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highplainsdem

(49,044 posts)
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 12:28 PM Jul 2020

Batshit, threatening tweets this morning about Portland from Acting DHS Secretary Chad Wolf

Or as the Lincoln Project's John Weaver calls him, "the Brown Shirted thug."



Wolf's tweets this morning, the first one:






“I offered @DHSgov support to help locally address the situation that’s going on in Portland, and their only response was: please pack up and go home. That’s just not going to happen on my watch.”




That was followed by a three-tweet thread starting here, full text below (see the tweets for images) -- and Weaver's comment calling Wolf a Brown Shirt was a reply to the first tweet in this thread:







Our men and women in uniform are patriots. We will never surrender to violent extremists on my watch.


Here is what I saw in Portland yesterday.


These valiant men and women have defended our institutions of justice against violent anarchists for 48 straight days. We will prevail.




And the latest tweet from this despicable Trump flunky, objecting to an Associated Press story on the unnecessarily violent attacks by federal officers on protesters:






Let’s get this right. “Protestors” imply they were peacefully exercising their 1st amendment rights. Instead, DHS officers were assaulted with lasers and frozen water bottles from violent criminals attempting to tear down federal property. 2 officers were injured. Facts matter.




John Weaver's response to him:






If clicking that link also shows a reply to Weaver from Veronica Escobar, a Democratic House candidate in Texas, you'll see she ended her tweet about Wolf with the hashtag #whatatool.

To which Weaver replied that Wolf's "a dangerous tool. This budding brown shirted behavior must be checked."
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Batshit, threatening tweets this morning about Portland from Acting DHS Secretary Chad Wolf (Original Post) highplainsdem Jul 2020 OP
Attacked with lasers??!?!? Coventina Jul 2020 #1
He means laser pointers aimed at their eyes nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 2020 #2
Death Rays! ROFL! ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #18
Who sez they are low wattage HeNe? Disaffected Jul 2020 #34
Not Believing It ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #35
Not believing what?? Disaffected Jul 2020 #40
Do You Do Stand-Up, Too? ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #41
And you appear to be irrational. Disaffected Jul 2020 #43
Biden must disband the DHS and prosecute Wolf and all brown shirts following illegal orders Fiendish Thingy Jul 2020 #3
Indeed. A truly fascist concept being used against Americans 1st Amendment rights to protest. OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2020 #11
DHS is another gilt from Dumbya and Cheney malaise Jul 2020 #13
But many Dems voted for it too nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 2020 #28
Context matters. maxsolomon Jul 2020 #36
Not an excuse. Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #38
Go away, you're not wanted Dem2 Jul 2020 #4
The Governor should order his arrest n/t malaise Jul 2020 #5
You are going down buddy!! No doubt. Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #6
Kurt Andersen: This guy is a lying crypto-fascist ex-lobbyist asshole highplainsdem Jul 2020 #7
These aren't US military - these are privately hired mercenaries FakeNoose Jul 2020 #8
The uniforms are DHS police uniforms, according to tweets I've seen. highplainsdem Jul 2020 #17
The governor of oregon is a woman, just FYI aidbo Jul 2020 #20
See this tweet from a journalist about the uniforms: highplainsdem Jul 2020 #22
+1 Makes sense given that Wolf supported child bronxiteforever Jul 2020 #23
Her, Governor Katy Brown of Oregon.... 2naSalit Jul 2020 #29
I would send in the police Swat Teams, Armored vehicles, and police to surround them. WyattKansas Jul 2020 #44
I would send in the police Swat Teams, Armored vehicles, and police to surround them. WyattKansas Jul 2020 #45
Norm Ornstein: Chad Wolf does not belong anywhere in a civil society. highplainsdem Jul 2020 #9
So brave superpatriotman Jul 2020 #10
I've seen some tweets about Wolf's obvious concern for his image: highplainsdem Jul 2020 #27
How do these MF get off saying they are patriots? captain queeg Jul 2020 #12
Brian Beutler: At least when judgment day comes you can say you were just following orders and highplainsdem Jul 2020 #14
Tell your brownshirts to identify themselves before detaining people and coti Jul 2020 #15
Howard Fineman: The wolfish Chad Wolf, eager to impress Trump... This is last-days-of-Weimar stuff. highplainsdem Jul 2020 #16
Why does it feel Nature Man Jul 2020 #19
Another novelty cigar will explode in Trump's face gratuitous Jul 2020 #21
May they all die of diarrhea. LiberalFighter Jul 2020 #24
Gotta be impeachable bluestarone Jul 2020 #25
Time to abolish the Dept. of Homeland Security Yeehah Jul 2020 #26
And of course, they start this bullshit 2naSalit Jul 2020 #30
"On my watch!..." Aristus Jul 2020 #31
'That's just not going to happen...'. Pfffft haHAhahahaha. Volaris Jul 2020 #32
K&R UTUSN Jul 2020 #33
These guys are obviously dressed for the deep, lush jungle that is Downtown Portland, OR A HERETIC I AM Jul 2020 #37
I'd like to know . . . peggysue2 Jul 2020 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Jul 2020 #42

ProfessorGAC

(65,227 posts)
18. Death Rays! ROFL!
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 12:50 PM
Jul 2020

I don't think it's possible to aim an ultralow wattage HeNe pointer into somebody's eyes to do retinal damage.
First, all the victim has to do is close one eye!
Second, with the low divergence of the beam, it's not possible to hit both eyes at the same time.
Third, few people's hands are steady enough to hold it still, and accurately move if the target moves by a quarter inch.
No matter what this moron says, laser pointers are not a weapon, of any description.

Disaffected

(4,569 posts)
34. Who sez they are low wattage HeNe?
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 02:41 PM
Jul 2020

Green and blue laser pointers are available with much higher power (even though they may be illegal in some jurisdictions) which will cause eye damage with even brief exposure.

Disaffected

(4,569 posts)
40. Not believing what??
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 04:56 PM
Jul 2020
https://www.laserpointerpro.com/attribute/power_1000mw-lasers_26

And there is no aiming problem (unless maybe you have the DTs).

BTW, try aiming a laser pointer at an aircraft and see how much trouble you are in if they find you.

ProfessorGAC

(65,227 posts)
41. Do You Do Stand-Up, Too?
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 05:07 PM
Jul 2020

You're Hilarious.
I don't believe that anybody was weaponizing a laser.
And if you think a direct strike on the retina is the same as hitting something with 25 time the profile, even at altitude, then I pity you.
I'm done with someone trying to defend the gestapo.
Bye!

Disaffected

(4,569 posts)
43. And you appear to be irrational.
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 06:02 PM
Jul 2020
"I don't believe that anybody was weaponizing a laser."


Yes, I realize that but you have presented absolutely no logical reasons for your belief. Did the URL I supplied change you beliefs at all about high power laser pointers?

"And if you think a direct strike on the retina is the same as hitting something with 25 time the profile, even at altitude, then I pity you."


LOL. What on earth are you talking about?? The major concern with pointing a laser at an aircraft is it striking the pilot's eyes, not the bloody fuselage. And please don't tell us again that there would be an aiming problem.

"I'm done with someone trying to defend the gestapo."


Good grief, who is trying to defend the "gestapo"??

Are you actually a professor?


Fiendish Thingy

(15,669 posts)
3. Biden must disband the DHS and prosecute Wolf and all brown shirts following illegal orders
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 12:35 PM
Jul 2020

We can’t wait 20 years for justice like Chile did with Pinochet and his enablers.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,648 posts)
11. Indeed. A truly fascist concept being used against Americans 1st Amendment rights to protest.
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 12:42 PM
Jul 2020

I'd also fire the ICE leadership and reconstitute both the mission and the personnel hired.

maxsolomon

(33,419 posts)
36. Context matters.
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 02:49 PM
Jul 2020

DHS was a post-9/11 creation. In that climate, opposing it was not politically tenable for many Dems.

It doesn't make them equally responsible for it.

Ms. Toad

(34,109 posts)
38. Not an excuse.
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 03:03 PM
Jul 2020

They are not equally responsible, but they are also responsible. That a vote is politically unpopular is not an excuse to vote to authorize some of the most repressive practices in our lifetime - practices that it was easy to predict would be used by an authoritarian Republicans against those with whom they differ politically (or religiously).

FakeNoose

(32,791 posts)
8. These aren't US military - these are privately hired mercenaries
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 12:39 PM
Jul 2020

Who hired them, and where did they come from? What is their mission?

If the Governor of Oregon has a problem maintaining order, it's HIS PREROGATIVE to call up the Oregon National Guard. It's not the federal government's opportunity to interfere when they haven't been invited in.


bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
23. +1 Makes sense given that Wolf supported child
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 12:58 PM
Jul 2020

separation policy. Using the same family breakers to do the dirty work.

2naSalit

(86,822 posts)
29. Her, Governor Katy Brown of Oregon....
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 01:37 PM
Jul 2020

But yes, she should call in the NG for her state as they have been invaded by an insurgent armed force.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
44. I would send in the police Swat Teams, Armored vehicles, and police to surround them.
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 06:37 PM
Jul 2020

And instruct to alleged HMS force that they had no authority to be there or impose any order on a citizen. While calling up the National Guard in the waiting if they did not leave to arrest them. Call their damn bully bluff.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
45. I would send in the police Swat Teams, Armored vehicles, and police to surround them.
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 06:38 PM
Jul 2020

And instruct to alleged homeland force that they had no authority to be there or impose any order on a citizen. While calling up the National Guard in the waiting if they did not leave and arrest them. Call their damn bully bluff.

captain queeg

(10,267 posts)
12. How do these MF get off saying they are patriots?
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 12:43 PM
Jul 2020

They are doing their best to incite violence. Scary stuff, I hope there is national outrage.

highplainsdem

(49,044 posts)
14. Brian Beutler: At least when judgment day comes you can say you were just following orders and
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 12:44 PM
Jul 2020

140,000 Americans died of graffiti.



coti

(4,612 posts)
15. Tell your brownshirts to identify themselves before detaining people and
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 12:46 PM
Jul 2020

maybe they'll have a stronger claim to authority.

Of course, they'll also be able to be held accountable for their actions, then.

Nature Man

(869 posts)
19. Why does it feel
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 12:51 PM
Jul 2020

like they won't give up the White House regardless of whatever happens or who wins the presidential election?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
21. Another novelty cigar will explode in Trump's face
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 12:52 PM
Jul 2020

We're wise to the lies, Lord Littlehands. We're not taking your bait, and we're not going to give you the violent response you're itching to provoke (unless it's by your own thugs, which we're also ready for).

The national response is recognizing this for what it is, too. You're going to lose this round, too.

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
32. 'That's just not going to happen...'. Pfffft haHAhahahaha.
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 01:58 PM
Jul 2020

DHS Sec Idiot doesnt know that he doesnt get to make that decision. Welcome to a Posse Comitatus lawsuit, you braindead lackey.

I'll even go so far as to give him the benefit of the doubt, and say 'yep. They're ordered to guard federal property, so they can do that to they're hearts content.'

The other side of that street, tho, is NOT federal property and so they have no legal business being there, unless they're on break buying lunch.

And not for nothin, but Portland PD arresting a few of these mercenaries for being where they're not legally allowed to be, and in defense of peacful protesters, might be a good way to reduce calls for their local defunding. Just sayin.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,380 posts)
37. These guys are obviously dressed for the deep, lush jungle that is Downtown Portland, OR
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 02:58 PM
Jul 2020


It should be well remembered that decades of Cop shows on TV have programmed Americans to accept this sort of utter bullshit as normal.

peggysue2

(10,843 posts)
39. I'd like to know . . .
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 03:12 PM
Jul 2020

where they'e taking these protestors once picked up? I watched a vid the other day. Scary stuff. Literally snatching a protestor off the street and putting him/her into an unmarked car.

This is how it starts.

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