We may all be doomed.... reflections from a FB interaction

[JT45242]

This morning, I made a rare look onto Facebook. I used to only go on Facebook to show pics of my kids doing cool things: scout projects and events, band concert, going to camp, etc. Lately I have looked at what others have posted and made a few comments.

One of my best friends from HS had posted a questionable study about hydroxychloroquine and another one of her friends asked: What does this mean in laymen's terms.

So, I laid it out. In random trials, HCQ was worse. In the double blinded (gold standard for medication testing) study, it was stopped early because HCQ caused too many deaths. Only small post hoc studies of HCQ say anything good about it.

Then I said that the only way we beat this is if we have 100% mask wearing to prevent Covid because the 'best' treatment is the steroid used in England that decreased death rates of ICU patients by 16%.

My friend, who was a National Merit Semifinalist, has a degree in Biology and was at one point a certified HS science teacher. Said that she is through with wearing masks.

She started drinking the evangelical koolaid about 20 years ago. She is educated enough to know how viruses work. And she refuses to wear a mask. It is officially a death cult. They would rather we all die, then have everyone wear a mask for 6 -12 months.

I tried to point out that in Asia they were masks whenever they don't feel well or any disease flares up in society. They actually "Live Matthew 25 and take care of the least of these." I have little doubt that I will lose a friend over this. Either she will not speak to me again or more likely she or someone in her family will get it.

College educated one of the top 2.5% of the population in terms of raw intellectual ability and she is a death cult member. I really feel like we are all doomed.

[DonaldsRump]

1. With respect, your "friend" is an idiot

Last edited Thu Jul 16, 2020, 03:56 PM - Edit history (1)

We are not doomed. She and her family are.

FWIW, I wouldn't waste a second on her.

[Duppers]

23. Amen.

That person may be "educated" but she definitely does not have "raw intellectual ability" - no koolaid drinkers do.

Bet she never had a General Logic or Critical Reasoning course. Regurgitating course material is not the same as learning how to think.

[ScratchCat]

2. As I posted on another thread...

All this because why? Because one single individual called it a "hoax". One single person. That's where we are folks - millions of people willing to pretend a virus isn't real because they can't admit they threw a racial hissy-fit and voted for a con man.

I don't know that we make it past this either.

[CrispyQ]

5. Their inability to admit they were wrong or that they were conned is a HUGE part of the problem.

They share that trait with the Con. Admitting you're wrong or that you made a mistake is seen as a weakness. They will double down before they do that. I've seen it in the right wingers I know.

[KT2000]

3. Fundamentalism

I think just like fundamentalists in religion, they have turned off their thinking other than to adhere to the extremes of their religion. I believe it is really an ego exercise because it has everything to do with being seen by their peers as righteous. Trumpers likely use the same non-thought process and get the benefits of belonging to something bigger than themselves and the freedom to behave badly and justify their meanness. They call it freedom.

[CrispyQ]

4. I have a handful of rwnj's in my family & the religious one is by far the worst.

College educated, too.

Personally, I'm seething that my health & well-being is being put at risk for a longer period of time than it had to be, because a segment of our citizenry are arrogant, ignorant spoiled brats. I'm sorry your friend is one of them, but you said what had to be said.

[jmg257]

6. Ass holes all over....

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/you-cant-make-me-anti-maskers-revolt-after-walmart-announces-mandatory-face-covering-rule/

obedience masks... not about health... it's about doin' what you are told... no matter how stupid... and breathin' y'er own used air makes ya stupid... it's a simple fact... and the test is bullshit (:~

On that day, I will visit #Walmart without a #mask to intentionally give them a ration of shit! Like "if your mask works, why would I need one?"

@Walmart you have now joined the circus of fools with your mask requirement. We are being lied to about the spike. I have a medical condition so I won’t be wearing one. Oh and you can’t ask me about my medical condition.

etc. etc.

These people need a wake up...

[Phoenix61]

7. I'm right there with you. It's like zombie

apocalypse in real time.

[OneGrassRoot]

20. THIS. It's a tsunami for me...

I see (now former) friends spouting the same pro-Trump, pro-QAnon nonsense -- and education level matters not, nor does their profession. It's starting to frighten me, seeing this grow by the day. I agree, it's like the zombie apocalypse in real time.

[Mossfern]

8. Intelligence does not equal common sense.

[Stallion]

9. These Hucksters Offering Miracle Cures by Regurgitated E-mail Spam Ought to be Prosecuted

[stopbush]

10. Fear, hatred and self-loathing. The foundations of Christianity.

Almost impossible to fight, especially when an intelligent person embraces make believe. Christianity is an elitist conceit that our species would do well to rid itself of ASAP.

[JT45242]

16. Not a Christianity problem -- evangelicals don't speak for all of us

I am a Christian (original poster). I volunteer with youth locally and regionally. We go on mission trips to help rebuild communities damaged by floods, work with food pantries. I try to live Matthew 25 -- take care of the least of these -- Help with homeless shelters etc.


Every major religion has two basic tenets -- Love your God and Love your neighbor: Buddhist, Christian, Islam, Hindu, Judaism. They might define neighbor differently, but they all have it.

If the people who CLAIM to be Christians would love their neighbor as themselves, then they would wear a mask.

I have the same problem with Joel Osteen refusing to use his church to help when floods left thousands homeless.

[stopbush]

17. It's nice you volunteer and do humanitarian work.

You don’t need to be religious to act like a caring human being. I would guess that were you not a Xian you would do exactly what you do now.

[hamsterjill]

18. I am a believer

Thanks for your post. I am a believer and my faith is very important to me. Jesus embraces everyone via love, compassion and justice. The crazy, right wing evangelicals do not represent me nor IMHO do they represent the true teachings of Christ.

[Baked Potato]

11. In Life Poker, Religion beats Common Sense.

[Bettie]

12. Religion seems to be able to take the smartest people

and turn them into the clueless.

It isn't that they don't understand, they simply choose not to.

I say I'm agnostic, but that's just the hope that there is something else, functionally, I'm an atheist.

But, I can see the lure of believing that there is some benevolent father figure looking over us, absolving us of any wrongdoing and punishing those who "sin". The lure of evangelical Christianity is that that father figure, that "god" hates a whole lot of people and their churches give them not just permission but a command to use their religious beliefs as a bludgeon against anyone they deem "sinful".

Just my observations from being raised in an evangelical family. I've watched family members (mine and DH's) morph from benign church ladies and men into people who care nothing for those outside their church.

[Turbineguy]

13. A classmate in College

failed his Electrical Engineering exam. He was offered a retest with enough time to study up first. He didn't study. The night before the test he was reading his Bible. He told me "If God wants me to pass, I'll pass!" I told him I wasn't sure it worked quite that way. The next morning he took the exam and in the afternoon he packed his shit and left.

[Bettie]

15. And with some study, he'd have

probably been able to pass.

My grandmother, a religious woman who was also anti-authoritarian (she was the first woman on her church's board, all due to her persistence), hated the phrase "faith can move mountains".

Whenever she heard someone say that, she'd say that the faith doesn't actually move anything, but faith that the mountain will move plus a shovel might just do it.

[orwell]

14. It's not about intelligence...

...it's abut tribal identification.

She has joined the Evangelical Death Cult. And right now Don the Con is serving up the Kool-Aid.

Humans want more than anything to be part of a group. We are social animals. Her group dictates her stance even though her education has taught her that it is wrong.

They truly are a death cult at this point...

[leftyladyfrommo]

19. Some high IQ people are real idiots.

She may be good at biology but terrible at philosphy.

[misanthrope]

21. I stopped at "She started drinking the evangelical koolaid"

That's all I needed to hear.