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Cyrano

(15,041 posts)
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 01:11 PM Jul 2020

How do we get rid of an obvious madman who is the president?

It's been said again and again that the constitution is not a suicide pact. At this moment, it seems that it is.

We have a crazed, sadistic creature holding the most powerful job in the world. The vast majority of Americans know it and there's not a damn thing we can do about it.

When he loses on Nov. 3rd, it will drive him even madder. And yet, he'll still hold power for another two and a half months. Who knows what he'll do?

When/IF human beings survive this very dangerous period is an open question. But, if we do survive it, change is needed. The founding fathers couldn't imagine a human-like, totally ignorant, cruel creature ever holding the office of president. But it happened. It can never be allowed to happen again.

Trump and the entire current Republican Party must not only be beaten, they must be crushed. They are all enemies of freedom, science, and the reality that all the rest of us live in.

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How do we get rid of an obvious madman who is the president? (Original Post) Cyrano Jul 2020 OP
I have lost faith in Constitution handmade34 Jul 2020 #1
Me too -- the only advantage of living through this is live love laugh Jul 2020 #2
The flaws in the Constitution are now clear, but... BKDem Jul 2020 #9
+1, the biggest kink is in the judicial system taking their time to decide cases. They can & no law uponit7771 Jul 2020 #22
We have to make the GOP. . . DinahMoeHum Jul 2020 #3
+1 dalton99a Jul 2020 #7
THIS !!!! America needs to be constantly reminded of the horribles or some shit uponit7771 Jul 2020 #23
I'm rooting for an aneurysm. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #4
Even though I've seen the effects of one of those exploding, I can't help but agree Siwsan Jul 2020 #12
Looking at how they treated the nephew with the seizure disorder, I think you're correct. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #13
Exactly Siwsan Jul 2020 #15
I really think they are incapable of doing the right thing.......ever. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #16
If Trump doesn't have COVID now, he'll get it between now and then. Initech Jul 2020 #17
Best smilie!!! Nevilledog Jul 2020 #19
Burn raw GOP to the ground Zoonart Jul 2020 #5
+1. GOP legislators cannot be trusted and cannot be viewed as "esteemed friends and colleagues" dalton99a Jul 2020 #8
Like President Obama said Dreampuff Jul 2020 #6
The Constitution is a decrepit document that needs to be overhauled. nt Maven Jul 2020 #10
+1, especially the part were the judicial system can take its time calling time dependent cases uponit7771 Jul 2020 #25
Definitely BannonsLiver Jul 2020 #30
The conservanazis are going to destroy us. TxVietVet Jul 2020 #11
My fantasy is he has a stroke after losing in a landslide But refuses to resign and is incapacitated kimbutgar Jul 2020 #14
America the impotent world wide wally Jul 2020 #18
This is a worry every 4 years. Every 4 years fescuerescue Jul 2020 #20
I used to be with you on "not worried" ScratchCat Jul 2020 #27
I feel like sarisataka Jul 2020 #21
Simple. 4 Republicans need to find the courage to join the Senate Democrats in impeaching him. OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2020 #24
That would leave the vote sarisataka Jul 2020 #26
An, I thought it was a simple majority. OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2020 #28
The Republicans are more responsible than Trump himself. Kablooie Jul 2020 #29
Amen. GopherGal Jul 2020 #31
He might OD. GeorgeGist Jul 2020 #32

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
1. I have lost faith in Constitution
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 01:12 PM
Jul 2020

that allows this madness to go on for so long and do so much damage...

live love laugh

(13,118 posts)
2. Me too -- the only advantage of living through this is
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 01:17 PM
Jul 2020

knowing clearly the glaring deficiencies in our laws of governance so they can hopefully be fixed.

More scary, though, is the prospect of a looming Constitutional convention—something Republicans are a few states shy of making as a reality.

BKDem

(1,733 posts)
9. The flaws in the Constitution are now clear, but...
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 01:23 PM
Jul 2020

Trump was duly impeached, and all but one (one!) Republican Senator voted against his removal.

The Constitution can be fine-tuned, but not until this batch of Republicans is history.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
22. +1, the biggest kink is in the judicial system taking their time to decide cases. They can & no law
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 02:26 PM
Jul 2020

... makes them hurry the hell up

DinahMoeHum

(21,794 posts)
3. We have to make the GOP. . .
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 01:18 PM
Jul 2020

. . .the equivalent of the Germans at Stalingrad after their surrender in January 1943.

Beaten, broken, sick, starved, no hope.

NO MERCY, boys and girls. Pedal to the metal all the way to November 3 and beyond.






#newrostrong

Siwsan

(26,268 posts)
12. Even though I've seen the effects of one of those exploding, I can't help but agree
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 01:26 PM
Jul 2020

One of my neighbors - it was a brain aneurysm and it happened right in front of me and, fortunately, other neighbors. She survived but it was not a quality life. Of course, she didn't realize that - just everyone who had to take care of her knew the damage. Fortunately she had a great family. No doubt, the trump clan would shut him away and cut him from their lives as an inconvenient expense.

Siwsan

(26,268 posts)
15. Exactly
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 01:31 PM
Jul 2020

All I can think of is to compare how he'd likely be treated, to how Joe Kennedy Sr. was cared for by his family.

Zoonart

(11,869 posts)
5. Burn raw GOP to the ground
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 01:21 PM
Jul 2020

salt the earth.

They must never again be out in a position of Governance. Let the Lincoln folks start a new party, if indeed this is not already what they are doing.

dalton99a

(81,515 posts)
8. +1. GOP legislators cannot be trusted and cannot be viewed as "esteemed friends and colleagues"
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 01:22 PM
Jul 2020

They have shown themselves to be willing accomplices and traitors



Dreampuff

(778 posts)
6. Like President Obama said
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 01:21 PM
Jul 2020

"VOTE"

But I see your point. There is way too much time lapse in between the election and his exit from office.

BannonsLiver

(16,396 posts)
30. Definitely
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 03:12 PM
Jul 2020

The problem is everyone posting in this thread will be long dead by the time it’s changed. We won’t see it in our lifetimes unless you’re under 10 now and live a long time.

TxVietVet

(1,905 posts)
11. The conservanazis are going to destroy us.
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 01:25 PM
Jul 2020

tRump is now going to hide the reports on how bad he pandemic is striking the US. I'm betting he'll give Putin the numbers. Fox and the conservanazis are pushing more and more hatred into the middle of this pandemic over wearing a mask. Next up, open schools. Spread the virus even faster. Disable more and more of the population. The KKK in the White House are probably hoping the virus will kill minorities.

I firmly believe if tRump looses the election, conservanazi radicals will strat shooting those the perceive as "enemies of the state".

The conservanazi republikans enjoy their power and are willing to let the goofy POS tRump destoy this nation.

kimbutgar

(21,160 posts)
14. My fantasy is he has a stroke after losing in a landslide But refuses to resign and is incapacitated
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 01:31 PM
Jul 2020

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
20. This is a worry every 4 years. Every 4 years
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 02:19 PM
Jul 2020

If it's not us. It's the other side writing this same exact thing about our guy.

Im not worried. If he loses he'll leave. Just like the 44 before.

ScratchCat

(1,990 posts)
27. I used to be with you on "not worried"
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 02:34 PM
Jul 2020

But the GOP has "failed me" at every turn when I thought they would sack up and dump him. I firmly believe if he is aloud to run for re-election he will burn the country down. The numbers are just not there for him to win, and everyone outside the QANAON crowd realizes it. The GOP has one more chance here(after a half dozen or so..) to end this, and I'm 100% confident they WILL NOT.

If they were smart(they're not), they'd signal to Pelosi that they would convict and remove for the Stone commutation(clear impeachable offense) and the GOP could select a new candidate and move on.

But they wont, and the country is screwed because he WILL destroy it if allowed to. Too many people willing to believe any nonsense he says.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
24. Simple. 4 Republicans need to find the courage to join the Senate Democrats in impeaching him.
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 02:28 PM
Jul 2020

Say, they signal Schumer that they are ready to impeach on new articles ASAP. I think Nancy, Schiff, and Nadler could have the new articles voted in the House pretty quick...no investigation needed and expidite a vote. Walk it over to the Senate and demand a new Senate vote. Can Lindsey and McConnell stall/slow walk it? Don't know, but they will certainly pay a political price for their treachery.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
28. An, I thought it was a simple majority.
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 02:41 PM
Jul 2020

OK, I amend that to 15 Republicans...I assume Romney would still vote to impeach.

Actually, I wish Pelosi/Nadler/Schiff would do this anyway. Base it on his incompetence/criminal negligence of his actions on the CV-19 pandemic since January. Forced all of the Republicans to vote on Trump's fitness before the Nov.elections.

Make Trump the 1st Twice Impeached President! He can finally claim is rightful place in American history as the worst President ever.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
29. The Republicans are more responsible than Trump himself.
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 03:10 PM
Jul 2020

They could have removed him as the Constitution requires but they consciously decided to let him stay.
They are his enablers and should shoulder as much blame as Trump himself.

Really, what do you do when a voting majority in government are corrupt?
Is there anyway the Constitution could handle this?
I doubt it.

GopherGal

(2,008 posts)
31. Amen.
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 04:27 PM
Jul 2020

The constitution may not be a suicide pact, but the Repugnican party apparently is.

I think you could argue it's murder-suicide, actually.

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