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LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 06:27 PM Jul 2020

Absence of Apparent Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 from Two Stylists After Exposure at a Hair Salon with

Absence of Apparent Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 from Two Stylists After Exposure at a Hair Salon with a Universal Face Covering Policy — Springfield, Missouri, May 2020

Early Release / July 14, 2020 / 69

Summary
What is already known about this topic?

Consistent and correct use of cloth face coverings is recommended to reduce the spread of SARS-CoV-2.

What is added by this report?

Among 139 clients exposed to two symptomatic hair stylists with confirmed COVID-19 while both the stylists and the clients wore face masks, no symptomatic secondary cases were reported; among 67 clients tested for SARS-CoV-2, all test results were negative. Adherence to the community’s and company’s face-covering policy likely mitigated spread of SARS-CoV-2.

What are the implications for public health practice?

As stay-at-home orders are lifted, professional and social interactions in the community will present more opportunities for spread of SARS-CoV-2. Broader implementation of face covering policies could mitigate the spread of infection in the general population.



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https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6928e2.htm?s_cid=mm6928e2_w
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LisaL

(44,973 posts)
2. I don't think it always works this way.
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 06:35 PM
Jul 2020

The three teachers that all got sick while working summer school (no students) all got sick with covid and one died. All wore masks. Duration of the contact probably plays a role. Also, some people are superspreaders and some are not. My guess the stylists were not superspreaders.
But obviously wearing masks is a good thing, I just wouldn't count on masks preventing all the transmission. Especially homemade kind of masks.

cayugafalls

(5,641 posts)
6. Yes, viral load plus time has a lot to do with it.
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 07:13 PM
Jul 2020

People forget that it can get in the eyes as well.

We wear a homemade kind of mask with 4 layers plus an added filter in a pocket. We also have some N95 mask and goggles for times when we need extra protection for longer duration exposures. But we only have a couple of those so they are for emergency use only.

We use the mantra MDW, Mask, Distance, Wash and so far we are OK. Hopefully it will take us past this event into the next. We shall see.

Stay Safe.

cayugafalls

(5,641 posts)
5. But pence just told us to not listen to the CDC.
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 07:08 PM
Jul 2020

Really, he did...sure, it wasn't about masks, but school reopening, but it makes no difference. They have marginalized and demonized the CDC, much the same as they have the liberal left.

Trumps maladministration is a criminal enterprise bent on the destruction of the country.

wiggs

(7,814 posts)
7. I read the report. While I think face coverings are important and I use them whenever out, this
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 07:54 PM
Jul 2020

article reads to me like a PR piece...promoting going back to work while wearing masks. Wear masks and it's all good!

No mention of cases where masks were worn but there were still transmissions. Only half the contacts were tested. No mention that individual health status should guide decisions about whether to go out at all or that the Texas Medical Association deems going to a salon on par with playing basketball, in terms of risk (moderate to high risk)...even assuming safety protocols are in place. No mention of type of salon ventilation...were window and doors all open? They took this one example, which occurred a couple of months ago, and wrapped some official science-paper-y language around it, and issue it as a hopeful testimony for working during covid.

I'M FOR MASKS. I'm not for manipulated, incomplete information geared toward shaping behavior. Good for promotion of masks and more masks the better...but the starting point for understanding anything that comes from this administration is that they are corrupt, self-serving, and have downplayed the epidemic at every opportunity. They have lost trust and credibility and perhaps that shades my reading of the paper but regardless the paper is an incomplete picture and one example in a vacuum shouldn't be trotted out as any kind of evidence. At best it is one more clue among many strange aspects of this epidemic but it doesn't present itself that way.

We are left with trying to figure this out on our own, since public pronouncements are suspect, using many different resources and sources...a self-proclaimed science paper should have talked about the bigger picture and directed us to more information, but reads like their conclusions are all we need to know.

sorry, bit of a rant but I'm sooo tired of shaded, untrustworthy information from all kinds of govt sources.

wiggs

(7,814 posts)
9. I find the NYT summary of the article to be more well rounded...and
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 08:08 PM
Jul 2020

the NYT article wouldn't exist if it weren't for the original 'science' paper so I shouldn't be so harsh on the CDC paper, but still...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/health/coronavirus-hair-salon-masks.html

wiggs

(7,814 posts)
10. Also, this NYT opinion pieces provides better big picture perspective...
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 10:07 PM
Jul 2020
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/opinion/coronavirus-shutdown.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage#commentsContainer

I imagine the paper writers didn't write the summary in order to present a 'big picture' analysis, but if the CDC issues it by itself without putting it into perspective, that's the implication.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
8. The thing is that it really surprised the hell out of the CDC. They are used to very controlled
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 08:05 PM
Jul 2020

tests. I remember when the hair stylists opened back up of their own accord as they were broke. They required everyone wear masks and wait until called to come in. The heath people shut them down and expected everyone to get sick.

This is a novel virus, it does not follow the rules.

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