stalin's secret police, the NKVD, was executed when Nikita Khrushchev came to power. Ken Cuccinelli, please remember that.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
35. Barr probably can't wait to send them
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 07:30 PM
Jul 2020

to Atlanta to harass Keisha Lance Bottoms, and bolster Kemp who will welcome them.

What amazes me is that people on social media believe that it is the protestors doing damage vs the provocateurs.

bucolic_frolic

(43,209 posts)
49. Wonder if Barr has put a bounty on protestors
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 08:20 PM
Jul 2020

You know, they seem to have no problem with that tactic against our own troops

 

johnthewoodworker

(694 posts)
36. The right wing 'boogaloos' and others are armed and ready. How many on the left can say the same?
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 07:32 PM
Jul 2020

When the shit hits the fan in the next 6 months I don't think calls to our congressmen, or signing an online petition is going to carry much weight. Very hard times are ahead of us.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
44. Many of us can say the same.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 08:11 PM
Jul 2020

If this is what needs to happen, let it happen. I am ready. I fear Covid-19 far more than boogielose. I may even help them to find their lost boogie.

BadgerMom

(2,771 posts)
40. I hesitate here.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 07:53 PM
Jul 2020

A fellow Santa Fean on Twitter noticed federal agents and their unmarked vehicles outside the Post Office and Federal Courthouse yesterday. She said she asked why they were there and got a non-answer. She called Gov. Grisham’s office and got crickets. New Mexico is a blue state. I wonder what’s up in Sacramento, Albany, Springfield, etc.

triron

(22,007 posts)
41. i'm calling governor Luhan Grisham's office Monday.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 07:56 PM
Jul 2020

And also Senators Heinrich and Udall.

Send this to Rachel.

bucolic_frolic

(43,209 posts)
46. Did they say when they will take over the banks?
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 08:12 PM
Jul 2020

That should concern even Trumpers. There is no end to this policy once it gets established.

LudwigPastorius

(9,156 posts)
53. Who would have thought that a giant, Orwellian-named
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 08:31 PM
Jul 2020

security agency would eventually live up to its proto-fascist name?

vapor2

(1,248 posts)
54. I think part of this has to do with the court fast tracking trump's taxes
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 08:33 PM
Jul 2020

He will do anything and everything to change the narrative and at any expense. Dems need to fight fire with fire

Initech

(100,087 posts)
56. Funny that the party that claims to be against tyranny in all its forms...
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 08:47 PM
Jul 2020

Elected and continues to support the most tyrannical administrations in American history.

TryLogic

(1,723 posts)
57. Get Barr the hell our of there! Now!
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 08:50 PM
Jul 2020

Trump and other fascists (and Putin) want civil war. I think they might just get it.

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