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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNate Silver just destroyed the credibility of Gravis Marketing's polls for OAN
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Not for OAN
FL: Biden +10
MN: Biden +16
For OAN
NC: Trump +3
GA: Trump +3
AZ: Trump +4
I know it's just 5 polls. But the three polls for OAN are literally some of Trump's best polls during this time period and the two non-OAN polls are literally some of his worst polls. The sponsor shouldn't really have an effect on poll results like that.
Baitball Blogger
(46,743 posts)There are very devious political-social networks in the burb.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)Amishman
(5,557 posts)Rasmussen has their methods, and they consistently skew right. Its actually not a bad poll if you take their bias into account.
This is flat out data manipulation to order. Worthless.
Doodley
(9,095 posts)If the client is pro-Trump, they give Trump really good figures. If it isn't for a pro-Trump client, Biden does well.
DemInBuckhead
(111 posts)This "pollster" was regularly posting bogus polls. There was a great summary that grantcart wrote after the election in 2012.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10021750305
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Any scrutiny of what OAN reports will prove bogus. Good, of course, that 538 is reporting on it for people unfamiliar with what OAN pushes.
LonePirate
(13,426 posts)The non-OAN polls could be too blue while the OAN polls could be too red. In short, dont trust Gravis polls.
Music Man
(1,184 posts)Doesn't it boggle the mind that OAN is for people who find Fox News not conservative enough? Jesus.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,492 posts)Discredit, maybe - - but only in the eyes of a few on our side of the political fence that happen to read it.
Republicans live in their own isolated information bubble and nothing will destroy it short of a collapse of the assets of a boatload of RW billionaires controlling RW social and public media and think tanks.
They create their own reality.
KY
BGBD
(3,282 posts)All Nate did was sort and post the results, Gravis destroyed themselves by releasing those garbage OANN polls.
Pretty clear what is happening. Polling is expensive and Gravis needs to make money while the iron is hot during an election year and OANN is tossing around Putins money to anyone who is willing to put their name on some fake polls.
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)Points right back to what they did in 2016 to lower the poll average and make it look close enough to steal.
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)They'll be getting banned on 538 soon if he can prove it.