I'm sorry, but what other country's border is Portland on again?

[coti]

Isn't there, among other issues, a subject matter jurisdiction problem here?

[maxsolomon]

1. The Coast is a border.

Don't hang your hat on that one.

[coti]

3. I said OTHER country's border.

And don't tell me the CBP were only hanging out at the airport, either.

[csziggy]

5. Yes - Florida has a constant invasion of DHS/ICE agents

Harassing people. They have stopped Greyhound buses to pull of people suspected of not having the right papers. Since they claim the right to "patrol" within 100 miles of the US border and pretty much there is no where in Florida less than 100 miles from a coast, they "patrol" the entire state.

[coti]

6. As awful as that is, they weren't even asking for "papers" in Portland.

Exactly what the FUCK business do they have there?

[csziggy]

12. I know - I saw the video of one of the kidnappings

The masked guys in camouflage never identified themselves, never told the man being kidnapped why they were accosting him, and refused to respond to the bystanders (I loved the woman telling them to "Use your words!&quot .

Absolute fascism is the only description I can give this.

[CanonRay]

9. The other side of the coast is Washington

[coti]

11. The river (Columbia), even. Which is all just American territory.

Portland is about 60 miles to the ocean, as the crow flies. From there, another 50 miles to international waters, right? Isn't that our border?

That would make Portland 110 miles from the border.

[Phoenix61]

2. They are able to work 100 miles from any external border. nt

[coti]

4. Were they engaging in customs work?

Are they taking over for the Coast Guard?

[standingtall]

7. Nah their taking over for Himmler's SS

Rebranding as Barr's secret police.

[Phoenix61]

8. Doesn't look that way. I'm sure Barr figured

it was worth a try, the 100 miles and all that. I almost think he’s worse than Twitler. At least Twitler is stupid. They’re both evil as shit.

[coti]

10. They're going to try to engage all the way up and down E and W coasts, the biggest cities, with that

bullshit.

[Wounded Bear]

13. Portland OR to Blaine WA is 241 miles as the crow flies...

[Phoenix61]

14. It's 80 miles from the coast, which is a border. nt

[coti]

20. 50 miles into the ocean is still our territory

[gratuitous]

15. Portland is close enough to international waters to give CBP jurisdiction

This is the kind of abuse of authority that leads to congressional reforms. And when the Border Patrol complains about it, they are the first in line for the blame.

[Nevilledog]

17. Still gotta be federal crimes to be involved.

[gratuitous]

18. Their excuse was that they were guarding the federal courthouse

There's also a square, Terry Schrunk Plaza, that is considered federal property and the Edith Green/Wendall Wyatt Federal Building. Once the nose of that camel is in the tent, though, the federal agents began pursuing people who weren't on the blocks of the federal building, courthouse or plaza. State and municipal authorities are asking for answers.

Unfortunately, the feds can hold someone for 72 hours without having to go before a magistrate or a judge, and CBP is using that leniency in the law to take people into custody then releasing them when they decline to talk and start asking for a lawyer. Another abuse of authority that could have very bad consequences when Congress starts considering reforms.

[Nevilledog]

19. They have 72 hours to file charges IF they had probable cause to detain/arrest you.

There's a reason there's no paperwork of these people being arrested. There's no probable cause and they'd have to file fake reports to justify their actions. I trust the ACLU to pursue this.

[LiberalArkie]

16. Here ya go